Magox Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Let's take a look at Miami, Florida the "epicenter" of the COVID-19 world, according to very credible MSM journalists. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 They are suppressing the studies that show herd immunity is nowhere near 80% infected. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Perfectly played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 I'm too caught up in #TreWatch to look deeper but omg if this accurate... .. .. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Big Blitz said: I'm too caught up in #TreWatch to look deeper but omg if this accurate... .. .. I've brought this up a number of times. I honestly believe that a significant percentage of the people who have died "because of COVID" either died not because of COVID or were within weeks of dying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Thank you Trump voters - this Tweets all on you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Magox said: I've brought this up a number of times. I honestly believe that a significant percentage of the people who have died "because of COVID" either died not because of COVID or were within weeks of dying. ...the initial Covid-19 Relief Package included billions is hospital aid funding to be distributed through the Medicare vehicle.....and there was money to be made as relief provided $39,000 for Covid-19 cases versus normal $13,000 reimbursement......so everything was rubber stamped "Covid-19"......and I thought I read that 40+% of Covid-19 cases resulted from pre-existing conditions, hence the more susceptible weaker populous......but why cloud the issue with FACTS?.....better yet are published reports about folks who signed up to be tested, waited in line for hours only to finally give up and go home UNTESTED....followed by a letter in the mail stating "tested positive"......how "convenient"..... Edited August 6, 2020 by OldTimeAFLGuy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, BillStime said: Thank you Trump voters - this Tweets all on you! Actually there are only 159k deaths. You foolish point is foolish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, fansince88 said: Actually there are only 159k deaths. You foolish point is foolish. ....BIG TIME OUT.......we need to confer with the "PPP Statistical Covid-19 Expert" known as "SoTier" for REAL TIME facts and figures....he's as legendary on the football side...TBD HOF nominee..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....BIG TIME OUT.......we need to confer with the "PPP Statistical Covid-19 Expert" known as "SoTier" for REAL TIME facts and figures....he's as legendary on the football side...TBD HOF nominee..... Yes. But Im willing to bet it is closer to 159k them 1 million according to billstime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 47 minutes ago, BillStime said: Key word "model" . In other words fantasy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, fansince88 said: Yes. But Im willing to bet it is closer to 159k them 1 million according to billstime ...with SO MANY FACTUAL experts here, I tend to get confused.....probably a senior moment.....billstime=Q Baby....... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 (edited) Fancy that! Fake news - we know Edited August 6, 2020 by BillStime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Deaths haven’t been rising over past couple days Week over week. Probably either at the top or really close. This also shows that we would make new lows in beginning of November, I have it pegged end of September/beginning October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 https://www.kctv5.com/coronavirus/kansas-counties-with-mask-mandate-show-steep-covid-19-drop/article_3c413006-9f8b-5eb6-9bd6-d088976180a4.html It's about the masks, stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 13 hours ago, Magox said: I've brought this up a number of times. I honestly believe that a significant percentage of the people who have died "because of COVID" either died not because of COVID or were within weeks of dying. And how do you then explain the spike in deaths compared to the average expected? https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, shoshin said: And how do you then explain the spike in deaths compared to the average expected? https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm There you go again. No ability to critically think for yourself. Despite all the evidence that we know that the average age of the person who dies is 81 years old with 2.7 comorbidities and a significant percentage of them in nursing homes (which the average time of stay is 5 months) and reports that Kerpen brought up from CDC. You still defy logic. It's a problem of yours. Now to address what you posted. I already had posted about this, clearly it was something that went over your head. What did it say on YOUR chart? (All causes) Right? What have we been talking about the lock downs for months? Have we been talking about other deleterious effects and causes of deaths due to the lock downs? Now for my chart, Right in that very same section - Look at all the deaths EXCLUDING COVID-19. Look at the total number of deaths in each of those states, many of them have way more than double the amount of deaths that AREN'T related to COVID. The Red is the expected amount of deaths, the grey are all the excess deaths that are NONCOVID related. And that is just information that CDC has collected, most of us with any ability to critically think for ourselves knows that number is much higher than what they have gathered. Edited August 7, 2020 by Magox 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Magox said: There you go again. No ability to critically think for yourself. Despite all the evidence that we know that the average age of the person who dies is 81 years old with 2.7 comorbidities and a significant percentage of them in nursing homes (which the average time of stay is 5 months) and reports that Kerpen brought up from CDC. You still defy logic. It's a problem of yours. Now to address what you posted. I already posted about this, clearly it was something that you went over your head. What did it say on YOUR chart? (All causes) Right? What have we been talking about the lock downs for months? Have we been talking about other deleterious effects and causes of deaths due to the lock downs? Now for my chart, Right in that very same section - Look at all the deaths EXCLUDING COVID-19. Look at the total number of deaths in each of those states, many of them have way more than double the amount of deaths that AREN'T related to COVID. The Red is the expected amount of deaths, the grey are all the excess deaths that are NONCOVID related. And that is just information that CDC has collected, most of us with any ability to critically think for ourselves knows that number is much higher than what they have gathered. Cool chart. On my phone but I’ll check it out later. I quote the 2-3 comorbidity thing all the time. Of course Covid is killing at risk folk more. And it’s having a likely worse effect through the lockdowns and general fear. You keep arguing without me like I don’t believe that just because I’ve proven you wrong on a few posts. I think the lock down and fear are much worse than the virus. Much worse. You are still defaulting to douche way of having a discussion for some reason. Edited August 7, 2020 by shoshin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 On 8/6/2020 at 6:38 AM, LB3 said: You thought Russian collusion was real. ?♂️ When a post is about one thing and the reply is about something else..... Links between Trump associates and Russian officialshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates_and_Russian_officials I know. It's all a series of coincidences. Right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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