Warren Zevon Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 lolwut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, Warren Zevon said: lolwut I know this concept is hard for you ghouls to comprehend, but lets examine what the term ICU means: Quote ICU: Intensive care unit. The intensive care unit is a designated area of a hospital facility that is dedicated to the care of patients who are seriously ill. I heard his press conference and there are some smaller hospitals that are using ICU beds for regular hospital bed usage. If you want to get an accurate true ICU count, then you count those that are using the beds for it's intended purpose. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Something you'd never know about from watching the "news" is that deaths from the virus have been dropping dramatically for the last two months. Instead all they serve up is shrieking about a "spike in cases". 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Magox said: I heard his press conference and there are some smaller hospitals that are using ICU beds for regular hospital bed usage. Interesting... A hospital loses money if they have non-ICU patients in ICU beds (At least the ones in Chautauqua county do/would...) Did he give any specific examples of this happening? 4 minutes ago, B-Man said: Something you'd never know about from watching the "news" is that deaths from the virus have been dropping dramatically for the last two months. Instead all they serve up is shrieking about a "spike in cases". The news this morning reported deaths dropping drastically Boy Man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Warren Zevon said: The news this morning reported deaths dropping drastically Boy Man. A truly sad day in your and fellow travelers' houses, isn't it? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Warren Zevon said: Interesting... A hospital loses money if they have non-ICU patients in ICU beds (At least the ones in Chautauqua county do/would...) Did he give any specific examples of this happening? No, no specifics. Does that mean he is lying? And What is wrong with what he said? I don't need a Panic Porn interpretation of his words, I just need for you view the words as they are and tell me what part of what was said that is objectionable? Quote He doesn't want hospitals to report the number of patients in ICU beds. He only wants hospitals to report number of patients in ICU beds who require an “intensive level of care.” The reasoning he provided was sound. I don't understand why you libs aren't praising this guy. He did much better than Cuomo, less than 3200 total deaths in Florida and near 32,000. That is 1000% higher for CUomo and New York and they both have the same population. You should be "liking" all my factual data posts of how Florida and Texas have led the way in how the states have handled it. But for some morbid reason you guys seem upset that Texas and Florida have way over performed the states controlled by Democrats. 3 minutes ago, GG said: A truly sad day in your and fellow travelers' houses, isn't it? Like I said yesterday and today, they are ghouls. They root for death provided it's in Republican controlled areas. 8 minutes ago, Warren Zevon said: Interesting... A hospital loses money if they have non-ICU patients in ICU beds (At least the ones in Chautauqua county do/would...) Did he give any specific examples of this happening? The news this morning reported deaths dropping drastically Boy Man. You sound bothered by this positive trend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Magox said: No, no specifics. Does that mean he is lying? The reasoning he provided was sound. It would be sound if there was a specific example of this happening. The only reason non ICU patients would be in an ICU bed is because the non ICU beds in the hospital are full. It's a brutal quote and a terrible soundbite for anyone who still has respect for how Florida is going about handling the crisis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Warren Zevon said: It would be sound if there was a specific example of this happening. The only reason non ICU patients would be in an ICU bed is because the non ICU beds in the hospital are full. Correct....That goes without saying. So what's the problem? We know that statewide there aren't hospital bed shortages based off the statewide data. If there are a few hospitals that are making due by doing this, what's the big deal? Why are you so offended by some incredibly small subset of occurrences? Don't answer that, we know why. Edited June 22, 2020 by Magox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Magox said: We know that statewide there aren't hospital bed shortages based off the statewide data. That's why the quote is interesting. Curious as to the specifics. Not offended Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Just now, Warren Zevon said: That's why the quote is interesting. Curious as to the specifics. Not offended Because he's defensive and understandably so. He has protected his constituents much more so than Cuomo, yet Cuomo gets all the adoring coverage and softball questions and when he does get a tough question, he deflects and there is little to no followup. Yet DeSantis gets hammered not just from the South Florida, Orlando and Tampa newspapers but nationally. And it's not warranted. So yeah, he's wanting reporting to report things factually but also in a way that is more favorable towards him. It's not as if that he is requesting for something to be reported with dishonest motives. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Magox said: Because he's defensive and understandably so. He has protected his constituents much more so than Cuomo, yet Cuomo gets all the adoring coverage and softball questions and when he does get a tough question, he deflects and there is little to no followup. Yet DeSantis gets hammered not just from the South Florida, Orlando and Tampa newspapers but nationally. And it's not warranted. So yeah, he's wanting reporting to report things factually but also in a way that is more favorable towards him. It's not as if that he is requesting for something to be reported with dishonest motives. Whatever. He's a politician - criticism comes with the territory from both sides. It was a terrible quote with little nuance (especially given this fact you referenced - We know that statewide there aren't hospital bed shortages based off the statewide data - and if there is not a specific hospital doing this - yes - he is requesting something with dishonest motives. Also ***** Cuomo. Not sure why you think I love him? Edited June 22, 2020 by Warren Zevon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Warren Zevon said: Whatever. He's a politician - criticism comes with the territory from both sides. It was a terrible quote with little nuance (especially given this fact you referenced - We know that statewide there aren't hospital bed shortages based off the statewide data - and if there is not a specific hospital doing this - yes - he is requesting something with dishonest motives. Also ***** Cuomo. Not sure why you think I love him? Your logic is lacking 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 DeSantis is doing a hell of a job here, I can't imagine what this place would look like now if that meth head got elected instead 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Just now, bilzfancy said: DeSantis is doing a hell of a job here, I can't imagine what this place would look like now if that meth head got elected instead Probably the same since the #FakeVirus doesn't give much of a ***** about politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 15 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: So...the most searched news item shows up at the top of a Google search? You don't say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, Magox said: Because he's defensive and understandably so. He has protected his constituents much more so than Cuomo, yet Cuomo gets all the adoring coverage and softball questions and when he does get a tough question, he deflects and there is little to no followup. Yet DeSantis gets hammered not just from the South Florida, Orlando and Tampa newspapers but nationally. And it's not warranted. So yeah, he's wanting reporting to report things factually but also in a way that is more favorable towards him. It's not as if that he is requesting for something to be reported with dishonest motives. Agreed. Why isn't Newsome getting grilled despite a similar case rate and death rate to Florida and Texas? NYC obviously was the perfect breeding ground for the virus in March and April but Cuomo's decision to keep the subway system open and the confusing nursing home policy should be scrutinized. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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