Teddy KGB Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Just now, Tiberius said: What makes you think you speak for all Jews? One thing is for sure. You don’t. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 21, 2019 Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 Just now, Teddy KGB said: One thing is for sure. You don’t. Yes, I agree. Was that suppose to be an insult? You are reinforcing my point, thanks. Tell that to goat f-er Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Yes, I agree. Was that suppose to be an insult? You are reinforcing my point, thanks. Tell that to goat f-er Shut up you meshugannah. I’m regretting taking you off ignore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Ok Tibs, you don't want to admit you agree with the squad, but you have to admit your title is misleading and wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, bilzfancy said: Then that's what the tittle should be, not all Jews are disloyal agreed..good point. But do you think Jews that vote Democratic are disloyal? 16 minutes ago, GG said: Because those are not well worn tropes. You can certainly imply a racist meaning to them, but it's not something that's been used for years, decades and centuries, like Omar's comments. on that we will again strongly disagree.." go back where you came from" as been viewed as racist for decades, if not centuries 13 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Correct maybe you can change the title for him ? That’s not what it says. This title is another racist boogeyman. as said above, good point and i agree Edited August 21, 2019 by plenzmd1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 14 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: I was told by an infinite amount of posters on here that " go back to where you came from" was not inherently racist as Trump never mentioned race..and just cause most of the free world associated that phrase , or trope as you may, as racist..it did not matter the exact words did not mention race. So just to be clear, when Trump uses words like "invasion" "breeding" "infestation" and "go back where you came from" those are not racist sayings because they don't mention race specifically,...but when someone outside of Trump uses phrases and words consistently viewed as racist, they need to be held accountable and are in fact racist or anti semitic. Got it!!! Wait, hold on just a moment. "Just because most of the free world associated that phrase...as racist"?. Where did you come up with that statistic? I'd bet you "most of the free world" was not aware of what was said, what the subject matter was, or the context in which it was said. You're projecting here, especially given the fact that the typical Trump supporter (60+ million strong) likely disagrees with you. Now if by most of the free world you mean dems/libs/trump haters, that's a diff story, but they stand to gain politically and financially by feeling that way. Contrast that with her comments about Allah and Israel and it's not even close. I don't think people of any persuasion would perceive her comments as a call to action for the average Israel to vote their leaders from office as a form of peaceful protest. And I think you'd agree with me if you weren't digging in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 17 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Tell that to goat f-er ?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: agreed..good point. But do you think Jews that vote Democratic are disloyal? on that we will again strongly disagree.." go back where you came from" as been viewed as racist for decades, if not centuries What? Please don't redefine racism to include every slight and insult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Tibs' hatred for Jews is really something, huh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 30 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: Its her God....and she feels Israel the country does evil things against her country and her people..and that is anti Semitic how ??? Beside the fact i cannot believe all the folks anti identity politics here are okay with it when Trump tells everyone how they should feel/vote based on their race/religion..no outcry from anyone on that? Look, I am fully aware that not every practitioner of Islam wants to see Israel eradicated. There are moderates, centrists and extremists in every religion. The point is the perception of racism/anti-Semitism. I'll repeat, invoking the name of Allah with respect to Isreal, and the call for "awakening the people" is what it is. I don't make the rules, it just is what it is. Referencing benjamins and the Jewish people is as well. But yes, I could be wrong. Maybe she meant Benjamin Netanyahu and Ben Shapiro. Maybe she has a crush on them. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Wait, hold on just a moment. "Just because most of the free world associated that phrase...as racist"?. Where did you come up with that statistic? I'd bet you "most of the free world" was not aware of what was said, what the subject matter was, or the context in which it was said. You're projecting here, especially given the fact that the typical Trump supporter (60+ million strong) likely disagrees with you. Now if by most of the free world you mean dems/libs/trump haters, that's a diff story, but they stand to gain politically and financially by feeling that way. Contrast that with her comments about Allah and Israel and it's not even close. I don't think people of any persuasion would perceive her comments as a call to action for the average Israel to vote their leaders from office as a form of peaceful protest. And I think you'd agree with me if you weren't digging in here. I am digging in to the fact that Trump supporters want things one way when Trump says them, and another when a Dem/Non Trump supporter says them. That phrase has long been deemed offensive.Or I could argue where is eveidence that "all for the Benjamins" when discussing a US politicains motivation is anti-semtic? Or, i could argue the fact that how in the world is her saying a US politician was doing something for money in contrast to what you said in the boded? BTW, I thank you for the compliment in the italicized? Edited August 21, 2019 by plenzmd1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: I am digging in to the fact that Trump supporters want things one way when Trump says them, and another when a Dem/Non Trump supporter says them. That phrase has long been deemed offensive.Or I could argue where is eveidence that "all for the Benjamins" when discussing a US politicains motivation is anti-semtic? Or, i could argue the fact that how in the world is her saying a US politician was doing something for money in contrast to what you said in the boded? BTW, I thank you for the compliment in the italicized? Yeah I have no idea how I used italics on that v what I meant to. Let's go with I was complimenting you! You also moved the goal posts Plenz. I agree that some would find what Trump said offensive. That's different than "racist". When Obama insulted middle America with his "angry folks clinging to guns and religion', I thought it insensitive and racially charged. Divisive and hurtful. When he said "you you you didn't build that, someone else did" I found it offensive (and simpleminded) but not racially charged. We apparently cannot agree on the anti-Semitic nature of the Congresswoman. I don't see it as even close. Therefore, I take back my compliment and think you are a stupidhead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Yeah I have no idea how I used italics on that v what I meant to. Let's go with I was complimenting you! You also moved the goal posts Plenz. I agree that some would find what Trump said offensive. That's different than "racist". When Obama insulted middle America with his "angry folks clinging to guns and religion', I thought it insensitive and racially charged. Divisive and hurtful. When he said "you you you didn't build that, someone else did" I found it offensive (and simpleminded) but not racially charged. We apparently cannot agree on the anti-Semitic nature of the Congresswoman. I don't see it as even close. Therefore, I take back my compliment and think you are a stupidhead. I agree the Benjamin comment was anti-Semitic..no doubt , 100% agreed. But I think you would have a good chuckle and understand my point if we went back in the thread when the "go back to where you came from" brouhaha was located..and it was stated over and over again "forget what some people may take it as, one must take the words literally and that it in and of itself was not racist statement. Employing that same standard ,hers in and of itself it was not an anti Semitic statement. I guess our real disagreement is in the phrases "notoriety" as racist/bigoted statements. Old argument i know..kinda liket is it bigoted to say an African American is articulate/educated/smart etc. and in terms of the stupidhead comment..., I italicized this in your original post Quote typical Trump supporter (60+ million strong) likely disagrees with you and that I took as a compliment!!!!? Edited August 21, 2019 by plenzmd1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 56 minutes ago, Golden Goat said: My expectation is that he'll delete this thread. It's not going well for him. ....would be shocking, right?.......SMH........... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 44 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: agreed..good point. But do you think Jews that vote Democratic are disloyal? Well I think it’s better to call them disloyal than what they really are. ***** idiots!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, bilzfancy said: Then that's what the tittle should be, not all Jews are disloyal ...true.....but.....going back, Obama was a strong ally/supporter of Israel, right (COUGH)?......and why did they let him get away with it?.......blind loyalty to Dems?......and despite it, look at the line up of Schumer, Schiff, Nadless, Feinstein, etc ignore the prolonged slap in the face to their heritage, preferring to solely focus on the "people's business (COUGH)" of attacking Trump, adding to the foment and vitriol nationwide...."shalom my tuchus"......FULL DISCLOSURE; the Jewish contingent in my extended family taught me the "good stuff"..... Edited August 21, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 19 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Well I think it’s better to call them disloyal than what they really are. ***** idiots!! takes one to know one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Did you just call me a ***** idiot? ☺️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Chef Jim said: Did you just call me a ***** idiot? ☺️ well..to make it easier could have just called you a Trump voter..same difference 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: well..to make it easier could have just called you a Trump voter..same difference 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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