B-Man Posted September 4, 2019 Posted September 4, 2019 HONG KONG MOVES FROM PROTESTS TO CIVIL UNREST AS CHINA THREATENS INTERVENTION: Freelance correspondent Michael Yon reports that one can feel the collective political and emotional change on Hong Kong’s streets — change that may have dire consequences. . 2
B-Man Posted September 4, 2019 Posted September 4, 2019 Hong Kong Caves to Protestors’ Original Demand: So Now What? Influence Power: How China Covertly Operates in the U.S. 2 2
GG Posted September 4, 2019 Posted September 4, 2019 On 9/4/2019 at 3:28 PM, B-Man said: Expand Looks like the left doesn't have a monopoly on idiotic opinions. 1
3rdnlng Posted September 4, 2019 Author Posted September 4, 2019 On 9/4/2019 at 5:59 PM, Deranged Rhino said: Expand You're damn straight. Well, correct at least.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 4, 2019 Posted September 4, 2019 On 9/4/2019 at 4:07 PM, GG said: Looks like the left doesn't have a monopoly on idiotic opinions. Expand Interested to see why you find that opinion idiotic.
GG Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 On 9/4/2019 at 11:38 PM, Joe in Winslow said: Interested to see why you find that opinion idiotic. Expand Do you think it's better for the Chinese princelings to stay at home and continue to be indoctrinated by Communists or be fully exposed to Western culture during their formative years as adults? What does taxpayer support of US colleges have to do with it? Foreign students pay full freight and then some. That actually helps the colleges' finances and allows for more financial aid to the needy students. 1
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 On 9/5/2019 at 12:35 AM, GG said: Do you think it's better for the Chinese princelings to stay at home and continue to be indoctrinated by Communists or be fully exposed to Western culture during their formative years as adults? Expand I kind of thought that would be your answer. Would you say their exposure to western culture has changed China at all?
3rdnlng Posted September 5, 2019 Author Posted September 5, 2019 On 9/5/2019 at 12:41 AM, Joe in Winslow said: I kind of thought that would be your answer. Would you say their exposure to western culture has changed China at all? Expand Do you think the exposure to western culture has changed the Chinese in Hong Kong? It's a process.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 On 9/5/2019 at 12:49 AM, 3rdnlng said: Do you think the exposure to western culture has changed the Chinese in Hong Kong? It's a process. Expand You realize, of course, than Hong Kong lived under UK rule for a century, yes? We're educating the children of our rival.
3rdnlng Posted September 5, 2019 Author Posted September 5, 2019 On 9/5/2019 at 12:51 AM, Joe in Winslow said: You realize, of course, than Hong Kong lived under UK rule for a century, yes? We're educating the children of our rival. Expand That was my point. They have been exposed to western culture and prefer it over the Chinese culture.
meazza Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 On 9/5/2019 at 12:51 AM, Joe in Winslow said: You realize, of course, than Hong Kong lived under UK rule for a century, yes? We're educating the children of our rival. Expand There are plenty of North American students that study in China.
Joe Miner Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 So we don't like the Chinese because of their form of government but we don't want them to experience what we consider to be a better form of government? They'll just figure out we have a better system over here on their own? And it will be easy for them when that better system won't even let them in the country to understand why it's better. Or we'll have to go in and overthrow their government and install 1 we like? Seems like you're advocating for war against China.
B-Man Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 'Half an Olive Branch' Fails to Pacify Hong Kong Protesters... .
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 On 9/5/2019 at 1:40 PM, B-Man said: 'Half an Olive Branch' Fails to Pacify Hong Kong Protesters... . Expand Nice to see China back down, but it really isn't nearly enough. They should be able to pick their own leaders
B-Man Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 LIKE A SCENE FROM A 21ST CENTURY CASABLANCA: Defiant Hong Kong Children Drown Out Chinese Anthem With Stirring ‘Les Mis’ Song. Except that Hollywood wouldn’t make a movie about this, because Hollywood is in the pocket of the Chinese government. A longer clip since removed from YouTube showed the students singing the song twice, at the start of the ceremony and as the teachers filed out at the end. The song has become an anthem for protesters in the city seeking greater democracy. 1 1
Prickly Pete Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) On 9/5/2019 at 2:32 AM, meazza said: There are plenty of North American students that study in China. Expand https://www.ft.com/content/6665e98c-ece6-11e8-8180-9cf212677a57 At 360,000, there are now 30 times as many Chinese students in the US as there are US students in China And I have to wonder how many of the American students are of Chinese descent, and might be getting an indoctrination from the Communist government, as much as a regular "studying abroad" experience. I can't find much information about American students accused of spying in China (maybe it's suppressed?), but there are LOTS of cases involving Chinese students spying in the US. But then there are 30 times more Chinese students here (and they are surely granted more freedom here in the US, than American students are in China), so maybe that's why there are so many more spying incidents? I guess it's all the same then, huh Meazza? ***** off. Edited September 6, 2019 by OJ Tom
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 On 9/6/2019 at 3:58 AM, OJ Tom said: https://www.ft.com/content/6665e98c-ece6-11e8-8180-9cf212677a57 At 360,000, there are now 30 times as many Chinese students in the US as there are US students in China And I have to wonder how many of the American students are of Chinese descent, and might be getting an indoctrination from the Communist government, as much as a regular "studying abroad" experience. I can't find much information about American students accused of spying in China (maybe it's suppressed?), but there are LOTS of cases involving Chinese students spying in the US. But then there are 30 times more Chinese students here (and they are surely granted more freedom here in the US, than American students are in China), so maybe that's why there are so many more spying incidents? I guess it's all the same then, huh Meazza? ***** off. Expand This warranted an empty headed “***** off”? Lay out your policy prescription.
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