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1 hour ago, BillsFanCRNA said:

Yeah. Joey Gatewood was the other QB. He left, presumably due to playing time.

 

 

Ah okay, well that makes sense then.  

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On ‎11‎/‎24‎/‎2019 at 10:45 PM, YoloinOhio said:

Auburn offense has no pulse. Bama will win. 

Auburn has a very strong defense, especially up front.  I like Derrick Brown coming out of college more than I liked Dareus. He is a complete monster.

 

Auburn, with their exceptional lines, would dominate any other conference despite the inexperienced quarterback. How many teams in the Big 10 do you think are better than Auburn? I would say probably 1.

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2 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

Auburn has a very strong defense, especially up front.  I like Derrick Brown coming out of college more than I liked Dareus. He is a complete monster.

 

Auburn, with their exceptional lines, would dominate any other conference despite the inexperienced quarterback. How many teams in the Big 10 do you think are better than Auburn? I would say probably 1.

 

 

Michigan is better than Auburn imo & Whisky & Minn are close.  

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13 minutes ago, Gordio said:

 

 

Michigan is better than Auburn imo & Whisky & Minn are close.  

I respectfully disagree and also think that Auburn would not be a pushover for Ohio State. Auburn can pretty much play with anyone imo.

 

The way to beat them (again, imo) is to contain their young qb and force mistakes. Their DL keeps them in games.

 

Alabama's defense is banged up. With Tua hurt, the main advantage the Tide has over Auburn is Nick Saban (OK, the receivers too lol).  I hope it is enough.

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46 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

I respectfully disagree and also think that Auburn would not be a pushover for Ohio State. Auburn can pretty much play with anyone imo.

 

The way to beat them (again, imo) is to contain their young qb and force mistakes. Their DL keeps them in games.

 

Alabama's defense is banged up. With Tua hurt, the main advantage the Tide has over Auburn is Nick Saban (OK, the receivers too lol).  I hope it is enough.

Nix stinks

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2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Nix stinks

I'm not a fan of his nor Malzahn  but the team is always talented, and Derrick Brown is a freak.

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3 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

I'm not a fan of his nor Malzahn  but the team is always talented, and Derrick Brown is a freak.

Brown is a freak but the reason Auburn is just an okay football team is Nix. They are going to have 1 win against a ranked team and that’s an overrated Oregon team. They are going to have 4 losses by this weekend and barely be ranked themselves. 
 

The SEC just doesn’t have the depth that it did a decade ago. There are still really good teams in LSU, Alabama, UGA and to a lesser extent Florida. That really isn’t that different though from the Big 10 for example with OSU, PSU, Michigan, Minnesota and Wisconsin. In the past the SEC was given far more credit because of the depth. As we sit today the Big 10 has 5 of the top 13 and the SEC has 4.


They just aren’t going to get the benefit of the doubt like in past years because the gap has closed. I really believe that a 1 loss OU or 1 loss Utah or 1 loss Minnesota is going to jump into the top 4.  I think, assuming wins this week, Clemson, Ohio State and LSU are in the playoff regardless of the conference championship games. I believe Alabama is the 4th best team but don’t see how their spot can be justified over a 1 loss conference champ that’s going to have a better resume. 

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9 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Brown is a freak but the reason Auburn is just an okay football team is Nix. They are going to have 1 win against a ranked team and that’s an overrated Oregon team. They are going to have 4 losses by this weekend and barely be ranked themselves. 
 

The SEC just doesn’t have the depth that it did a decade ago. There are still really good teams in LSU, Alabama, UGA and to a lesser extent Florida. That really isn’t that different though from the Big 10 for example with OSU, PSU, Michigan, Minnesota and Wisconsin. In the past the SEC was given far more credit because of the depth. As we sit today the Big 10 has 5 of the top 13 and the SEC has 4.


They just aren’t going to get the benefit of the doubt like in past years because the gap has closed. I really believe that a 1 loss OU or 1 loss Utah or 1 loss Minnesota is going to jump into the top 4.  I think, assuming wins this week, Clemson, Ohio State and LSU are in the playoff regardless of the conference championship games. I believe Alabama is the 4th best team but don’t see how their spot can be justified over a 1 loss conference champ that’s going to have a better resume. 

You forgot Texas A&M. If you have time, look at their schedule. The Aggies are a dangerous team and imo they would feast on the likes of Minnesota, and virtually every team in the Big 12, including Oklahoma.

I do agree that the Big 10 is making progress on the SEC (although I'm surprised at how Wisconsin fell) but I still think that they have a considerable amount of ground to make up.

 

Jmo, and a fun topic I dare say! :)

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5 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

You forgot Texas A&M. If you have time, look at their schedule. The Aggies are a dangerous team and imo they would feast on the likes of Minnesota, and virtually every team in the Big 12, including Oklahoma.

I do agree that the Big 10 is making progress on the SEC (although I'm surprised at how Wisconsin fell) but I still think that they have a considerable amount of ground to make up.

 

Jmo, and a fun topic I dare say! :)

Texas A&M is like Auburn this year. They are fine when they play bad teams. They haven’t beaten a ranked team. Their best win is a 1 score win at Ole Miss. Minnesota on the other hand has a top 10 win and their only loss is a 4 point road loss in one of the toughest places to play. On a neutral field tomorrow they are a double digit favorite over A&M.
 

That’s the problem that the SEC faces in getting a 2nd team in. There just isn’t enough quality from the rest of the league. I believe that Alabama is the 4th best team in the country today. It’s just not going to be easy for them to get in with their best wins coming against an unranked A&M and an Auburn team that may be unranked after the game.  
 

It depends if the committee wants best team or best resume. If OU, for example, wins out it will be impossible to deny them that spot (assuming LSU, OSU and Clemson have locked up the other spots). They will have a bunch of good wins and a conference championship. 

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4 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Texas A&M is like Auburn this year. They are fine when they play bad teams. They haven’t beaten a ranked team. Their best win is a 1 score win at Ole Miss. Minnesota on the other hand has a top 10 win and their only loss is a 4 point road loss in one of the toughest places to play. On a neutral field tomorrow they are a double digit favorite over A&M.
 

That’s the problem that the SEC faces in getting a 2nd team in. There just isn’t enough quality from the rest of the league. I believe that Alabama is the 4th best team in the country today. It’s just not going to be easy for them to get in with their best wins combining against an unranked A&M and an Auburn team that may be unranked after the game.  
 

It depends if the committee wants best team or best resume. If OU, for example, wins out it will be impossible to deny them that spot (assuming LSU, OSU and Clemson have locked up the other spots). They will have a bunch of good wins and a conference championship. 

 

I think that Georgia, A&M or Auburn would destroy Minnesota. 

 

Once again, jmo.

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17 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

 

I think that Georgia, A&M or Auburn would destroy Minnesota. 

 

Once again, jmo.

I wasn’t a Minnesota believer until I saw them really beat up Penn State. They didn’t steal that game. They were the better team. There only loss is a 4 point loss at a top 20 Iowa. Obviously we are going to learn a lot about the Gophers over the next 2 weeks with Wisconsin and then potentially Ohio State. They aren’t getting in with 2 losses but they control their own destiny at this point. I’d rank those teams:

UGA

Minnesota

Auburn

A&M

 

Alabama needs a statement win this week (which I think is possible if not likely). They have to win by 4 plus scores. If they do and LSU beats UGA I think they still have a shot at the 4th spot. I know those guys today think that it will be Utah or OU but those teams still have work to do. OU has to beat 2 ranked teams still. Utah will still have to beat Oregon (even though they look to be just okay too).  

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On 11/24/2019 at 7:52 AM, YoloinOhio said:

Why don’t you think Utah gets in if they win the PAC 12? They’ve looked great.

Oregon's loss hurts PAC 12's already middling reputation.  Plus, in the current rankings Alabama is 5th so as long as they take care of business against Auburn why wouldn't they slide up to four after the SEC championship game?

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1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

Oregon's loss hurts PAC 12's already middling reputation.  Plus, in the current rankings Alabama is 5th so as long as they take care of business against Auburn why wouldn't they slide up to four after the SEC championship game?

Because they don’t play in the SEC championship, and we are talking about Utah being a 1 loss pac 12 conference champion. Even if bama wins this weekend, that would be their only win over a top 25 team, and that win is over a 4-loss auburn team. They only have one more game to prove they belong in the top 4 With no resume, no championship, and no QB. The committee seems very focused on quality wins. If they beat Auburn 55-0 or something with their backup QB, they present a case.  Just because they are at 5 today doesn’t mean they will stay there, there are two weeks to go, one of which they don’t play. I do think the committee is trying to set them up to be considered at 4, by putting Auburn as high as 15 with 3 losses. And Utah  doesn’t have a strong resume at this point but they are strong statistically, especially their defense. And if they win out, will add a quality win. 

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1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

Because they don’t play in the SEC championship, and we are talking about Utah being a 1 loss pac 12 conference champion. Even if bama wins this weekend, that would be their only win over a top 25 team, and that win is over a 4-loss auburn team. They only have one more game to prove they belong in the top 4 With no resume, no championship, and no QB. The committee seems very focused on quality wins. If they beat Auburn 55-0 or something with their backup QB, they present a case.  Just because they are at 5 today doesn’t mean they will stay there, there are two weeks to go, one of which they don’t play. I do think the committee is trying to set them up to be considered at 4, by putting Auburn as high as 15 with 3 losses. And Utah  doesn’t have a strong resume at this point but they are strong statistically, especially their defense. And if they win out, will add a quality win. 

LOL.  Bama is already in unless they lose again. 

 

Bama

Ohio State assuming they win out

Clemson assuming the same

LSU if they win out but if they lose it will go to Georgia, Big 10 or PAC.  LSU would magically fall behind Bama if they lose.  Tua's injury casts a smidgen of doubt but I think the committee would still just give it to em.

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10 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

 

Alabama needs a statement win this week (which I think is possible if not likely). They have to win by 4 plus scores. If they do and LSU beats UGA I think they still have a shot at the 4th spot.

Kirby, I'm not sure why everybody thinks that this game will be so easy for Alabama. Just like I do with the Bills, I watch every play of every Bama game. They have a weakness this year and it is at nose. Gone are the days of Da'Ron Payne and Quinnen Williams. Saban defenses really need a strong nose, one who is also a penetrating pass rusher. This situation was made worse by the injuries to BOTH inside LBs who were lost for the year in camp (one was very good, the other great). The freshmen are studs but are still learning a very complicated system.

Also, it should not take 4 scores. Alabama is better than Utah. The Utah defense is supposedly good, right. Do ya think that Utah can cover the Bama receivers. Seriously Kirby? Oklahoma? They beat them with a much better quarterback than Hurts, and the Sooners have zero defense.

My point is that a decisive win should really get Alabama in, not 4 scores.

Hey, if these other teams are so wonderful, Ohio State Fans should WANT to play the Crimson Tide, no? ;)

 

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8 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

LOL.  Bama is already in unless they lose again. 

 

Bama

Ohio State assuming they win out

Clemson assuming the same

LSU if they win out but if they lose it will go to Georgia, Big 10 or PAC.  LSU would magically fall behind Bama if they lose.  Tua's injury casts a smidgen of doubt but I think the committee would still just give it to em.

they did drop Oregon to 14, and moved Baylor up to 9 - so that shows their opinion of those conference races.  I think if either Utah or Oklahoma win out and are a 1 loss conf champ they grab the 4th spot given the scenario above plays out. If both win, looks like they may give the big 12 the edge. But they’ve been harping on things like balance, defense, etc so that favors Utah over Oklahoma 

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1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said:

Kirby, I'm not sure why everybody thinks that this game will be so easy for Alabama. Just like I do with the Bills, I watch every play of every Bama game. They have a weakness this year and it is at nose. Gone are the days of Da'Ron Payne and Quinnen Williams. Saban defenses really need a strong nose, one who is also a penetrating pass rusher. This situation was made worse by the injuries to BOTH inside LBs who were lost for the year in camp (one was very good, the other great). The freshmen are studs but are still learning a very complicated system.

Also, it should not take 4 scores. Alabama is better than Utah. The Utah defense is supposedly good, right. Do ya think that Utah can cover the Bama receivers. Seriously Kirby? Oklahoma? They beat them with a much better quarterback than Hurts, and the Sooners have zero defense.

My point is that a decisive win should really get Alabama in, not 4 scores.

Hey, if these other teams are so wonderful, Ohio State Fans should WANT to play the Crimson Tide, no? ;)

 

Oh, I have no issue playing this Alabama team. I’ve been saying all year that they weren’t the same team. I predicted a double digit win by LSU and without that 85 yard TD with a minute to go it would have been. 
 

Now, I think that they are better than an average Auburn team. They need to win convincingly to have any shot. They don’t have any good wins and won’t play for a conference titles. When you put their resume side-by-side with OU, OU has the superior resume (assuming they win out). They will have beaten the team ranked 9 twice. They will have wins over a ranked Iowa State, a ranked Oklahoma State and a ranked, at the time UT. They will have a conference championship as well. It’s going to be tough, if not impossible, for Alabama with 1 ranked win (and Auburn may fall out of the rankings with a bad loss) and no conference championship. 

I don’t think that’s a controversial opinion at all. I’m fact, every expert on that show last night said that. Utah is the other team that has an argument. I just don’t see enough quality wins because the PAC isn’t very good. They have been really tough though. I think OU jumps them both with a win in Bedlam and conference championship win over Baylor.

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5 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Oh, I have no issue playing this Alabama team. I’ve been saying all year that they weren’t the same team. I predicted a double digit win by LSU and without that 85 yard TD with a minute to go it would have been. 
 

Now, I think that they are better than an average Auburn team. They need to win convincingly to have any shot. They don’t have any good wins and won’t play for a conference titles. When you put their resume side-by-side with OU, OU has the superior resume (assuming they win out). They will have beaten the team ranked 9 twice. They will have wins over a ranked Iowa State, a ranked Oklahoma State and a ranked, at the time UT. They will have a conference championship as well. It’s going to be tough, if not impossible, for Alabama with 1 ranked win (and Auburn may fall out of the rankings with a bad loss) and no conference championship. 

I don’t think that’s a controversial opinion at all. I’m fact, every expert on that show last night said that. Utah is the other team that has an argument. I just don’t see enough quality wins because the PAC isn’t very good. They have been really tough though. I think OU jumps them both with a win in Bedlam and conference championship win over Baylor.

Fans and especially announcers spend large portions of their lives dreaming of playoffs sans Alabama. It gives them a wider audience. Texas a 9th ranked team? We both know that they pretty much suck. I view them as comparable to Tennessee. I mean really. :rolleyes: In fact that entire conference pretty much sucks.

 

Again, injuries to key players (to include 2 top 10 freshmen and 2 ILBs) and the lack of a nose truly did hurt Alabama, let alone the loss of Tua. I'm the first to admit this. Do I think that under these conditions that they are as good as Ohio State? Nope. But they absolutely are better than anyone in the Big 12 or the PAC 12. Much better. :) Utah and Oklahoma combined could not stop the Tide's 4 great receivers and Auburn would destroy either of those teams.

 

Once again, jmo.

 

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2 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

Fans and especially announcers spend large portions of their lives dreaming of playoffs sans Alabama. It gives them a wider audience. Texas a 9th ranked team? We both know that they pretty much suck. I view them as comparable to Tennessee. I mean really. :rolleyes: In fact that entire conference pretty much sucks.

 

Again, injuries to key players (to include 2 top 10 freshmen and 2 ILBs) and the lack of a nose truly did hurt Alabama, let alone the loss of Tua. I'm the first to admit this. Do I think that under these conditions that they are as good as Ohio State? Nope. But they absolutely are better than anyone in the Big 12 or the PAC 12. Much better. :) Utah and Oklahoma combined could not stop the Tide's 4 great receivers and Auburn would destroy either of those teams.

 

Once again, jmo.

 

Baylor is 9. OU will have wins against Baylor, Baylor, Texas, Iowa State and Oklahoma State. That’s 5 ranked wins and a conference title. I don’t know how the committee can put in a team with 1 ranked win and no conference title? It just isn’t going to happen. I think Alabama would be OU. I think OU is more deserving of the spot. I guess it comes down to that (again that assumes 2 more ranked wins for OU). 
 

I haven’t seen enough of Utah. They play too late. Admittedly, I have a very low opinion of the PAC so I don’t make time for any of those teams. I saw them once and they lost. 
 

This just feels like the year that Bama is going to be out. It’s the perfect storm. They lost, at home, to the one elite opponent that they played. The next best team that they played (Auburn) was ranked 15 at the time. That’s a good win but it is not going to push them over the top IMO. 
 

It will all play out in the next few weeks too. There are a bunch of ranked vs. ranked matchups left. I doubt that it goes chalk all the way through.

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On 11/26/2019 at 1:47 PM, Gordio said:

 

 

Michigan is better than Auburn imo & Whisky & Minn are close.  

Michigan is not good- Big 10 order is OSU at the top and then in some order Minn//Wisc/Penn st

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Just now, Buffalo Timmy said:

Michigan is not good- Big 10 order is OSU at the top and then in some order Minn//Wisc/Penn st

I think it’s OSU-PSU-Wisky

 

mich and Minny are similar 

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On 11/28/2019 at 7:14 PM, YoloinOhio said:

 

Wow I thought Clemson had played a soft schedule but Bama is not even on the list.

Just now, YoloinOhio said:

I think it’s OSU-PSU-Wisky

 

mich and Minny are similar 

After today Wisc is above Minn obviously.

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On 8/11/2019 at 5:42 PM, BullBuchanan said:

Clemson and Alabama, no one else matters. You can write those both in permanent marker for at least the next 2 years as well.

 

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