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On 7/31/2019 at 3:03 PM, plenzmd1 said:

Nada..neither one of those things are  readily available in the NHL. You can pay the player $60M as a signing bonus and $1M salaries for a 6 year deal, cap hit is still $11M per year for life of the contract.

 

Buyouts are regulated by the CBA..and if you front load the amount of salary cap relief becomes so small compared to say the $11M cap hit you have above. 

 

 

If a team feels that a contract is so onerous there is a simple solution: Don't sign the player and use  your cap money for other players. The players (for the most part) who are signing these very extended and expensive contracts are the elite players in the league. If an organization doesn't believe that in the long run the value is there for them then they should not sign the player at such a premium cost. No one is being compelled to do anything that they don't want to do. You make decisions and then live with the consequences. That's life. 

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The attached link is a BN mailbag responses to hockey questions by reporter Lance Lysowski. Much of the piece centers on the Risto issue and what his value is on the market. The over-riding question hovering over this team is whether it has improved enough to move ahead of teams that have also improved?  

 

 

https://buffalonews.com/2019/08/01/buffalo-sabres-nikita-gusev-jimmy-vesey-marcus-johansson-nhl-analysis-2019/?utm_campaign=things-to-know&utm_source=home&utm_medium=

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His arbitration hearing was today. I am guessing this was signed before the hearing? 

 

His last contract paid him like $750k so this is actually a small pay cut. 

 

Wonder what the contract dispute was over. Maybe he wanted a 1 way deal (his salary in the minors is only like $70k or something like that)? 

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https://www.tsn.ca/ltir-a-lingering-issue-in-cba-negotiations-1.1345265

 

LTIR a lingering issue in CBA negotiations

 

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The point of the LTIR clause (Article 50.10-50.10) was to offer relief in the event a player on a club became unfit to play for at least 24 calendar days and 10 NHL regular season games. The spirit of the clause is to offer teams a degree of temporary relief when an unexpected injury occurs.

But as more and more teams catch on to the gaps in the current CBA, we see more strategic player acquisition. Consider the Toronto Maple Leafs and Ottawa Senators for a moment. (continued in link)

 

At least the leafs are using the LTIR rules to field the most competitive team they possibly can.  

 

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On the other end of the spectrum are the Senators, a team barreling towards the lowest degree of financial commitment available. After acquiring Ryan Callahan from the Tampa Bay Lightning earlier this week – the same Callahan who has all but confirmed his retirement from the league due to injury – the Senators have a whopping $15.3-million in LTIR. Depending on where RFA Colin White comes in, that LTIR number will be about half of what they are spending on their entire forward group and 20 per cent more than their entire defensive group to open the 2019-20 season.

 

The senators on the other hand are a disgrace. Eugene Melnyk simply should not own an NHL team. He clearly can’t afford it. 

 

The cap floor is roughly $61M this season. The senators are only paying $44(ish)M in salary this year.

 

They aren’t even trying to be subtle about it. Literally every move they’ve made this offseason has been about saving money. Every contract they’ve acquired has a cap hit higher than the salary owed, and in some cases there’s a drastic difference. (Like Callahan, who has a $6M cap hit but the Sens will only owe him like $800k or something like that). Every deal they’ve made sent out more real $$ than they took in. 

 

And what sucks the most is that they even put the importance of saving money over not helping direct division rivals. (it’s happened at least 3-4 times in the last couple/few years)

 

Twice this offseason alone they helped direct division rivals out of cap jams.

And they didn’t even make them pay a premium to do it! The Sens did it on the cheap because it saved them money. 

 

I legitimately feel bad for Ottawa fans. Melnyk is such a joke. 

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McCabe is out of his damn mind if he thinks he’s worth anything near $4.3M. lol

Buffalo’s offer is way more in line with the comparables. 

 

Hopefully he’s just shooting way high, hoping the arbitrator settles somewhere in the middle. 

 

If he was actually awarded that amount in arbitration, I believe the Sabres can just walk away (which I would 100% do. I hate losing assets for nothing but He’s just not worth that type of money)

 

edit - nope. Just looked. The walk away number is $4.397, so he’s just under it. 

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55 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:

 

 

McCabe is out of his damn mind if he thinks he’s worth anything near $4.3M. lol

Buffalo’s offer is way more in line with the comparables. 

 

Hopefully he’s just shooting way high, hoping the arbitrator settles somewhere in the middle. 

 

If he was actually awarded that amount in arbitration, I believe the Sabres can just walk away (which I would 100% do. I hate losing assets for nothing but He’s just not worth that type of money)

 

edit - nope. Just looked. The walk away number is $4.397, so he’s just under it. 

I, like you, don't believe that he will be awarded the $4.397 M that he is asking for. But if he is considered a second-pairing caliber defenseman he will be awarded more than what the Sabres are offering him, maybe $2.5 plus. For the sake of argument if the Sabres do deal Risto for a second-line forward then McCabe's value certainly would be more than the Sabre's offer. 

 

This is just my guess but I wouldn't be surprised if the Sabres dealt Risto or even McCabe and additional players to get back one bona fide second line player. It's funny how our cap situation has gone from being wide open to being tight in short order. I'm anxiously waiting for some deals. 

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2 hours ago, JohnC said:

I, like you, don't believe that he will be awarded the $4.397 M that he is asking for. But if he is considered a second-pairing caliber defenseman he will be awarded more than what the Sabres are offering him, maybe $2.5 plus. For the sake of argument if the Sabres do deal Risto for a second-line forward then McCabe's value certainly would be more than the Sabre's offer. 

 

This is just my guess but I wouldn't be surprised if the Sabres dealt Risto or even McCabe and additional players to get back one bona fide second line player. It's funny how our cap situation has gone from being wide open to being tight in short order. I'm anxiously waiting for some deals. 

Yeah, about $2.5M ish is what I was thinking, too.

 

and I wouldn’t be surprised to see McCabe deals either. There were some rumors of him potentially being on the block earlier this offseason. 

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https://wgr550.radio.com/articles/news/sabres-ink-jake-mccabe-two-year-deal

 

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The Sabres have avoided arbitration by signing Jake McCabe to a two-year, $5.7 million deal. The cap hit for McCabe is $2.8 million and puts the Sabres over the NHL Salary Cap by just over $500,000. Linus Ullmark’s arbitration award will up that number.

 

I can live with $2.8M

 

interested to see what moves are made to become cap compliant. They have a few options (send players down, buy outs, trades. Hamilton goes over them in the article)

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3 hours ago, K-9 said:

I foresee a buyoutapalooza coming soon. 

Paul Hamilton has repeatedly stated that Botts is usually steadfast in not buying out players. I wouldn't be surprised if Botts sent Sobotka down to Rochester in hopes that he leaves the continent. I wouldn't be surprised if the Rochester route was used to help give some cap relief. I see some trades materializing soon that will help a little with the cap. Some players may be dealt for some low round picks. 

 

Next year, there should be a lot more financial flexibility because a number of players are on the last year of their contracts. I believe that Scandella and Bogo are in that category. 

 

 

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On 7/31/2019 at 12:14 PM, BillsFan4 said:

 

 

 

$800k is obviously a bit low, but $2.65M seems way too high to me. 

 

Hoping for something around $1-1.3M. 

Good call, BF4. Ullmark came in at $1.325m. Well done!

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I'm not sure this NHL.com link will come through. If it does it is a six minute segment that gives a less than optimistic assessment of the team. The general thesis by both Dan Rosen and Mike Johnson is that there are so many unanswered issues. They both are not too keen on our goaltending situation. 

 

https://www.nhl.com/

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3 hours ago, JohnC said:

I'm not sure this NHL.com link will come through. If it does it is a six minute segment that gives a less than optimistic assessment of the team. The general thesis by both Dan Rosen and Mike Johnson is that there are so many unanswered issues. They both are not too keen on our goaltending situation. 

 

https://www.nhl.com/

 

I think this is the link to the video segment you’re looking for -

 

https://www.nhl.com/video/31-in-31-buffalo-sabres/t-290549380/c-68680403

 

I haven’t watched it yet (I will shortly)

13 hours ago, K-9 said:

Good call, BF4. Ullmark came in at $1.325m. Well done!

Lol thanks man. 

 

Im actually a bit surprised it wasn’t closer to $1.7. I figured it would fall closer to being split it down the middle like with ERod. 

 

 

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It’s Buffalo Sabres day on ProHockeyTalk.

 

Links:

 

Its Buffalo Sabres day - https://nhl.nbcsports.com/2019/08/04/its-buffalo-sabres-day-at-pht-5/

 

Krueger hold the key to unlocking the Sabres - https://nhl.nbcsports.com/2019/08/04/krueger-holds-key-to-unlocking-sabres-potential/

 

Sabres have questions to answer in offensive, defensive zone - https://nhl.nbcsports.com/2019/08/04/sabres-have-questions-to-answer-in-offensive-defensive-zones/

 

Botterill’s plan needs to bear fruit in Buffalo - https://nhl.nbcsports.com/2019/08/04/botterills-plan-needs-to-bear-fruit-in-buffalo/

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The attached link is a 45 minute interview with Jason  Botterill on WGR's Instigator show. He went through the roster and talked about how he goes about not just adding talent but assembling a roster and team. My takeaway from this interview is that Botts is a smart guy and has a vision on how to build a team and organization. He was reasonably candid in a public setting talking about players and where they are and what he expects from them.

 

There were a couple of nuggets that I got out of this interview. One is that I get the sense that Risto will be on this roster. The second is that he is counting on Mitts to take a leap forward and center a line with better wingers. This interview is worth listening to in this barren period of the hockey scene.  

 

 

https://wgr550.radio.com/media/audio-channel/08-07-sabres-general-manager-jason-botterill-instigators

 

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38 minutes ago, JohnC said:

The attached link is a 45 minute interview with Jason  Botterill on WGR's Instigator show. He went through the roster and talked about how he goes about not just adding talent but assembling a roster and team. My takeaway from this interview is that Botts is a smart guy and has a vision on how to build a team and organization. He was reasonably candid in a public setting talking about players and where they are and what he expects from them.

 

There were a couple of nuggets that I got out of this interview. One is that I get the sense that Risto will be on this roster. The second is that he is counting on Mitts to take a leap forward and center a line with better wingers. This interview is worth listening to in this barren period of the hockey scene.  

 

 

https://wgr550.radio.com/media/audio-channel/08-07-sabres-general-manager-jason-botterill-instigators

 

I dont have 45 minutes to listen, but that sure is not the impression on by some respected guys 

 

 

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42 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

I dont have 45 minutes to listen, but that sure is not the impression on by some respected guys 

 

 

He’s gotta dress that pig somehow. 

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2 hours ago, plenzmd1 said:

I dont have 45 minutes to listen, but that sure is not the impression on by some respected guys 

 

 

If you listened to the interview and disagreed with his views that's fine. It's understandable that someone doesn't have the time to listen to an extended interview. If that is the case then why bother to comment?  

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10 minutes ago, JohnC said:

If you listened to the interview and disagreed with his views that's fine. It's understandable that someone doesn't have the time to listen to an extended interview. If that is the case then why bother to comment?  

just saying sounds like it was a poop show

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11 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

just saying sounds like it was a poop show

 

Any reasons given?  

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6 minutes ago, bbb said:

 

Any reasons given?  

general gist i am getting

 

1) Mitts is  2C ready

2) vessey drives the net will help Mitts be better and a 2c..yes Jmmey freaking Vesey

3) Sabotka is a valuable/versatile piece

 

 

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20 hours ago, plenzmd1 said:

general gist i am getting

 

1) Mitts is  2C ready

2) vessey drives the net will help Mitts be better and a 2c..yes Jmmey freaking Vesey

3) Sabotka is a valuable/versatile piece

 

 

 

Thanks 

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24 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:

I wasn't able to bring up the BN article. From what I heard about him he is constantly looking at different training methods. Just watching him play it is apparent that he is a relentless effort player you don't have worry about. Even when he is subjected to periods of scoring lulls the effort is still there. You can't play at his pace without being in superb condition. 

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23 hours ago, plenzmd1 said:

general gist i am getting

 

1) Mitts is  2C ready

2) vessey drives the net will help Mitts be better and a 2c..yes Jmmey freaking Vesey

3) Sabotka is a valuable/versatile piece

 

 

Meanwhile, back in reality:

 

1) Mitts is far from having proved himself as an NHL starter, let alone a 2C.

2) Vessey is more or less, a bust.

3) Sabotka is f-ing god awful and if NHL contracts were not guaranteed, he wouldn't be on the team right now.

 

 

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