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5 minutes ago, bdutton said:

I paid slightly less in taxes this year than I did last year... despite both me and my wife claiming single-0 withholding.

What you paid in taxes has no relation to what your refund was. What you claimed as deductions at the beginning of the year has no bearing as to what you will eventually pay. Yes, it affects your refund, but only in the sense of how you received your income throughout the year. Too many people are fooled regarding the significance of their refund which is basically the withdrawing of funds that you've lent the government during the year.

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1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said:

What you paid in taxes has no relation to what your refund was. What you claimed as deductions at the beginning of the year has no bearing as to what you will eventually pay. Yes, it affects your refund, but only in the sense of how you received your income throughout the year. Too many people are fooled regarding the significance of their refund which is basically the withdrawing of funds that you've lent the government during the year.

I think you missed my point.  Despite giving the government as much as they were able to take out of my paycheck every two weeks, I had to pay more when I filed this year.  Only I paid slight less than when I filed last year.

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3 minutes ago, bdutton said:

I think you missed my point.  Despite giving the government as much as they were able to take out of my paycheck every two weeks, I had to pay more when I filed this year.  Only I paid slight less than when I filed last year.

Again, what matters is what you paid in totality, not what you had to cough up when you filed. My guess is that you live in a high tax state and have few deductions. Also, you and your wife are probably high earners.

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2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Again, what matters is what you paid in totality, not what you had to cough up when you filed. My guess is that you live in a high tax state and have few deductions. Also, you and your wife are probably high earners.

You probably don't have a job 

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I actually got a federal refund this year, for the first time in over a decade. Of course, after paying H&R Block to do my taxes (I did not want to try to figure out the new tax rules on my own), and paying NYS, I think I wound up a whopping $20 in the hole. Far better than the thousands I would have to pay in previous years, because my employer would never deduct the correct ***** amount out of my W-2 pay.

 

Anyhow, I wound up paying ~3% less tax rate on a lesser adjusted gross income due to the tax reduction and doubling of the standard deduction, along with now being able to automatically deduct 20% of my Schedule C income. Life is good.

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28 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

What tax cut?

 

The one that a vast majority of Americans got.  Thank you Donald Trump!

19 minutes ago, GG said:

I'm in the deepest of blue.  I got the opposite of a tax cut.

 

Maybe I should have clarified.  I meant your likely federal tax cut. 

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Income went up, tax bill increased less.  SALT cap got us some but Illinois is one of those targeted blue states so the laugh at all the lefties bitchin' is worth something.  State taxes here rose in 2017 and likely will rise again possibly even this year retroactively. 

 

Oh and the tax return set a new record for pages this year at 111 detroying the old record of 90-something with no changes to our tax status or business activity. 

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I guess the reason he is scapegoating immigrants is because he ain't got nothing to brag about 

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4 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

I guess the reason he is scapegoating immigrants is because he ain't got nothing to brag about 

 

All those numbers show is that: 

a) Most Americans do not understand what a "refund" is. 

and 

b) The enormous power/persuasiveness of the MSM to spread incorrect/false information as fact - something they've done about this tax cut since day one in both left leaning media companies and never Trump media circles (which is 95% of the total media complex).

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1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

All those numbers show is that: 

a) Most Americans do not understand what a "refund" is. 

and 

b) The enormous power/persuasiveness of the MSM to spread incorrect/false information as fact - something they've done about this tax cut since day one in both left leaning media companies and never Trump media circles (which is 95% of the total media complex).

They would know if they got a decent tax return. George W. Bush made sure they knew. 

 

The MSM never really got to get into the tax law, as the GOP did not even try and defend it in the last election. They still lost 40 seats. Most American knew this was mostly about getting the wealthy a huge tax break. The right wing media is VERY influnencial and could have tried promoting this monster, but didn't really try. 

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2018 was a transitional year into retirement so not a fair comparison to 2018 for me from 2017.

Owed Feds and got a State refund - basically a wash.

Feds tax most everything including SSI. Oregon is not one of the 13 states that tax SSI.

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42 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

They would know if they got a decent tax return. George W. Bush made sure they knew. 

 

The MSM never really got to get into the tax law, as the GOP did not even try and defend it in the last election. They still lost 40 seats. Most American knew this was mostly about getting the wealthy a huge tax break. The right wing media is VERY influnencial and could have tried promoting this monster, but didn't really try. 

You can't even frame the issues properly after just having this explained to you a couple of days ago. You don't get a tax return, you file a tax return, dumbass.

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1 hour ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Maybe I should have clarified.  I meant your likely federal tax cut. 

 

Out of the goodness of my heart, I donated to the federal government

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2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

 

The MSM never really got to get into the tax law, as the GOP did not even try and defend it in the last election. 

 

Maybe if the MSM media had any clue as to what they are doing.   Try interviewing a CPA or two on how the new tax laws will affect people in all tax brackets.  

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2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

They would know if they got a decent tax return. George W. Bush made sure they knew. 

 

The MSM never really got to get into the tax law, as the GOP did not even try and defend it in the last election. They still lost 40 seats. Most American knew this was mostly about getting the wealthy a huge tax break. The right wing media is VERY influnencial and could have tried promoting this monster, but didn't really try. 

 

In this last tax cut the federal tax rates for all W-2 brackets were reduced by very similar percentages.  That's about as fair as you can make it. 

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my taxes are pretty complicated. last year i had an over payment on estimated taxes, which is usually an every other year thing (at least i try to make it come out that way) and when that is the case, it gets payed forward. due to the way things worked out this year, i will not owe any tax. as a result, i will be claiming all monies owed us here.

 

no i'm not Trump and no, you can't see my taxes. 

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Anything I saved went into unexpected medical costs this year.  But hey, that caused additional savings.  That fits right in with the American way I'd say, thinking you actually saved 50 cents because you bought that on sale oversized jar of peanut butter that you otherwise wouldn't have.

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Just now, shrader said:

Anything I saved went into unexpected medical costs this year.  But hey, that caused additional savings.  That fits right in with the American way I'd say, thinking you actually saved 50 cents because you bought that on sale oversized jar of peanut butter that you otherwise wouldn't have.

 

Sorry to hear that, man. Hope you and yours are well. :beer: 

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Living in California it’s hard to know if I actually got a tax cut. While my uppermost earnings were taxed less by a few percent, I’m no longer able to deduct my State tax so I’m guessing it was pretty much a wash.

 

Dont tell Bernie though! He’s stuck on the concept that I’m STILL not paying my fair share...whatever that is.

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