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13 hours ago, thebandit27 said:

That list leads me to believe that they're looking at Jonah as a LT.

 

And if that's the case, then I'd probably be fine with any of them.

 

Of course, that may mean that Dawkins is moving to LG.

Or moved as part of a trade back into the first round or move up in the second round.

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6 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:

Reading David Bakhtiari's scouting report coming out of college reads eerily similar to Jonah Williams. Not bad considering Bakhtiari has developed into the best LT in the league.

 

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/david-bakhtiari?id=2540183

 

 

 

He's been rock-steady, but I don't think I'd call him the best LT in football over the field of Tyron Smith, Trent Williams, Duane Brown, Joe Staley, Terron Armstead, and Jake Matthews.

 

Also, the two players aren't all that close aside from height and weight.  Bakhtiari was clearly a better athlete and stronger coming out of Colorado...and remember, I'm a Jonah guy; I think he'll be a very good NFL player.  I just don't think he's a LT.

 

https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/david-bakhtiari

https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/jonah-williams

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2 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

 

He's been rock-steady, but I don't think I'd call him the best LT in football over the field of Tyron Smith, Trent Williams, Duane Brown, Joe Staley, Terron Armstead, and Jake Matthews.

 

Also, the two players aren't all that close aside from height and weight.  Bakhtiari was clearly a better athlete and stronger coming out of Colorado...and remember, I'm a Jonah guy; I think he'll be a very good NFL player.  I just don't think he's a LT.

 

https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/david-bakhtiari

https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/jonah-williams

 

Funny cuz the other two comparisons I see people make is Staley and Matthews. Why don't you think he's a LT? Too small?

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36 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:

 

Funny cuz the other two comparisons I see people make is Staley and Matthews. Why don't you think he's a LT? Too small?

 

24 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:

I really like Jonah Williams. Maybe not at #9 but I really like him. The way he preps for his opponents is so meticulous but every smart person I know thinks he's a G. 

 

It's not as much size as it is functional strength and anchor ability.  His hand usage is good, but he too often lets bigger guys get their hands into him and disrupt his flow...and once he's disrupted, he doesn't have the functional strength to recover.

 

I don't mean to say that he can't play LT, but rather that (a) I don't think he'll be a great LT, and (b) it's not, IMO, his best positional fit.  I still see a center when I watch him. He's got everything you'd want in a center: great play recognition, technique, finds his fits in the run game, and he can pass protect like a tackle.  Were he a guard, there would be times he'd struggle playing head-up against the better DTs.  He's not quite athletic enough to keep up with the Donald/Cox/C. Jones types, and he's not quite stout enough to move the space-eating DTs.  At center, you can hide some of that by getting him help with combo blocks more often, which will free him up to do what he does best.

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20 hours ago, chef4131 said:

based on comments made by Gil Brandt regarding Ed Oliver's pro day -if the report is accurate-I am re-thinking Oliver picked by Bills  doesn't seem like a player the Bills would want.

 

It was reported by Gil Brandt that Ed oliver was complaining during his pro day work outs 

 

That does not seem to match every other account out there. Link?

 

From other accounts he avoided the trap question and had no complaints about how Houston used him, but did feel he would project and be a more natural 3-tech player in NFL.

 

Blew away folks with his pro-day workout and tweeted "in my element" during the process.

 

 

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JW is my hope for our pick. I think he can be the LT for many years and bond with JA.

 

He is a Jr and ready for the big show.

He had a spreadsheet for every PR he went up against in College.

 

This kids is a hard worker and very football intelligent.

 

I want the BEST Oline in the NFL so pick an OL in the 1st. .

Grab a DL in the 2nd, then TE/RB 3rd -5th.

 

 

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4 hours ago, thebandit27 said:

 

He's been rock-steady, but I don't think I'd call him the best LT in football over the field of Tyron Smith, Trent Williams, Duane Brown, Joe Staley, Terron Armstead, and Jake Matthews.

 

Also, the two players aren't all that close aside from height and weight.  Bakhtiari was clearly a better athlete and stronger coming out of Colorado...and remember, I'm a Jonah guy; I think he'll be a very good NFL player.  I just don't think he's a LT.

 

https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/david-bakhtiari

https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/jonah-williams

Most scouting reports don't think so either.  Jawaan Taylor is the only prospect who has the potential to be a franchise LT.  Everyone else (e.g. Williams, Dillard, Tytus Howard) is projected as a right tackle.

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7 hours ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:

Reading David Bakhtiari's scouting report coming out of college reads eerily similar to Jonah Williams. Not bad considering Bakhtiari has developed into the best LT in the league.

 

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/david-bakhtiari?id=2540183

 

 

 

I think the difference here, for me anyway, is that Bakhtiari was a 4th round pick and we are talking about #9 overall here. Bakhtiari was a flawed prospect who was drafted and developed well. That's why he went in the 4th. I don't think you take a flawed prospect in the top ten. Bahktiari also hits that 34 inch arm length that is typically the cutoff for NFL scouting people when it comes to left tackles. Neither Williams or Dillard do. Dion Dawkins checks in at 35 inches. 

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