snafu Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 On 11/14/2018 at 8:30 PM, BeginnersMind said: They will shut up and be fine. A passing ripple. Expand Actually, I think a lot of people are of the opinion that the deal is not set in stone, and that some of the incentives can/will be rolled back. When there is this much money involved, a lot of people squawk for various selfish reasons. Also, it sounds like some are trying to make political hay out of the fact that NYC refused to let Walmart in (because they're a non-Union employer), but they open their wallet to Amazon (also non-Union).
Koko78 Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 On 11/14/2018 at 9:12 PM, Miracle Bills said: The problem is childish people like Socialist Ocasio-Cortez thinks money grows on trees. You know the problem with socialism, you eventually run out of other peoples money. Expand The real problem is that idiots like Crazy-Eyes thinks that the government is entitled to the fruits of your labor, to redistribute how she sees fit. To those morons, it's "welfare" and a "giveaway" when the government doesn't tax the crap out of a business. 1
B-Man Posted November 15, 2018 Posted November 15, 2018 Spit take warning................... Quote Quote Michael R. StrainVerified account @MichaelRStrain FollowFollow @MichaelRStrain This is hilarious: "Cuomo defended the deal, arguing that New York has to offer incentives because of its comparatively high taxes." Cuomo: “It’s not a level playing field to begin with.” “All things being equal, if we do nothing, they’re going to Texas.” So, where New York takes money from their own citizens to make this happen, Texas is not............Got it. So he’s saying that high taxes are a hindrance to economic growth? And he’s giving a billionaire a tax break and shifting the burden to the working class? 3
IDBillzFan Posted February 14, 2019 Author Posted February 14, 2019 On 11/13/2018 at 10:24 PM, LABillzFan said: We pick on Ocasio-Cortez, but she raises some valid points here in this thread. Expand Well done, AOC. 1
DC Tom Posted February 14, 2019 Posted February 14, 2019 On 2/14/2019 at 6:56 PM, LABillzFan said: Well done, AOC. Expand I'm sure now that Amazon isn't coming to Queens, they'll have a much better chance of fixing the crumbling infrastructure. And I'm seeing plenty of people calling the loss of 25,000 jobs in the area a "win for labor activists." 1
GG Posted February 14, 2019 Posted February 14, 2019 OTOH, it takes special talent to piss off Trump AND Cuomo within one week. 1 6
IDBillzFan Posted February 14, 2019 Author Posted February 14, 2019 On 2/14/2019 at 7:01 PM, DC Tom said: I'm sure now that Amazon isn't coming to Queens, they'll have a much better chance of fixing the crumbling infrastructure. And I'm seeing plenty of people calling the loss of 25,000 jobs in the area a "win for labor activists." Expand I think there's some truth this this article from The Atlantic. Quote In a period of growing antipathy toward billionaires, Amazon’s corporate welfare haul struck many—including me—as a gratuitous gift to a trillion-dollar company that was probably going to keep adding thousands of jobs to the New York region, anyway. The company has more 5,000 employees in the five boroughs, including 2,500 at a Staten Island fulfillment center and at least one thousand more in the Manhattan West office building. Expand Maybe you get that growth without gouging the condo market any more than usual. In the end, this should really solidify AOC as a leader on the left, and short of watching Hillary try to navigate a flight of stairs, she's becoming my favorite leftist.
IDBillzFan Posted February 14, 2019 Author Posted February 14, 2019 You go, girl. You're a real firebrand and the Donner Party is going to love you being part of their family.
snafu Posted February 14, 2019 Posted February 14, 2019 Amazon: "Hi, NYC, here is a big giant valuable diamond! Give me a much less valuable emerald in return and we can do business" NYC morons: "***** you, #######!" Amazon: "??✌️"
TakeYouToTasker Posted February 14, 2019 Posted February 14, 2019 On 2/14/2019 at 7:23 PM, LABillzFan said: You go, girl. You're a real firebrand and the Donner Party is going to love you being part of their family. Expand ALOL Right, I mean, why would you want to redistribute 25 million of Amazon's operating dollars (low end estimate) into your own congressional district? 2
BringBackOrton Posted February 14, 2019 Posted February 14, 2019 On 2/14/2019 at 7:43 PM, TakeYouToTasker said: ALOL Right, I mean, why would you want to redistribute 25 million of Amazon's operating dollars (low end estimate) into your own congressional district? Expand Here's your answer! Because she would rather invest the $3B that they were going to "give away." I find myself hoping Pelosi puts this moron on an ice floe. 1
IDBillzFan Posted February 14, 2019 Author Posted February 14, 2019 On 2/14/2019 at 7:43 PM, TakeYouToTasker said: ALOL Right, I mean, why would you want to redistribute 25 million of Amazon's operating dollars (low end estimate) into your own congressional district? Expand It's almost like Amazon has no idea what it means to provide money to those who are unwilling to work! C'mon, Amazon! Get with the millennial cool kids! On 2/14/2019 at 7:46 PM, BringBackOrton said: Because she would rather invest the $3B that they were going to "give away." Expand Okay, this makes no sense. Her "Green Dream or whatever it's called" was specifically designed to subsidize jobs, even for people unwilling to work. Suddenly she doesn't want to do that? Weird. It's like she has no idea what she' talking about most of the time. 2
The_Dude Posted February 14, 2019 Posted February 14, 2019 I’m ok with politician working deals with companies. But after looking at this deal AOC is actually right. Amazon and Walmart are worse than ALLLLL the good-for-nothing welfare queens out there. Why is my itty-bitty company paying more in taxes than Amazon? We’ve entered another gilded age and we need to break up Amazon.
TakeYouToTasker Posted February 14, 2019 Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) On 2/14/2019 at 7:46 PM, BringBackOrton said: Here's your answer! Because she would rather invest the $3B that they were going to "give away." I find myself hoping Pelosi puts this moron on an ice floe. Expand That's... That's not how accounting works... The state of New York was not going to be giving Amazon $3 billion dollars to come in. They were going to give Amazon $3 billion in tax credits, which would have been a break on their tax bill, but still a net gain in corporate taxes paid in addition to the 25 thousand jobs averaging 6 figures or more. Now New York has nothing. No tax receipts, no jobs, and still hold on to their crumbling infrastructure. They do not have 3b in assets they can allocate elsewhere. This woman is a ***** moron. Edited February 14, 2019 by TakeYouToTasker 3 3
BringBackOrton Posted February 14, 2019 Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) On 2/14/2019 at 7:53 PM, TakeYouToTasker said: That's... That's not how accounting works... The state of New York was going to be giving Amazon $3 billion dollars to come in. They were going to give Amazon $3 billion in tax credits, which would have been a break on their tax bill, but still a net gain in corporate taxes paid in addition to the 25 thousand jobs averaging 6 figures or more. Now New York has nothing. No tax receipts, no jobs, and still hold on to their crumbling infrastructure. They do not have 3b in assets they can allocate elsewhere. This woman is a ***** moron. Expand Hey now. She graduated ***** laude from Boston University as an Econ major. If I was the Dean of BU, I'd sue her for defamation. Edit: wow, I can't type summa ***** laude or ***** laude? Interesting. Edited February 14, 2019 by BringBackOrton 1
IDBillzFan Posted February 14, 2019 Author Posted February 14, 2019 On 2/14/2019 at 7:56 PM, DC Tom said: And that $3B they were "giving away" was tax breaks and future incentives - money they don't already have. Instead of "giving away" money they don't have, they still don't have the money...and now don't have 25,000 more jobs. So now that they're not giving away the money they didn't have, they're going to pay for the subway with money they still don't have, while 25,000 people have no need to take it. Expand Other than that, how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln? 1
The_Dude Posted February 14, 2019 Posted February 14, 2019 There has to be legislation at the federal level to stop this kind of nonsense. Amazon does NOT need tax incentives. 1
DC Tom Posted February 14, 2019 Posted February 14, 2019 On 2/14/2019 at 7:53 PM, TakeYouToTasker said: That's... That's not how accounting works... The state of New York was going to be giving Amazon $3 billion dollars to come in. They were going to give Amazon $3 billion in tax credits, which would have been a break on their tax bill, but still a net gain in corporate taxes paid in addition to the 25 thousand jobs averaging 6 figures or more. Now New York has nothing. No tax receipts, no jobs, and still hold on to their crumbling infrastructure. They do not have 3b in assets they can allocate elsewhere. This woman is a ***** moron. Expand Beat me to it. Sadly, this woman is a ***** moron of an all-too common type. 3
IDBillzFan Posted February 14, 2019 Author Posted February 14, 2019 On 2/14/2019 at 7:56 PM, BringBackOrton said: Hey now. She graduated ***** laude from Boston University as an Econ major. If I was the Dean of BU, I'd sue her for defamation. Expand You can't even call it 's.e.m.e.n.' laude. 1
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