3rdnlng Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 (edited) Why should he have still had a security clearance? https://thepoliticalinsider.com/john-brennan-putin-source/ If this is true, this isn’t just Trump Derangement Syndrome. This is a betrayal of America and a gift to the Russians. John Brennan, the former young communist, and Obama’s CIA Director has been one of the biggest critics of Trump’s behavior during the infamous press conference with Russian President Vladimir Putin. (RELATED: Rand Paul Defends Trump, Slams ‘Completely Unhinged’ CIA Director.) He’s been so critical, in fact, that some are speculating that he ran to the New York Times to provide evidence of just how wrongheaded Trump was to agree with Putin about election meddling during the conference. Here is the beginning of the NYT report: Two weeks before his inauguration, Donald J. Trump was shown highly classified intelligence indicating that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia had personally ordered complex cyberattacks to sway the 2016 American election. The evidence included texts and emails from Russian military officers and information gleaned from a top-secret source close to Mr. Putin, who had described to the C.I.A. how the Kremlin decided to execute its campaign of hacking and disinformation. Brennan was the head of the C.I.A. at the time. The report further lists who was present at the briefing where Trump learned of Russian interference: “John O. Brennan, the C.I.A. director; James R. Clapper Jr., the director of national intelligence; and Adm. Michael S. Rogers, the director of the National Security Agency and the commander of United States Cyber Command.” The report also confirms that aforementioned source, which was so secretive, that Brennan actually kept mention of him or her from President Obama’s daily briefing during the waning days of presidency. Instead, he would relay knowledge through a separate channel, namely with white unmarked envelopes. This guy says it all: Jordan SchachtelVerified account @JordanSchachtel Jul 18 Let me get this straight: John Brennan calls President Trump treasonous. The next day, he calls the New York Times and apparently reveals to them that the United States intelligence community has placed "a top-secret source close to Mr. Putin". Unreal... Edited August 16, 2018 by 3rdnlng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 too bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Just more proof Trump can't handle being president. Every single other president, except maybe Nixon, has handled being criticized. Not Trump, just can't emotionally deal with it. Every single other president has handled media coverage, Trump just can't. He is someone that never should have been elected and Putin understands that and loves it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted August 16, 2018 Author Share Posted August 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, row_33 said: too bad Please clarify. 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Just more proof Trump can't handle being president. Every single other president, except maybe Nixon, has handled being criticized. Not Trump, just can't emotionally deal with it. Every single other president has handled media coverage, Trump just can't. He is someone that never should have been elected and Putin understands that and loves it. Tell us, why should someone who leaks top secrets have a security clearance? Why shouldn't Brennan be brought up on charges of treason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Please clarify. Tell us, why should someone who leaks top secrets have a security clearance? Why shouldn't Brennan be brought up on charges of treason? More proof the unhinged Trump cultists would rather crash and burn our Republican to protect corrupt Trump. Sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted August 16, 2018 Author Share Posted August 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: More proof the unhinged Trump cultists would rather crash and burn our Republican to protect corrupt Trump. Sad. You're just a monkey throwingshit against the wall. When it sticks, it's still justshit on the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: You're just a monkey throwingshit against the wall. When it sticks, it's still justshit on the wall. It cracks me up to hear the far left socialists like Tibs and Gary use words like snowflake and unhinged to describe Republicans. It's like watching Shooter McGavin try to hit a golf ball with Happy Gilmore's swing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 15 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: You're just a monkey throwingshit against the wall. When it sticks, it's still justshit on the wall. No, this is exactly what I said, Trump cannot handle the job. He's being criticized and lashes out like a spoiled child. Besides, Trump leaked classified information to the Russians in the WH. Why were you not upset about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted August 16, 2018 Author Share Posted August 16, 2018 Just now, Tiberius said: No, this is exactly what I said, Trump cannot handle the job. He's being criticized and lashes out like a spoiled child. Besides, Trump leaked classified information to the Russians in the WH. Why were you not upset about that? This thread is about John Brennan and his treason. Trump, as president cannot leak classified information. Do you think it is right for a former CIA chief to remark that the CIA has an operative close to Putin? Answer that question without beating around your bush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: This thread is about John Brennan and his treason. Trump, as president cannot leak classified information. Do you think it is right for a former CIA chief to remark that the CIA has an operative close to Putin? Answer that question without beating around your bush. I don't know that. But that's not why he was cut off. Trump is throwing a hissy fit, plain and simple. He is unfit for office. You can make up, exaggerate and whine all you want about other things, but the fact of the matter is Trump is just emotionally unbalanced and is just lashing out here. There's no policy or thought behind this other than to try and punish someone that is criticizing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted August 16, 2018 Author Share Posted August 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: I don't know that. But that's not why he was cut off. Trump is throwing a hissy fit, plain and simple. He is unfit for office. You can make up, exaggerate and whine all you want about other things, but the fact of the matter is Trump is just emotionally unbalanced and is just lashing out here. There's no policy or thought behind this other than to try and punish someone that is criticizing him. So, you refuse to answer? I wonder when that operative that is close to Putin will be poisoned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 53 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Please clarify. Tell us, why should someone who leaks top secrets have a security clearance? Why shouldn't Brennan be brought up on charges of treason? he should be on temporary suspension while his situation is being reviewed this could take years though too bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted August 16, 2018 Author Share Posted August 16, 2018 Just now, row_33 said: he should be on temporary suspension while his situation is being reviewed this could take years though too bad A security clearance is not a right but a privilege. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 15 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: A security clearance is not a right but a privilege. what is the usual history and protocol and bent protocol for formers? i would assume this is an extraordinary measure but well within the rights of a President. Trump is not afraid to use the Bully Pulpit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 44 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: So, you refuse to answer? I wonder when that operative that is close to Putin will be poisoned? You are jumping to a conclusion Trump never even made. There is zero evidence the source was revealed, or where and what form the source took. Complete crap out of nothing. Emails, texts and other things can be gathered electronically. Trump said he revoked him for erratic behaviour, lol. Like i said, Trump did this for reasons of spite, nothing more. You cultists just keep making excuses, go ahead. Unfit for office Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 His clearance was revoked on July 26th. The only ones screaming about it being revoked are those that profited from his still having clearance... John Brennan ($$) and the MSM (leaks). Should have been done even earlier. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 The Brennan clearance thing reminds me of the fake panic over Bush firing federal prosecutors. The president doing things he’s authorized to do is not an attack on American democracy: it *is* American democracy. How is taking away Brennan’s clearance an effort to silence him? Will he stop speaking in public? Are the cable news shows no longer going to have him on? Will he—gasp—stop tweeting? Trump is only giving Brennan more airtime. For about 48 hours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Just more proof Trump can't handle being president. Every single other president, except maybe Nixon, has handled being criticized. Not Trump, just can't emotionally deal with it. Every single other president has handled media coverage, Trump just can't. He is someone that never should have been elected and Putin understands that and loves it. I disagree whole heartedly, I think this just shows how crooked the msm is. He knows no matter what he says it's going to get twisted around to Trump bad! He trolls the hell out of them. He's actually doing them a favor. Either report the truth, or you're not included. He's a genious!! Playing hardball works for him. They know he means what he says and isn't going to back down from thugs and liars. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 what is the usual procedure for retaining credentials after the gig is up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Found a clip of Brennan discussing this move: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 1 hour ago, row_33 said: what is the usual history and protocol and bent protocol for formers? i would assume this is an extraordinary measure but well within the rights of a President. Trump is not afraid to use the Bully Pulpit Former presidents basically have lifetime clearances for everything, for security reasons (i.e. the Secret Service wants them informed about threats). What's more First Ladies maintain the same lifetime clearance, on the basis of living with secure information. (Really. It stems from the First Lady occupying the residential wing of the White House, where classified information is permitted, so they can't eliminate the risk of the First Lady being exposed to classified info.) That that didn't cause a major security breach until recently amazes me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 (edited) with Brennan removed from certain perks this will allow for a more honest and open investigation of his dealings... Edited August 16, 2018 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 28 minutes ago, B-Man said: The Brennan clearance thing reminds me of the fake panic over Bush firing federal prosecutors. The president doing things he’s authorized to do is not an attack on American democracy: it *is* American democracy. How is taking away Brennan’s clearance an effort to silence him? Will he stop speaking in public? Are the cable news shows no longer going to have him on? Will he—gasp—stop tweeting? Trump is only giving Brennan more airtime. For about 48 hours. When he just acts out of spite it is not democracy, it's having an unfit leader who can't control his emotions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 All this spilled digital ink coming to the defense of a man who's done the indefensible, including: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/31/cia-admits-spying-senate-staffers https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/01/does-it-matter-if-john-brennan-was-complicit-in-illegal-torture/266918/ Including this: He also made secret trips to Moscow in March of 2016 (right after the NSA audit began) where he met with the FSB: https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/04/john_brennans_secret_trip_to_moscow.html But keep letting Gary, Tibs and the others tire themselves out defending a man who's murdered an American journalist, spied on Congress and the press to cover up his own ill deeds, and who was one of the leading architects of a palace coup attempt. Tibs and Gary have less principles than even Brennan - as would anyone who rushes to the defense of a man who betrayed this country every day he "served". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 27 minutes ago, westside said: I disagree whole heartedly, I think this just shows how crooked the msm is. He knows no matter what he says it's going to get twisted around to Trump bad! He trolls the hell out of them. He's actually doing them a favor. Either report the truth, or you're not included. He's a genious!! Playing hardball works for him. They know he means what he says and isn't going to back down from thugs and liars. If you knew Trump colluded with Russia, would you tell everyone that would listen? Any good American would 8 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Found a clip of Brennan discussing this move: Actually that's how Trump really acts! Getting out in front of that one with the rubber glue argument? Nice dishonesty! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: If you knew Trump colluded with Russia, would you tell everyone that would listen? Any good American would In his op ed today, the only evidence Brennan offered to back up that claim was Trump asking Russia for the emails during a speech. You'd think the former head of CIA would have more than that to convince the American public... but, nah. It's always been a coup. Brennan has committed sedition if not outright treason. He's going to be in jail for a very long time, or meet his untimely end soon. There's no other way out for snakes who betray their country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 15 minutes ago, row_33 said: what is the usual procedure for retaining credentials after the gig is up? They keep them on for institutional memory and non partisan cooperation through different administrations. Human capital is a stupid thing to waste for partisan temper tantrums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Actually that's how Trump really acts! Getting out in front of that one with the rubber glue argument? Nice dishonesty! ? Trump doesn't throw temper tantrums. He just gets that smug, ****-eating Obama-like grin on his face and tweets some blithering stupidity not based in reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: In his op ed today, the only evidence Brennan offered to back up that claim was Trump asking Russia for the emails during a speech. You'd think the former head of CIA would have more than that to convince the American public... but, nah. It's always been a coup. Brennan has committed sedition if not outright treason. He's going to be in jail for a very long time, or meet his untimely end soon. There's no other way out for snakes who betray their country. We all know there way more to the story than that and he has laid it out before. It's really old hat at this point. The only difference now is that the walls are really closing in. I'll bet Brennan knows or not if Cohen went to Prague. Remember that one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted August 16, 2018 Author Share Posted August 16, 2018 Cohen went to Prague. There is no doubt about it. It was the wrong Cohen though. How many times do you have to be told this for you to actually understand it? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 1 minute ago, DC Tom said: Trump doesn't throw temper tantrums. He just gets that smug, ****-eating Obama-like grin on his face and tweets some blithering stupidity not based in reality. No, he has temper tantrums and acts out his frustrations like a little B word. Obama was a natural aristocrat compared to that vulgar buffoon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: We all know there way more to the story than that and he has laid it out before. It's really old hat at this point. The only difference now is that the walls are really closing in. I'll bet Brennan knows or not if Cohen went to Prague. Remember that one? I do remember. And I've personally spoken with the USC baseball coaches who gave Cohen and his son a tour of the campus on the day he was supposed to be in Prague. Keep on believing in long debunked talking points, it's working well for you... https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/michael-cohen-it-is-fake-news-meant-to-malign-mr-trump/512762/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Just now, 3rdnlng said: Cohen went to Prague. There is no doubt about it. It was the wrong Cohen though. How many times do you have to be told this for you to actually understand it? Well, since he is cooperating, we will know for sure soon enough. So Cohen and Orarosma have both now stated Trump knew about the emails of Clinton before they were released, is that right?? Lol Just now, Deranged Rhino said: I do remember. And I've personally spoken with the USC baseball coaches who gave Cohen and his son a tour of the campus on the day he was supposed to be in Prague. Keep on believing in long debunked talking points, it's working well for you... https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/michael-cohen-it-is-fake-news-meant-to-malign-mr-trump/512762/ Oh you did? I believe you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted August 16, 2018 Author Share Posted August 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: No, he has temper tantrums and acts out his frustrations like a little B word. Obama was a natural aristocrat compared to that vulgar buffoon. He is a Kenyan Prince. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 January 10th 2017, ya, nothing's changed in Cohens life since then! Lol, you are special Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Nonsense is all they have left. Not that Tibs ever had anything more... Anyone notice how they keep circling back to the same talking points? Even ones long since debunked? Claim: Trump Tower meeting = COLLUSION/CONSPIRACY! ... Reality: Nothing illegal happened during the meeting, the meeting itself was entrapment. Claim: Cohen was in Prague meeting with Russians! .... Reality: Cohen was in Southern California touring a campus, a different Michael Cohen was in Prague exposing how this information was gathered (illegally) in the first place. We'll be back to the Seychelles and Prince soon enough. It's almost like, in 2 years of investigating, there's been no new information learned other than what was known (and leaked) in early 2017... funny how that works, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Wouldn't he, by definition, be required to be silent about the things he learned with his security clearance? John Brennan: - Lied to Congress - Leaked to the press 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donbb Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Just now, B-Man said: Wouldn't he, by definition, be required to be silent about the things he learned with his security clearance? John Brennan: - Lied to Congress - Leaked to the press Why hasn't be been prosecuted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 It's coming - if they don't suicide him first (they being CIA). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 14 minutes ago, donbb said: Why hasn't be been prosecuted? bless your tender and naive heart... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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