California (again)

[Orlando Tim]

26 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

 

Huh??  How is it the least bit difficult to know who to blame for this?

 

The state government passed a law specifically designed to shut down one of the most inventive and successful ideas of the last decade.

Good point- I am just used to blaming the judges in SF for inventive rulings while this one was by the book. Your right the state govt is to blame.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

14 hours ago, KD in CA said:

 

Huh??  How is it the least bit difficult to know who to blame for this?

 

The state government passed a law specifically designed to shut down one of the most inventive and successful ideas of the last decade.

 

...here's a pretty good precedent…..happened when FedEx bought Roadway Express and created FedEx Ground, treating drivers an independent contractors...

 

Law firm of Fishel Downey Albrecht & Riepenhoff LLP  January 15th, 2015

 

FedEx Sued by Drivers Clarified as Independent Contractors

Thousands of FedEx drivers all over the United States sued or are currently in the process of suing FedEx for classifying these drivers as “independent contractors”, as opposed to normal employees—and many are winning.

Specifically, the FedEx Ground division offers small package pick-up and delivery services in the United States, through a network of nearly 32,500 FedEx-uniformed drivers. These workers all executed some type of “Pickup and Delivery Contractor Operating Agreement” (“OA”) with FedEx, which classifies these drivers as independent contractors and not employees.

Accordingly, the OA allows FedEx to potentially save money in a number of areas, including: health benefits, unemployment insurances, retirement accounts, and overtime pay. In the majority of these actions, the Plaintiff-Drivers are alleging that they were misclassified as independent contractors when they were in fact employees; thus the Plaintiff-Drivers are seeking reimbursement of business expenses and back pay for overtime.

In general, the most significant factor any court will examine for determining whether a person is an employee versus an independent contractor is the “employer’s control.” If the employer has a right to control the means and manner of a person’s service—as opposed to controlling only the results of that service—the person is an employee and not an independent contractor.

In determining whether a worker is under the “employer’s control”, Courts typically look for: (1) the extent of the employer’s control, (2) the actual exercise of the employer’s control, (3) the duration of the employment, (4) the employer’s right to discharge, (5) the method of payment, (6) how the employer furnishes the employees’ equipment, (7) the employer’s control over regular work business, and/or (8) the employment contract.

[\GoBillsInDallas/]

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/california-calls-rolling-blackouts-first-020606005.html

 

[KD in CA]

People here are such ***** pussies.  Mass hysteria over a 1-2 hour blackout.

 

These people need to live in the Northeast for a while where power sometimes goes out several times a year.

[\GoBillsInDallas/]

3 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

People here are such ***** pussies.

 

[GG]

5 hours ago, KD in CA said:

People here are such ***** pussies.  Mass hysteria over a 1-2 hour blackout.

 

These people need to live in the Northeast for a while where power sometimes goes out several times a year.

And yet the Green New Deal relies on switching all your power needs to the electric grid.  People are morons.  

[Wacka]

39 minutes ago, GG said:

And yet the Green New Deal relies on switching all your power needs to the electric grid.  People are morons.  

They even  freak out when it rains a lot.  When I first moved to CA, I went to the supermarket when it was raining (October- first rainfall of the season). The market was  empty. I asked the clerk why no one was out. She said "It's raining". I said so what.  Years later there was an Artesian well that sprung up next to Highway 101 real close to where the Niners stadium now is. Must have gotten buried when it was all farmland.  Just a thin layer of water trickling across the lanes.  The traffic slowed down from the usual 70-75 to a crawl. If I went through there with no traffic, I would do 65-70. they had to close the highway on a Sunday to cap the well.

[3rdnlng]

32 minutes ago, Wacka said:

They even  freak out when it rains a lot.  When I first moved to CA, I went to the supermarket when it was raining (October- first rainfall of the season). The market was  empty. I asked the clerk why no one was out. She said "It's raining". I said so what.  Years later there was an Artesian well that sprung up next to Highway 101 real close to where the Niners stadium now is. Must have gotten buried when it was all farmland.  Just a thin layer of water trickling across the lanes.  The traffic slowed down from the usual 70-75 to a crawl. If I went through there with no traffic, I would do 65-70. they had to close the highway on a Sunday to cap the well.

Many years ago when I was at Fort Gordon in Georgia it technically snowed. Somewhere between a "dusting" and 1/4". Locals panicked and I even saw some putting chains on their vehicles. How they even had chains in the first place was a mystery. 

[Chef Jim]

6 hours ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/california-calls-rolling-blackouts-first-020606005.html

 

 

Ahhhhhh finally.  Nice and warm.  

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

1 hour ago, GG said:

And yet the Green New Deal relies on switching all your power needs to the electric grid.  People are morons.  

 

....and they're STILL "in the dark"....SMH............

3. West Coast Blackout (1982)

High winds were the cause of this major blackout along the coast of the Western United States. On December 22, these winds knocked a key transmission tower into a line tower causing 3 other towers to fail. More problems occurred when communication issues prevented control instructions from being passed along to workers. Even backup plans failed due to the fact that equipment wasn?t configured to handle such an incredible failure.

It was estimated that around 2 million businesses and homes went without electricity during the blackout, affecting people in San Fransisco and San Diego and all the way to Las Vegas, Nevada.

[Chef Jim]

5 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Many years ago when I was at Fort Gordon in Georgia it technically snowed. Somewhere between a "dusting" and 1/4". Locals panicked and I even saw some putting chains on their vehicles. How they even had chains in the first place was a mystery. 

 

I have a good friend in GA who told me they freak out when it snows there and understandably so.  They have no means of removing the snow and ice.  And all of us from WNY know all too well snow's easy.  Ice?  Not so much. 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

12 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

I have a good friend in GA who told me they freak out when it snows there and understandably so.  They have no means of removing the snow and ice.  And all of us from WNY know all too well snow's easy.  Ice?  Not so much. 

 

...same with Seattle due to the city terrain.....virtual shutdown for 1-2 inches.....we still get our regularly expected 110"+ in Roch-Cha-Cha.....MAJOR ice?....1991 I was without power for 9 days.....2003 was not that bad............

[3rdnlng]

47 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

I have a good friend in GA who told me they freak out when it snows there and understandably so.  They have no means of removing the snow and ice.  And all of us from WNY know all too well snow's easy.  Ice?  Not so much. 

Snow and ice is like comparing apples to pipe wrenches. 

53 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

....and they're STILL "in the dark"....SMH............

3. West Coast Blackout (1982)

High winds were the cause of this major blackout along the coast of the Western United States. On December 22, these winds knocked a key transmission tower into a line tower causing 3 other towers to fail. More problems occurred when communication issues prevented control instructions from being passed along to workers. Even backup plans failed due to the fact that equipment wasn?t configured to handle such an incredible failure.

It was estimated that around 2 million businesses and homes went without electricity during the blackout, affecting people in San Fransisco and San Diego and all the way to Las Vegas, Nevada.

I have no recollection of this and I lived in Ventura at the time.

[GG]

41 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...same with Seattle due to the city terrain.....virtual shutdown for 1-2 inches.....

They also don't use salt.  

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

2 minutes ago, GG said:

They also don't use salt.  

 

...probably sand instead..............

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

15 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Snow and ice is like comparing apples to pipe wrenches. 

I have no recollection of this and I lived in Ventura at the time.

 

 

...interesting...pretty sure Trump did it so there should have been MAJOR MSM coverage.....................

[KD in CA]

2 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Ahhhhhh finally.  Nice and warm.  

100 in Mill Valley yesterday!

 

I love when it gets warm.

[Chef Jim]

2 hours ago, 3rdnlng said:

Snow and ice is like comparing apples to pipe wrenches. 

 

Yes and they put the chains on for the ice not the snow. 

[3rdnlng]

42 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

Yes and they put the chains on for the ice not the snow. 

Au contraire, I was there and it wasn't an ice storm, it was a dusting of snow.

[Deranged Rhino]