greeneblitz Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just look at Andrew Lucks NFL numbers, he proves the point more than any other, he's a awesome player with almost no help around him, under constant pressure with little weapons and his completion percentage was way low compared to college where he had tons of talent around him, that's Josh Allen in college in a nutshell, pocket often collapsed, no NFL level receivers catching the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 22 minutes ago, Irv said: Answer his question Are you guys being purposely obtuse? Yes completion pct is calculated the same. But 1980's football is a completely different sport to 2018. You're probably one of the jokers who think Bob Cousy would match up well with Russell Westbrook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 22 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: Are you guys being purposely obtuse? Yes completion pct is calculated the same. But 1980's football is a completely different sport to 2018. You're probably one of the jokers who think Bob Cousy would match up well with Russell Westbrook. That's a terrible analogy. The players on both sides of the ball: Then: Average height 6'2" Average weight 220 Average speed 4.6 Now: Average height 6'4" Average weight 240 Average speed 4.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/matthew-stafford-1.html Staffords college stats 57% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 hour ago, phypon said: So you're saying that Allen is a HOF'er??? Please pass the magic 8 ball. Great point! Your reading comprehension needs improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickleyjones Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 4 hours ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: Football has changed 8 times since then genius. Try to keep up. 8 times? interesting...i have never heard that before. care to elaborate? 47 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/matthew-stafford-1.html Staffords college stats 57% yeah but that was 3 footballs ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 5 hours ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: This man is so dense light bends around him Of course! The eventual insult when somebody runs out of ammunition in terms of logical argument. OK, genius, tell all of us here how the importance of completion percentage is different now than it was when Kelly was our quarterback. Spell it out. Defend yourself on this point. Consider it a dare!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 5 hours ago, Jay_Fixit said: Couple things.. Comparing college stats from 30 years ago is hilare. And I see a guy in Kelly who improved each year. Something Allen didn’t do.. Some popular excuses why. I don’t believe these but here’s what’s been put out there: - he was playing in the “winter” elements - he lost all of his talent to the NFL - the talent last year wasn’t good - Wyoming was a run first offense and threw a lot of low percentage deep passes - not a lot of high percentage passes in his offense Did I miss any? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 5 hours ago, mannc said: It’s directly relevant. The Anti-Allen gang contends that (1) Sub-60% completion in college equals NFL failure, and (2) QBs with poor “accuracy” (as measured by completion percentage, apparently) can never improve. The Kelly and Favre college stats seem to directly contradict both points. The burden on is on you to show why those stats don’t mean anything. Just saying “they’re old” doesn’t cut it. Don’t forget Dan Marino 56% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiz Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, greeneblitz said: Just look at Andrew Lucks NFL numbers, he proves the point more than any other, he's a awesome player with almost no help around him, under constant pressure with little weapons and his completion percentage was way low compared to college where he had tons of talent around him, that's Josh Allen in college in a nutshell, pocket often collapsed, no NFL level receivers catching the ball. Wyoming's rushing game was putrid. 3.2 ypc! Allen WAS their offense. RUSHING Yards Gained 1733 Yards Lost 319 Attempts 446 Average Per Attempt 3.2 Avg. Per Game 108.8 Touchdowns 13 Total 1414 Edited April 27, 2018 by Wiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 hours ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: Are you guys being purposely obtuse? Yes completion pct is calculated the same. But 1980's football is a completely different sport to 2018. You're probably one of the jokers who think Bob Cousy would match up well with Russell Westbrook. How bout Magic Jonson ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, Putin said: How bout Magic Jonson ? All time great but in this era he'd be a bigger John Salmons lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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