26CornerBlitz Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: Now you're just being catty. It's not an all-or-nothing proposition. I was strictly responding to your comment that, where a quarterback is concerned, the team should aim higher than a decent NFL starter. That tells me you either don't want them to draft a QB, or you somehow, magically know what literally no one else in the world knows, which is that one of these college quarterbacks is a lock to be a great NFL starter. Catty. You are a funny dude. They very well should aim higher and they are. You stated that no one knows whether any of the 2018 QB prospects will even be decent starters as if teams aren't going to rely on their respective scouting staffs to make assessments. No one said any of them are locks, but there are at least a few that project to be more than what Nick Foles has shown at the NFL level despite you feelings for him. Edited April 17, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Catty. You are a funny dude. They very well should aim higher and they are. You stated that no one knows whether any of the 2018 QB prospects will even be decent starters as if teams aren't going to rely on their respective scouting staffs to make assessments. No one said any of them are locks, but there are at least a few that project to be more than what Nick Foles has shown at the NFL level despite you feelings for him. They project to be more than a SB MVP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 Just now, LABillzFan said: They project to be more than a SB MVP? Does he play at that level on a consistent basis? The easy answer is no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I’d like to give him that opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Bobby Hooks said: I’d like to give him that opportunity. I'd like to pass and draft our own QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Catty. You are a funny dude. They very well should aim higher and they are. You stated that no one knows whether any of the 2018 QB prospects will even be decent starters as if teams aren't going to rely on their respective scouting staffs to make assessments. No one said any of them are locks, but there are at least a few that project to be more than what Nick Foles has shown at the NFL level despite ...sure he's racked up some "NFL frequent flyer miles" bouncing around and even contemplated retirement....maybe his Eagles landing was the perfect storm with coaches, surrounding players, scheme, etc......or...he's "one and done" from the penthouse to the outhouse.......Shaub had "flashes and crashes" post Atlanta.......Kolb was a hot commodity that 'Zona signed.....same result.....Bflo signed 'em to ALL CRASHES......should make the Foles debate as clear as the QB draft debate......uh oh........ Edited April 17, 2018 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's friend Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: first two years of playing he put up nearly exactly Wentz numbers; over his first three years he was equally outstanding. Moved into the vortex of Fisher's black hole and then to KC. Not my cup of tea, but he can play ball. Period. 7 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Does he play at that level on a consistent basis? The easy answer is no. His first three years in the NFL he was fine. You are going to hold it against him that he was playing for Jeff Fisher? Ask Jared Goff how that goes. Comes back to Philly and all he does is win three straight post season games. Consistent enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 36 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: I'll never pretend to be a scout, but you said the team should aim higher than a decent NFL starter, and literally NO ONE knows if any of these college guys will ever be a decent NFL starter. No one knows. No one. If your high aim is for someone who will be more than a decent starter, Foles has video and history; a greater assurance of a high rate of return over any of the draft picks. I'd be fine with them sending the Eagles the #22 pick for Foles and keeping all other picks including next years picks. My favorite QB in this draft is Lamar Jackson, but I do realize that it might take a couple years for him to get to the Foles stage of NFL proficiency. So a more immediate success approach might be to roll with this years Super Bowl MVP for four or five years, keep the high draft picks and build a very good team. The list of team needs has reached the danger zone and this team would still have picks #12, #53, #56, #65 to help fill those needs. I'm sure Foles being traded to the Bills is still a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 minute ago, 1billsfan said: I'd be fine with them sending the Eagles the #22 pick for Foles and keeping all other picks including next years picks. My favorite QB in this draft is Lamar Jackson, but I do realize that it might take a couple years for him to get to the Foles stage of NFL proficiency. So a more immediate success approach might be to roll with this years Super Bowl MVP for four or five years, keep the high draft picks and build a very good team. The list of team needs has reached the danger zone and this team would still have picks #12, #53, #56, #65 to help fill those needs. I'm sure Foles being traded to the Bills is still a possibility. Why are you sure of this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I cannot believe he is going to stay with the Eagles and not hold out for more money. If he is not traded after the draft I will be amazed, if he stays with the Eagles and plays under that contract I will flip my lid. If I remember correctly his deal voids after this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 He has Miami written all over him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) 49 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I'd like to pass and draft our own QB. Sure, ideally. But if we can’t get one of the top guys I’d prefer Foles to anyone else. Plus then he opens up the draft a lot. Bpa all over the place. Maybe we have a deal in place if we can’t get to top of the draft to trade for Foles. Edited April 17, 2018 by Bobby Hooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 Just now, Bobby Hooks said: Sure, ideally. But if we can’t get one of the top guys I’d prefer Foles to anyone else. Plus then hen he opens up the draft a lot. Bpa all over the place. I'd take any one among the top five over him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I'd take any one among the top five over him. If you have Allen in there I’d have to strongly disagree. I’d prefer Foles and a whole lot of bpa than Allen and our current team. I’d roll the dice on Jackson provided we don’t trade up for him. Edited April 17, 2018 by Bobby Hooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, H2o said: I still think he could be our plan B if we can't get our hands on a QB we want in the draft. Would I like that? Nope, but it may be in the cards. Agreed. I would rather see a move for Foles than reach for a guy just because. Pick 22 may be better spent on Foles than mason rudolph, for example. Edited April 17, 2018 by MDFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said: If you have Allen in there I’d have to strongly disagree. I’d prefer Foles and a whole lot of bpa than Allen and our current team. I don't think you'll get your preference of Foles. I'd take a shot on Allen over Foles too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I don't think you'll get your preference of Foles. I'd take a shot on Allen over Foles too. I wouldn’t bet against anything these days. If free agency is any indication the draft will be crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said: I wouldn’t bet against anything these days. If free agency is any indication the draft will be crazy. The free agent QBs are part of the reason why Foles is still in Philly. Teams chose that route for no compensation instead of trading for him at the Eagles' high price. Edited April 17, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 17 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: The free agent QBs are part of the reason why Foles is still in Philly. Teams chose that route for no compensation instead of trading for him at the Eagles' high price. That doesn't mean a lot because he would have been one of the top signees if he was a FA. There was no action on him because Eagles demanded a ransom, and the new team would have to bump up his pay to market. No one is going to do that ahead of the draft. The situation will change in June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 Just now, GG said: That doesn't mean a lot because he would have been one of the top signees if he was a FA. There was no action on him because Eagles demanded a ransom, and the new team would have to bump up his pay to market. No one is going to do that ahead of the draft. The situation will change in June. He wasn't then and he won't be in June. Teams have already made their QB starter choices for 18 and it makes no sense from the Eagles perspective to trade him with Wentz uncertain for week 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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