#34fan Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) It ain't no secret that I think the Bills NEED Da'ron Payne in Rd 1... However, like Yoda said, "there is another"... Tim Settle 6'3" 335lbs of "no fun if you're the opposing QB". Reminds me a little of Vince Wilfork... Players like this are the reason trading both our 2nd picks bums me out... Can you Imagine a D-line featuring both Payne AND Settle? That'd be something no one would want to face... Like most D-Tackle prospects, He could use a little coaching as far as technique and hand placement... Perhaps a few months on the Atkins diet as well... Other than that, However, there's serious stud potential here... I think there's a chance he lasts 'til 56 (because of the weight issue.) Tim Settle Highlights Scouting breakdown Edited April 4, 2018 by #34fan
Buffalo Bills Detective Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 Which of these brings you closer to a championship: a franchise QB or a defensive tackle? 1
jjmac Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 Do you need to draft a QB in the early 1st round in order to have a franchise QB? Jim Kelly: Pick #14-right in the middle of a then 28-team league Dan Marino: Pick #27 of the same draft Brett Favre, Drew Brees: 2nd round Joe Montana:3rd round Tom Brady: 6th round, pick #199 My point is that you can draft a QB outside of the first round, develop him, surround him with talent, and install the right system, and he can be a franchise QB. On the other hand, how many 1st-round QBs have been draft busts? JeMarcus Russell, Todd Marinovich, EJ Manuel, JP Losman, Ryan Leaf, just to name a few. 1
Virgil Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 On 4/4/2018 at 12:36 PM, Buffalo Bills Detective said: Which of these brings you closer to a championship: a franchise QB or a defensive tackle? Expand Holy **** man. How are you possibly turning that post into something about a QB? Take the agenda somewhere else and let the man talk about his DT On 4/4/2018 at 2:04 PM, jjmac said: Do you need to draft a QB in the early 1st round in order to have a franchise QB? Jim Kelly: Pick #14-right in the middle of a then 28-team league Dan Marino: Pick #27 of the same draft Brett Favre, Drew Brees: 2nd round Joe Montana:3rd round Tom Brady: 6th round, pick #199 My point is that you can draft a QB outside of the first round, develop him, surround him with talent, and install the right system, and he can be a franchise QB. On the other hand, how many 1st-round QBs have been draft busts? JeMarcus Russell, Todd Marinovich, EJ Manuel, JP Losman, Ryan Leaf, just to name a few. Expand Please don’t feed the trolls
Royale with Cheese Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 On 4/4/2018 at 12:36 PM, Buffalo Bills Detective said: Which of these brings you closer to a championship: a franchise QB or a defensive tackle? Expand Would you be happy if this forum was strictly QB threads? No other position can be talked about?
Wsam4031 Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 On 4/4/2018 at 2:04 PM, jjmac said: Do you need to draft a QB in the early 1st round in order to have a franchise QB? Jim Kelly: Pick #14-right in the middle of a then 28-team league Dan Marino: Pick #27 of the same draft Brett Favre, Drew Brees: 2nd round Joe Montana:3rd round Tom Brady: 6th round, pick #199 My point is that you can draft a QB outside of the first round, develop him, surround him with talent, and install the right system, and he can be a franchise QB. On the other hand, how many 1st-round QBs have been draft busts? JeMarcus Russell, Todd Marinovich, EJ Manuel, JP Losman, Ryan Leaf, just to name a few. Expand No you definitely don't have to draft one early ion the first round but when you do you increase your chances of getting a franchise qb. Look at the numbers and percentage of success rate and high first round qbs are a lot better than a flier on a 3rd -6th rd qb qbs bills drafted not in the top 10 since Kelley Collins rd 2 Jp rd 1 Edwards rd 3 Levi Brown rd 7 ej rd 1 cardale rd 4 Peterman rd 5 We have picked all over the place except top 10 and haven't hit yet
jjmac Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 On 4/4/2018 at 2:53 PM, Wsam4031 said: No you definitely don't have to draft one early ion the first round but when you do you increase your chances of getting a franchise qb. Look at the numbers and percentage of success rate and high first round qbs are a lot better than a flier on a 3rd -6th rd qb qbs bills drafted not in the top 10 since Kelley Collins rd 2 Jp rd 1 Edwards rd 3 Levi Brown rd 7 ej rd 1 cardale rd 4 Peterman rd 5 We have picked all over the place except top 10 and haven't hit yet Expand Is that a result of poor drafting, poor coaching, or both?
Luxy312 Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 If they don't get a DT in the first round, he might be an interesting pick at 53 or 56. I like his measurables and his size and I don't think that Kyle Williams plays beyond this year. I'm also uncertain if Adolphus Washington is good enough to be anything more than a spell player. Settle is huge physically; only a sophomore; and extremely explosive. He might have as much upside as any of the DT's coming out this year.
John from Riverside Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 On 4/4/2018 at 12:36 PM, Buffalo Bills Detective said: Which of these brings you closer to a championship: a franchise QB or a defensive tackle? Expand I dont know why dont you tell us....it might make you one step closer to actually giving some personal opinion (for once)
Wsam4031 Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 On 4/4/2018 at 5:43 PM, jjmac said: Is that a result of poor drafting, poor coaching, or both? Expand all of the above plus settling on guys. That's why im advocating moving up. Higher hit rate in the top 5 for qbs
seven&nine Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 Not sure why these threads always come back to QB... I'll throw a vote in against taking Settle. His measurables are terrible and he's not exactly the prospect his highlights show. This is what Joe Ledyard from NDT has to say about him; Quote We were all lied to by multiple sources on Tim Settle, told that the 330-pounder would test like a crazy athlete for his size at the Combine when in reality he’s one of the worst athletes we’ve ever seen at the position, per mockdraftable.com. Settle is constantly on the ground on tape, his block recognition and hand usage is poor, and even before his abysmal Combine performance, I had him slated as a mid day three talent. That’s back when he was getting first round hype from a number of outlets, when the reality is that Settle is a lot closer to being undraftable than he is to being a top 100 value. Expand Here's the mockdraftable breakdown that he mentions.
Buffalo Bills Detective Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 On 4/4/2018 at 7:16 PM, seven&nine said: Not sure why these threads always come back to QB... I'll throw a vote in against taking Settle. His measurables are terrible and he's not exactly the prospect his highlights show. This is what Joe Ledyard from NDT has to say about him; Here's the mockdraftable breakdown that he mentions. Expand Because, it's the most important position in football, and the Bills don't have one. That's why.
seven&nine Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 On 4/4/2018 at 7:26 PM, Buffalo Bills Detective said: Because, it's the most important position in football, and the Bills don't have one. That's why. Expand I get it. I really do. But this is a thread about a DT prospect and the OP never mentioned anything about QBs. Plenty of threads already have pretty much every opinion covered.
#34fan Posted April 4, 2018 Author Posted April 4, 2018 On 4/4/2018 at 7:16 PM, seven&nine said: Not sure why these threads always come back to QB... I'll throw a vote in against taking Settle. His measurables are terrible and he's not exactly the prospect his highlights show. This is what Joe Ledyard from NDT has to say about him; Here's the mockdraftable breakdown that he mentions. Expand Big deal... -He didn't blow anyone away at the combine... Here's what Scott Bischoff at NDT had to say, with film to back it up. Tim Settle, NDT scouting
Pete Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 Hercules is my dude. I would like to see him become Kyle Williams protege
Buffalo Bills Detective Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 On 4/4/2018 at 8:03 PM, Pete said: Hercules is my dude. I would like to see him become Kyle Williams protege Expand Imagine Hercules having dinner every night with Kyle and LAMAR JACKSON!!!!!
Pete Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 On 4/4/2018 at 8:15 PM, Buffalo Bills Detective said: Imagine Hercules having dinner every night with Kyle and LAMAR JACKSON!!!!! Expand I love it. I imagine that Vander Esch and/or Dante Pettis and/or Will Hernandez might be accompany them
Buffalo Bills Detective Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 On 4/4/2018 at 8:19 PM, Pete said: I love it. I imagine that Vander Esch and/or Dante Pettis and/or Will Hernandez might be accompany them Expand I take it Jackson will be in the shotgun the whole time and will take off and run when Pettis isn't open on his first read?
Recommended Posts