dollars 2 donuts Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) This has been the case for a bit, but even heading into work this morning from listening to both WGR and NFL Radio various NYG commentators and/or fans were commenting on how bad the OL was, but the conclusion really seemed to be that they should stick with getting a QB. ON GR the guy talked about not being "cute" when it comes to trading down, but how about being smart? For the love of all things football a trade with the Bills for the 2nd overall pick would give them a total of 7 of the first 66 guys taken in this year's draft. I know they wouldn't do this, but you could honestly replace your entire offensive line in one season and still get a quality RB to make a run for the last 2 or 3 of Eli's career. On NFL Radio, I believe, the caller was mentioning that of all the problems he thought the Giants had this year, Eli was not one of them, and that Flowers is a disaster. I have been getting anxious since last night that the Bills may not be able to move up to get one of the top 2 QBs. However, I just don't know how the Gmen, or even the Colts, pass up 4 guys in the top 65. This isn't a QB thread for the Bills, it's about the logic (or illogic) of other teams passing on what the Bills have to offer. Edited March 13, 2018 by dollars 2 donuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 12 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: This has been the case for a bit, but even heading into work this morning from listening to both WGR and NFL Radio various NYG commentators and/or fans were commenting on how bad the OL was, but the conclusion really seemed to be that they should stick with getting a QB. ON GR the guy talked about not being "cute" when it comes to trading down, but how about being smart? For the love of all things football a trade with the Bills for the 2nd overall pick would give them a total of 7 of the first 66 guys taken in this year's draft. I know they wouldn't do this, but you could honestly replace your entire offensive line in one season and still get a quality RB to make a run for the last 2 or 3 of Eli's career. On NFL Radio, I believe, the caller was mentioning that of all the problems he thought the Giants had this year, Eli was not one of them, and that Flowers is a disaster. I have been getting anxious since last night that the Bills may not be able to move up to get one of the top 2 QBs. However, I just don't know how the Gmen, or even the Colts, pass up 4 guys in the top 65. This isn't a QB thread for the Bills, it's about the logic (or illogic) of other teams passing on what the Bills have to offer. it would make a lot of sense for the G men to trade down, get some help on the O Line and make another run or two with Eli. The problem as I see it is that the media gets so whipped into a frenzy over QB prospects, and that since the giants arent usually drafting this high, that it makes sense to grab the next franchise QB. I hope and assume the Giants FO dont read the post or listen to sports radio, but if they do that's the messaging in the city now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, dorquemada said: it would make a lot of sense for the G men to trade down, get some help on the O Line and make another run or two with Eli. The problem as I see it is that the media gets so whipped into a frenzy over QB prospects, and that since the giants arent usually drafting this high, that it makes sense to grab the next franchise QB. I hope and assume the Giants FO dont read the post or listen to sports radio, but if they do that's the messaging in the city now Great points, Dorq. However, can't they also prep the protection now and potentially get a QB either this year or next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 10 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: Great points, Dorq. However, can't they also prep the protection now and potentially get a QB either this year or next year? the gamble for them is missing out on one of the top guys at QB. personally, and the giants are my second team, so i do follow them, i'd rather see them build around Eli, and take a later round QB to develop for a couple years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, dorquemada said: the gamble for them is missing out on one of the top guys at QB. personally, and the giants are my second team, so i do follow them, i'd rather see them build around Eli, and take a later round QB to develop for a couple years. Davis Webb must not be very highly thought of by the new regime. I figured he would be their developmental QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's friend Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Situation in NYC just got a TON worse. They lost Richeborg and didn't get Norwell. I would guess they would want to sit pat at #2 and draft can't miss (LMAO) Nelson at 2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said: Situation in NYC just got a TON worse. They lost Richeborg and didn't get Norwell. I would guess they would want to sit pat at #2 and draft can't miss (LMAO) Nelson at 2. Yep. As my name states, I live in southern NY. My Giants buddy wants Nelson at #2 or a QB. The Giants fans I know (there are plenty) are legit melting down right now. It's glorious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said: Situation in NYC just got a TON worse. They lost Richeborg and didn't get Norwell. I would guess they would want to sit pat at #2 and draft can't miss (LMAO) Nelson at 2. 6 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: Yep. As my name states, I live in southern NY. My Giants buddy wants Nelson at #2 or a QB. The Giants fans I know (there are plenty) are legit melting down right now. It's glorious. Sorry, I forgot to mention that in my OT as I did also hear it as I was leaving the parking lot. Honestly, if they trade with us Giants fans truly should be thrilled. If I were in their position I would, even if they wanted to trade away a few of those picks for next year. 5 in the first 3 rounds this year as well as 5 in the first 3 rounds in next year's draft would be pretty impressive. Edited March 13, 2018 by dollars 2 donuts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 The Giants are in a tough spot. Not much cap space. Only a few draft picks. Basically 1 starter on the o-line, and changing form a 4-3 to a 3-4. Trade down makes sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: Sorry, I forgot to mention that in my OT as I did also hear it as I was leaving the parking lot. Honestly, if they trade with us Giants fans truly should be thrilled. If I were in their position I would, even if they wanted to trade away a few of those picks for next year. 5 in the first 3 rounds this year as well as 5 in the first 3 rounds in next year's draft would be pretty impressive. 4 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: The Giants are in a tough spot. Not much cap space. Only a few draft picks. Basically 1 starter on the o-line, and changing form a 4-3 to a 3-4. Trade down makes sense. Agree with both of you 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 nobody drafts a G at #2. The Giants would most definitley be open to moving back to 12 if they target Norwell IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's friend Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, ddaryl said: nobody drafts a G at #2. The Giants would most definitley be open to moving back to 12 if they target Norwell IMO. No way Quinton falls that far. Personally I'm not that high on the guy, but he'll be drafted in top 9 easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Tyrod's friend said: No way Quinton falls that far. Personally I'm not that high on the guy, but he'll be drafted in top 9 easy. anything is possible.. but I still doubt it. Guards never get drafted top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, ddaryl said: anything is possible.. but I still doubt it. Guards never get drafted top 10. And if they trade down, you're looking at minimum 3 QBs and Barkley in the top 10 Somebody will draft a wr and a DL as always I could see him go to 9-12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 They aren't having a good morning. Unless they re-sign Pugh, they have gotten remarkably worse on the OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 7 hours ago, N.Y. Orangeman said: They aren't having a good morning. Unless they re-sign Pugh, they have gotten remarkably worse on the OL. Honestly, NYO, trading with us should be a no brainier for them. 7...7 out of the first 66 they'd have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I think that why they'd be open to trading the #2. Those draft picks could go a long way in helping their O-Line and D-Line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasNootz Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 What if Cleveland traded up from four to the giants number two? Cleveland could then take Barkley and the quarterback of their choice to sit behind Tyrod. The Giants could still take Nelson at four or trade back further for another team to get Qb 3 and probably pick up a pair of clevelands 2nd and 3rds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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