Kirby Jackson Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: 1 more first down per game is one more drive extended per game. Brown's average salary is $17M Green signed a deal with AAV of $15M 3 years ago. Davante Adams plays with Aaron Rodgers and put up JAG numbers and got $14.5M AAV With the cap going up, $15M AAV is not too big of a price. It certainly is for a volume-based possession receiver. Nick O’Leary had more 20 yard receptions last year! You can find guys to move the chains for a lot less. Last year Landry caught 69.6% of his targets, averaged 6.13 yards per target and scored a TD on 5.6% of his targets. Robert Woods caught 65.9% of his targets, averaged 9.19 yards per target and scored a TD on 5.9% of his targets. Landry is not worth double what Woods is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: It certainly is for a volume-based possession receiver. Nick O’Leary had more 20 yard receptions last year! You can find guys to move the chains for a lot less. Last year Landry caught 69.6% of his targets, averaged 6.13 yards per target and scored a TD on 5.6% of his targets. Robert Woods caught 65.9% of his targets, averaged 9.19 yards per target and scored a TD on 5.9% of his targets. Landry is not worth double what Woods is. Woods had the best WR in sports playing opposite him to distract #1 CB's. Also, didn't you say the Rams overpaid Woods once upon a time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: Adam Thielen's deal came after his "fluke" year. Tate's deal came after 4 JAG years with the Hawks. Baldwin's deal came after his first year putting up 1k yards after 4 JAG years. They aren't really comparable. I don't think you're getting it. The point here is very, very simple: you don't need to pay a guy $15M per to do what Landry does; you can find much cheaper options to play that role. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 1 minute ago, thebandit27 said: I don't think you're getting it. The point here is very, very simple: you don't need to pay a guy $15M per to do what Landry does; you can find much cheaper options to play that role. Sure. You can also end up with Andre Holmes and Jordan Matthews as your top 2 WR's too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: Sure. You can also end up with Andre Holmes and Jordan Matthews as your top 2 WR's too. And what happened when Jordan Matthews got over 100 targets? http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/16763/jordan-matthews Odd how similar his production-per-target numbers are to Landry's in those first 3 seasons isn't it? Edited February 26, 2018 by thebandit27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 1 minute ago, thebandit27 said: And what happened when Jordan Matthews got over 100 targets? http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/16763/jordan-matthews Right. "Jordan Matthews can do what Sammy can do way cheaper!" #2017Things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: Woods had the best WR in sports playing opposite him to distract #1 CB's. Also, didn't you say the Rams overpaid Woods once upon a time? I did say that and still believe it. I pulled him out as a random example. Landry’s success is a product of targets not playmaking ability. 3 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: And what happened when Jordan Matthews got over 100 targets? http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/16763/jordan-matthews 1 minute ago, jmc12290 said: Right. "Jordan Matthews can do what Sammy can do way cheaper!" #2017Things This we can all agree on; Jordan Matthews is not good at football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: Right. "Jordan Matthews can do what Sammy can do way cheaper!" #2017Things Actually, my exact comments from 2017 were that there's not one thing that Matthews can do as well as Sammy, including stay healthy. Guess I was right. And, amazingly, you're still missing the point. Sammy showed with the Rams the exact same traits that he showed here: that he's dominant when he's targeted. He doesn't get the targets for some reason...part of it is that McVay's offense is doing with WRs what Spagnuolo's defense did with pass rushers back in 2007; he's discovered that if he dresses 6 quality WRs and rotates them in bunches, opposing CBs who have to play 70+ snaps per game can't keep up (Spags did this with pass rushers and OTs who have to play 70+ snaps). What has Landry shown? He's shown that he can produce a lot of receptions and mediocre yardage/TD/first down totals if given a glut of targets. Hooray, let's pay him like he's elite. Edited February 26, 2018 by thebandit27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 POS player for a POS franchise. They deserve each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 You two are badgering back and forth yet nobody has mentioned the ridiculously underwhelming, running back-esque 8.8 yards per catch Landry had this last year. That’s a JAG number and a number that should say to a team that “hey gang, I’m not worth this franchise tag money, yo.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeby Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 On 2/20/2018 at 10:18 PM, Misterbluesky said: Not a chance in hell he would be welcomed here after Murphy's comments on the radio during the Miami home game.He punked him good.. What was said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, sleeby said: What was said? Murphy called him trash. Outright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA Grant Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Garbage player all around. In a theoretical league that actually punished cheap shots, Jarvis Landry wouldn't be in it. Hopefully he's traded out of the division, but ideally he's out of the league. to paraphrase one D. DeVito — "Jarvis Landry retire b*tch" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 9 hours ago, Jay_Fixit said: You two are badgering back and forth yet nobody has mentioned the ridiculously underwhelming, running back-esque 8.8 yards per catch Landry had this last year. That’s a JAG number and a number that should say to a team that “hey gang, I’m not worth this franchise tag money, yo.” Nobody mentioned his meager production? Gee, I feel like I said it in every single post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Nobody mentioned his meager production? Gee, I feel like I said it in every single post That would require reading the posts. You expect way too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chicken Boo Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 On 2/26/2018 at 2:59 PM, jmc12290 said: Perception is a funny thing. Landry has averaged more yards, catches and TD's over the last 3 years compared to Alshon. And strikes fear into the heart of no defense. ?What have you done for me lately?? 112 rec. 987 yards That's not worth $16 million, no matter how you slice it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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