SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: He is correct, and you are wrong on several fronts. ARs are very often used for hunting, and they are looking to violate individual's right to bear arms. You have a former Supreme Court Justice opining that it's time to repeal the Second Amendment. You are telling me that people use that ^ to hunt deer, bear and rabbit? Again when the Feds go walking into you home to take your guns away. please PM me and send me photos of it Edited March 28, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 for a liberal cause inflate the crowd size by a million fold for a conservative pretend it never happened, it that doesn't work shrink the estimate to 5% of the honest count rule 23(a) of the Liberal Media guide to agitprop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Just now, ShadyBillsFan said: You are telling me that people use that ^ to hunt deer, bear and rabbit? Again please PM me and send mo photos of the Feds walking into you home to take your guns away. Yes, I am. The fact that you disagree shows a tremendous amount of ignorance about gun ownership, and gun usage to the point that you probably shouldn't opine about it until you've done actual research. As to "walking into my home and taking guns away", that's a red herring. The repeal of the Second Amendment would mean that I no longer would have my right to own arms protected by the government, and without that protected right, could have any and all arms seized at the will of those in power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: You are telling me that people use that ^ to hunt deer, bear and rabbit? Again when the Feds go walking into you home to take your guns away. please PM me and send me photos of it http://time.com/4390506/gun-control-ar-15-semiautomatic-rifles/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Yes, I am. The fact that you disagree shows a tremendous amount of ignorance about gun ownership, and gun usage to the point that you probably shouldn't opine about it until you've done actual research. As to "walking into my home and taking guns away", that's a red herring. The repeal of the Second Amendment would mean that I no longer would have my right to own arms protected by the government, and without that protected right, could have any and all arms seized at the will of those in power. Ignorance? Because I would use a "typical" rifle? The ignorance in not on my part. Don't worry Dearest Donald tweeted that the retired judge is wrong. You are safe. 3 minutes ago, DC Tom said: http://time.com/4390506/gun-control-ar-15-semiautomatic-rifles/ Thanks Tom. When I hunted it was with either a shotgun or a hunting rifle and occasionally my .357 pistol, both long guns adequately served it's purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Ignorance? Because I would use a "typical" rifle? No, ignorance because you didn't know that people do use AR platform rifles to hunt. Not knowing something is, by definition, ignorance of that something. 5 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Thanks Tom. When I hunted it was with either a shotgun or a hunting rifle and occasionally my .357 pistol, both long guns adequately served it's purpose. It's not a matter of adequacy. Despite the old saying, a knife is often adequate in a gun fight, but that's not the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, LeviF91 said: No, ignorance because you didn't know that people do use AR platform rifles to hunt. Not knowing something is, by definition, ignorance of that something. It's not a matter of adequacy. Despite the old saying, a knife is often adequate in a gun fight, but that's not the point. If you had stated it like Tom did, things would be much simpler than what you actually said. a tremendous amount of ignorance I admit to making mistakes and not knowing everything. But still, however "ignorant" that i am, I don't think they are walking into my home and taking my 3 guns away. Edited March 28, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Thanks Tom. When I hunted it was with either a shotgun or a hunting rifle and occasionally my .357 pistol, both long guns adequately served it's purpose. The NATO 5.56 is little more than a rechambered .223 Remington cartridge, which is the most mass-produced and most popular ammunition in the country, and a very common hunting round (smaller game, mostly...but can be used for game as large as deer.) I don't know why anyone would believe a priori that the AR-15 isn't used as a hunting rifle, when the round commonly is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 26 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: You are telling me that people use that ^ to hunt deer, bear and rabbit? Again when the Feds go walking into you home to take your guns away. please PM me and send me photos of it Oh my God scary gun scary gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Just now, ShadyBillsFan said: If you had stated it like Tom did, things would be much simpler that what you actually said. a tremendous amount of ignorance I admit to making mistakes and not knowing everything. But still, however "ignorant" that i am, I don't think they are walking into my home and taking my 3 guns away. Saying you were ignorant on the topic was not intended as an insult. You were opining on something where you obviously lacked the working knowledge. In general I think people would be better of listening instead of talking in those situations. As to your three guns, if the Second Amendment is repealed you have no protected right to them; and will have given the government all the power they need to come into your home and do exactly that. Please bear in mind that the protection of your rights is what is important here. Once you've surrendered those protections, there is no getting them back once the government has already begun violating your rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 14 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: But still, however "ignorant" that i am, I don't think they are walking into my home and taking my 3 guns away. As Tasker has said, eroding the 2nd Amendment further is not strictly about BATFEces agents walking into my house, shooting my dog, and taking my guns. I'm not saying that armed patrols are out looking for my guns right now. What I'm saying is that further erosion of the 2A is giving the government the power to do just that. Making pro-2A people out to be paranoid lunatics only drives that crowd further into one-issue voting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 12 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Please bear in mind that the protection of your rights is what is important here. And this is why the 'ignorance' label fits. The chuckleheads who point at a particular scary-looking gun and argue "You don't need this to shoot deer!" prove they have no idea what they are arguing about. In a way, I'm happy to see the Hogg child making the rounds. He's the perfect personification of the anti-gun crowd: naive, contradicts himself constantly, and in general is nothing more than a confused Cindy Sheehan with a gayer haircut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, LeviF91 said: As Tasker has said, eroding the 2nd Amendment further is not strictly about BATFEces agents walking into my house, shooting my dog, and taking my guns. I'm not saying that armed patrols are out looking for my guns right now. What I'm saying is that further erosion of the 2A is giving the government the power to do just that. Making pro-2A people out to be paranoid lunatics only drives that crowd further into one-issue voting. Maybe, I am ignorant. But I won't buy into some conspiracy theory that the feds will chase me down for the 3 guns that I own. And living in Virginia I don't have to register them. So the only record any state has is NY and I left there in 1997. Tasker How about you say - Hey Shady you are misinformed. a bit of respect goes a long way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Just now, ShadyBillsFan said: Maybe, I am ignorant. But I won't buy into some conspiracy theory that the feds will chase me down for the 3 guns that I own. And living in Virginia I don't have to register them. So the only record any state has is NY and I left there in 1997. And again, that's not really the point. If you surrender your rights in any way you've given them the power to do whatever they want, which is exactly what the 2A was crafted to prevent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Maybe, I am ignorant. But I won't buy into some conspiracy theory that the feds will chase me down for the 3 guns that I own. Just for fun, specifically who told you the feds will chase you down for the 3 guns you own? Who is making that case? Edited March 28, 2018 by LABillzFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 1 minute ago, LeviF91 said: And again, that's not really the point. If you surrender your rights in any way you've given them the power to do whatever they want, which is exactly what the 2A was crafted to prevent. And it would be the entire point of repealing the Second. There is no other reason to do so. If no one wants to government to take away your guns, then there is no need to repeal the Second, which would give them the authority to do so. 5 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Tasker How about you say - Hey Shady you are misinformed. a bit of respect goes a long way. Saying you are ignorant of something is exactly that. It's not insulting, and is not synonymous with calling a person stupid. It's is synonymous with telling someone they aren't informed on a given topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 I'm glad I don't own any guns to have the feds come knock my door down. Y'all gun huggers are !@#$ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 19 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Maybe, I am ignorant. But I won't buy into some conspiracy theory that the feds will chase me down for the 3 guns that I own. And living in Virginia I don't have to register them. So the only record any state has is NY and I left there in 1997. Tasker How about you say - Hey Shady you are misinformed. a bit of respect goes a long way. Tell that to the Branch Davidians. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 13 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Tell that to the Branch Davidians. Doubt Shady's old enough to remember that OR ruby ridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 8 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Doubt Shady's old enough to remember that OR ruby ridge. or the history of your Native Indian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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