Batman1876 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 You won me over Eric Wood played 4000 consecutive snaps, 100% of the snaps for 56 consecutive games then suffered a non reoccurring injury on a fluke accident. The Bills should have known he was injury prone. That is why the packers will move on from Aaron Rogers this year,he’s old and has had two broken bones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 30, 2018 Author Share Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Batman1876 said: You won me over Eric Wood played 4000 consecutive snaps, 100% of the snaps for 56 consecutive games then suffered a non reoccurring injury on a fluke accident. The Bills should have known he was injury prone. That is why the packers will move on from Aaron Rogers this year,he’s old and has had two broken bones. Apples and Oranges yet again. Again without looking NE and Phillys starting centers One thing is for sure fans would make Horrible GMs they get to emotionally tied to a player. Should have let him play his contract out. You already had a suitable replacement in Groy at 1/4th the cost. With no drop in production from the Position. Edited January 30, 2018 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Apples and Oranges yet again. Cool come back. Guy plays 100% of snaps before a d line man rolls up his leg and you think that he should be seen as injury prone. That is a rediculous take. Especially because that leg injury has nothing to do with his neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 10 hours ago, Teddy KGB said: Donald Jones, ochocinco, Haynesworth etc etc etc Joey Galloway, Leigh Bodden, Shawn Springs, Adailius Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 9 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Apples and Oranges yet again. Again without looking NE and Phillys starting centers One thing is for sure fans would make Horrible GMs they get to emotionally tied to a player. Should have let him play his contract out. You already had a suitable replacement in Groy at 1/4th the cost. With no drop in production from the Position. Wood’s contract was commiserate with his contributions on the field. And even if there were no drop in production, debatable, there would be a noteable drop off in depth on the oline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 30, 2018 Author Share Posted January 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, Batman1876 said: Cool come back. Guy plays 100% of snaps before a d line man rolls up his leg and you think that he should be seen as injury prone. That is a rediculous take. Especially because that leg injury has nothing to do with his neck. Your the one trying to compare a Franchise QB vs a Center. Guy also only finished three full seasons in an 8 year career. 8 minutes ago, Batman1876 said: Wood’s contract was commiserate with his contributions on the field. And even if there were no drop in production, debatable, there would be a noteable drop off in depth on the oline. So INJ guarantees in Next year AFTER giving him a bonus are commiserate with what he did in the field in 2016? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 23 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Apples and Oranges yet again. Again without looking NE and Phillys starting centers One thing is for sure fans would make Horrible GMs they get to emotionally tied to a player. Should have let him play his contract out. You already had a suitable replacement in Groy at 1/4th the cost. With no drop in production from the Position. That they extended Wood makes me think they don't share that sentiment. If they don't add a new center, I hope they were wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 30, 2018 Author Share Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Doc said: That they extended Wood makes me think they don't share that sentiment. If they don't add a new center, I hope they were wrong. Yet they Match a RFA offersheet says they do value Groy. But again the extension isnt to big of a deal (still didnt like it) to me as the structure of it. Edited January 30, 2018 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: Yet they Match a RFA offersheet says they do value Groy. But again the extension isnt to big of a deal (still didnt like it) to me as the structure of it. They matched an offer to keep him as a backup C. Far cry from thinking he was a suitable replacement as a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lothar Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 You say commiserate, I say commensurate. You say tomato, I say tomahto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 9 hours ago, row_33 said: The Pats have built a dynasty off great signings of castoffs and short-term projects, not many are going to the Hall besides #12, 10 years from now most fans won't be able to name 10 players that Brady had around him to win. Yeah, remember in their earlier days they had a mediocre wide receiver named Troy Brown, who always seemed to make big plays? He even volunteered one year to play DB when they had some injuries. Not a great talent but a team player that made contributions to thir success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 30, 2018 Author Share Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Doc said: They matched an offer to keep him as a backup C. Far cry from thinking he was a suitable replacement as a starter. It good. As i said you all liked the extension and think it was smart and good value. I think opposite (specifically the Structure in terms of Guarantees) End of the day paying 8+M against the cap for a player NOT playing for the Buffalo Bills. What a GREAT ROI that is. Edited January 30, 2018 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 11 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Your the one trying to compare a Franchise QB vs a Center. Guy also only finished three full seasons in an 8 year career. So INJ guarantees in Next year AFTER giving him a bonus are commiserate with what he did in the field in 2016? He played at a pro bowl level in 2015, was playing as well in 2016 before suffering a freak injury. Until that freak accident he had the active record for most consecutive starts by a center. So yes the inj guarantee was appropriate. It is standard in veteran contracts unless there is reason to believe that previous injuries pose a risk of future injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Beane's & McDermott's comments post press conference were illuminating. If the contract situation was cut & dried, Wood would be off the roster. But for whatever reasons, he's still on the team despite announcing his retirement, and they went out of the way to say that he's still on the team. I don't recall any other retirements being spun that way. Beane hinted that the reason he's still on the team is for cap reasons, and a reasonable bet is they're negotiating either the guarantee or paying back some of the bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 30, 2018 Author Share Posted January 30, 2018 Just now, Batman1876 said: He played at a pro bowl level in 2015, was playing as well in 2016 before suffering a freak injury. Until that freak accident he had the active record for most consecutive starts by a center. So yes the inj guarantee was appropriate. It is standard in veteran contracts unless there is reason to believe that previous injuries pose a risk of future injuries. 3 years out of 8 he was healthy. Really the aiNJ guarantee was appropriate. What kind of crack is that Just now, GG said: Beane's & McDermott's comments post press conference were illuminating. If the contract situation was cut & dried, Wood would be off the roster. But for whatever reasons, he's still on the team despite announcing his retirement, and they went out of the way to say that he's still on the team. I don't recall any other retirements being spun that way. Beane hinted that the reason he's still on the team is for cap reasons, and a reasonable bet is they're negotiating either the guarantee or paying back some of the bonus. It is cut and dry. They will lose any effort to recoup any money UNLESS they can prove this was a cumulative issue and not caused by a week 5 stinger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: It good. As i said you all liked the extension and think it was smart and good value. I think opposite (specifically the Structure in terms of Guarantees) End of the day paying 8+M against the cap for a player NOT playing for the Buffalo Bills I don't understand the 2018 salary guarantee. That's why I'm not fully convinced that he'll get both the salary and unamortized SB. I know what's been written so I'll just say we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 30, 2018 Author Share Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Doc said: I don't understand the 2018 salary guarantee. That's why I'm not fully convinced that he'll get both the salary and unamortized SB. I know what's been written so I'll just say we'll see. 4.8 Million guaranteed for INJ. He is INJ he gets it. 4.3 bonus was already Paid at signing. So he already got that money Edited January 30, 2018 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 1 minute ago, GG said: Beane's & McDermott's comments post press conference were illuminating. If the contract situation was cut & dried, Wood would be off the roster. But for whatever reasons, he's still on the team despite announcing his retirement, and they went out of the way to say that he's still on the team. I don't recall any other retirements being spun that way. Beane hinted that the reason he's still on the team is for cap reasons, and a reasonable bet is they're negotiating either the guarantee or paying back some of the bonus. I don't ever recall a player retiring before the season wass completely over before. And the issue is that the Bills rolled their cap surplus from this year over to next year before Wood decided to retire. They literally can't let him retire now because they'd be over the cap. So they have to carry him until June 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: 3 years out of 8 he was healthy. Really the aiNJ guarantee was appropriate. What kind of crack is that It is cut and dry. They will lose any effort to recoup any money UNLESS they can prove this was a cumulative issue and not caused by a week 5 stinger That's why it's NOT cut and dry. If it was, he'd be off the roster today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 30, 2018 Author Share Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, GG said: That's why it's NOT cut and dry. If it was, he'd be off the roster today. And accelerate 10M in dead Money by waiting to June 1 dead this year is 8M. It is very cut ans dry unless Bills want to fight and say he hid this injury from them when signing the extension here would be the Dead Cap if he announced he is retired Today Spotrac (@spotrac) 1/26/18, 12:38 PM Assuming Eric Wood’s unfortunate neck injury stems from football (likely), the #Bills will also be on the hook for his $4.8M 2018 salary, raising the total dead cap hit to $10,391,668. By waiting until June 1 they reduce that number by 2.1 or making his 2018 dead money 8.2M. Coincidently 2.1M will be roughly the cap hit of pick 21 in this years draft. Edited January 30, 2018 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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