I hope this weekend finally kills the "build an offense around Tyrod" nonsense.

[BadLandsMeanie]

3 hours ago, sleeby said:

Paulbills - or maybe your opinion has something to do with that racist avatar of yours?  Sad.

I see a frog. What don't I know?

[ColoradoBills]

Thanks to everyone who answered my question about your opinion of TT feelings on playing here.

 

Personally, I think the many options must be going thru his head as well.

I like TT as a person but like many here I feel his time has run out in Buffalo.

That being said, if no other good options fall our way ( I say this under the assumption that OBD will do what it can to acquire a QB they feel

will be an improvement to TT's play) I wouldn't jump off a bridge if he had to stay and compete for the starting job.

 

I do feel that if he is here after March, it's not going to benefit the Bills long term or TT for that matter.

Interesting day surely lie ahead!

[twoandfourteen]

7 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Oy

 

Look at your title, dude. I was responding to your title there in antithesis.

 

Did you just not realize the fact that your title directly says 4 games this weekend were proof or are you just a gigantic hypocrite?

 

I wrote I hope this weekend "finally kills the...."

 

I used the word "finally" to imply that the games from this past weekend in addition to the overwhelming mountain of evidence that already exists from the past few years would be enough for people to realize that Tyrod Taylor isn't a "QB you can win with" who just "needs an offense built around his strengths", etc, etc, etc. 

 

So to answer your question: no, I am not a giant hypocrite. I am however, absolutely correct -- as always. 

[transplantbillsfan]

3 minutes ago, twoandfourteen said:

 

I wrote I hope this weekend "finally kills the...."

 

I used the word "finally" to imply that the games from this past weekend in addition to the overwhelming mountain of evidence that already exists from the past few years would be enough for people to realize that Tyrod Taylor isn't a "QB you can win with" who just "needs an offense built around his strengths", etc, etc, etc. 

 

So to answer your question: no, I am not a giant hypocrite. I am however, absolutely correct -- as always.

 

 

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

 

Okay, Crusher

[twoandfourteen]

52 minutes ago, starrymessenger said:

I agree that building an offence around Tyrod would not be a good idea. But that's basically only because Tyrod isn't good enuf to get the amount of upside that would justify dedicating resources to such a project. Doesn't mean that it wouldn't make sense to do that for another QB who had special ability and a more diversified skillset ie one who processes information more quickly, sees the field better and who had better mechanics. Houston's offence was successfully retooled to accommodate Watson's skills. The Bill's have said however that they don't want a QB who is scheme dependant. This maybe is a clue to the type of QB they may be looking to draft.

I do think its possible that there is racial animus in the way at least certain evaluators approach the draft. An example of that imo can be seen in the often encountered opinion that Lamar Jackson should consider transitioning from QB to WR.

 

One of the smartest points I've seen yet. 

 

Taylor to Houston is without a doubt the best place for both the player and the team -- he's a perfect fit to backup and mentor Watson. I really hope that's where he ends up, because I do think it's a perfect setup for him at this point in his career, and I'd like to see him do well in that situation. 

 

As far as the racial angle, I suppose it's possible -- but is it because of the color of his skin or because of the physical skill set the player possesses? Nobody suggested to Byron Leftwich to switch to WR, because he was a big, strong-armed pocket passer who ultimately went on to have a nice long NFL career. However, the Patriots made Julian Edelman, a white guy, switch to WR, and it was the best thing he could have done for his career. Now, obviously Jackson is a much better QB talent than Edelman, but if race were the driving factor -- then the actual skills wouldn't matter, only the respective skin colors. 

 

 

9 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

 

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

 

Okay, Crusher

 

You have yet to show me or the rest of the class otherwise. 

 

 

[twoandfourteen]

4 hours ago, Young34 said:

If I was Tyrod, I'd walk, regardless of what was offered. That being said, he's probably not going to get a starting role in the league, but he could find backup work on a team of his choice, I'm sure.

 

He was benched for Peterman one week, then called on to start again, leading the Bills to the playoffs for the first time in almost two decades. He had a bad game against the top defense in the league first round, and everyone is again calling for his head. I'd be out in a hot second, because he's not appreciated by a majority of Bills fans. We might of well had Ryan Leaf leading this offense in their eyes.

 

Grass isn't always greener. The fact that we've been through a ton of QB's in the last two decades proves that. First one to take us to the playoffs with a solid W:L record is being chased out of town.

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_int_perc_single_season.htm

 

Me too. There are better situations for him at this point in his career -- backing up Watson in Houston would be a great fit. Great WRs and an offense built for his skill set. 

 

3 games above .500 is a "solid" w/l record? 

 

Also, let's play "Find Tyrod": http://pfref.com/tiny/Naycx

 

That interception % isn't quite as impressive when you consider how little he actually accomplishes when he does throw the football. 

[sleeby]

2 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

Sorry, Rangers are going all the way this year.  Pitchers and catchers report in 1 month.

 

Well, the Astros just added another starter and they might have something to say to the both of us about this.  Heh.  

[sleeby]

1 hour ago, BadLandsMeanie said:

I see a frog. What don't I know?

 

It's pepe the frog which is the current white supremacy icon.  Picture a swastika under a bill's helmet more or less.  "Hatred is baggage."  

 

 

Edited January 16, 2018 by sleeby

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

7 hours ago, Lfod said:

I think you can be supportive of Tyrod. I just hope you understand that the offense was kind of a joke this year. So naturally Tyrod is gonna shoulder the blame.

 

I understand that the delivery of peoples thoughts on Tyrod can be harsh. I know you want to defend a guy you support. 

 

I have reasons why I would want Tyrod to not be the QB next year. It's because I don't believe his side of the ball earned the right to go to the Playoffs with the defense. Even when they got to tag along riding on the backs of the defense they put up 3 points in another game the defence handed to them so they could drop out.

 

The offense has had a tendency to not score points. I don't feel I'm a bad guy for feeling that way. It could be I am blaming Taylor for everything but bros I never seen him light it up this year enough to interested in another try. Even with all the excuses you could afford him.

 

I could be wrong. It might be possible every excuse is the reason and Tyrod is the man. I just seen enough personally to not give it another try. If you believe Tyrod is the man and a 10-3 exit from the Playoffs is excusable then we just disagree and that is fine.

 

Look Tyrod is a fine back up. He's proven he can come in and manage a few games enough to win. He's the elite of back up quarter backs even in my view.

I agree with everything you said with the exception that Taylor is a elite backup. Elite backups get traded for 1st and 2nd rd draft picks, Taylor wouldn't even command a 6th rd pick.

[BadLandsMeanie]

12 minutes ago, sleeby said:

 

It's pepe the frog which is the current white supremacy icon.  Picture a swastika under a bill's helmet more or less.  "Hatred is baggage."  

 

 

Thank you. I just read the wiki on him. It isn't as straightforward as that, but I do see what you mean.

Actually that whole wiki article and the detail about the variety of permutations and meanings given to that not so well drawn frog, are unsettling to me. People are much weirder than I think they are I guess. 

 

[Lfod]

37 minutes ago, BadLandsMeanie said:

Thank you. I just read the wiki on him. It isn't as straightforward as that, but I do see what you mean.

Actually that whole wiki article and the detail about the variety of permutations and meanings given to that not so well drawn frog, are unsettling to me. People are much weirder than I think they are I guess. 

 

If you take for example Buddhist Swastika has a different meaning then the Nazi Swastika. Basically the same exact symbol but holding different meaning.

 

Pepe the frog went though the same transition as the Buddhist Swastika. 

Edited January 16, 2018 by Lfod

[reddogblitz]

50 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

I agree with everything you said with the exception that Taylor is a elite backup. Elite backups get traded for 1st and 2nd rd draft picks, Taylor wouldn't even command a 6th rd pick.

 

Like who for example?

[sleeby]

Well, neverminding the odd history of the cartoon image - anyone aware of and using pepe to self identify today is a white supremacist bigot.  Sad for the original artist and all but there it is.  

[BadLandsMeanie]

19 minutes ago, Lfod said:

If you take for example Buddhist Swastika has a different meaning then the Nazi Swastika. Basically the same exact symbol but holding different meaning.

 

Pepe the frog went though the same transition as the Buddhist Swastika. 

Very interesting comparison. Thanks

[xRUSHx]

7 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Once again I agree with your entire Tyrod take.

 

I will ask you your opinion (others please comment) about a question no one seems to ask.

There is a lot of debate about TT staying for 1 more year, what do posters think Tyrod Taylor's opinion is?

 

If you were TT would you want to stay 1 more year or enter the FA knowing this is going to be one of the greatest QB/Team carousels in history.

 

I personally think TT does not want to be here anymore, especially if he knows it's only for 1 year. 

IMO Nobody is going to pay him what the Bills will be paying him this coming year so yes he will gladly stay for that kind of money for one year IMO. I don't think he wants to stay after throwing his race interview out there but $$$ talks at this time of his career so IMO it is all up to OBD if he stays. He is also under contract so he has no choice. If it was my choice he would have been gone with Rex.

[MJS]

On 1/14/2018 at 3:52 PM, LA Grant said:

 

If we were the Jags, there'd be countless threads like "Blake Bortles still can't throw for 300 yards! We're never going to win with him!"

 

That's because Bortles sucks. Their entire offense is designed so that he is as small a factor as possible.

 

If the Jags win the Superbowl, I bet they still try to find a new QB. If the Bills would have won the Superbowl, I bet they would too.

 

Because both QB's are not good enough. You want a guy to rely on, not a guy to avoid.

Edited January 16, 2018 by MJS

[xRUSHx]

 

Horrible having a QB other teams laugh at because they made him be a QB.

..

..

Edited January 16, 2018 by xRUSHx

[reddogblitz]

12 minutes ago, MJS said:

 

That's because Bortles sucks. Their entire offense is designed so that he is as small a factor as possible.

 

If the Jags win the Superbowl, I bet they still try to find a new QB. If the Bills would have won the Superbowl, I bet they would too.

 

Because both QB's are not good enough. You want a guy to rely on, not a guy to avoid.

 

This strategy worked well for the Ravens when they dumped Trent Dilfer after they won SB and replaced him with Elvis Grbac.

Edited January 16, 2018 by reddogblitz

[xRUSHx]

On 1/14/2018 at 5:52 PM, LA Grant said:

 

If we were the Jags, there'd be countless threads like "Blake Bortles still can't throw for 300 yards! We're never going to win with him!"

I was in Jax for the playoff game and 300 games came up at the bar and someone in a Jags jersey said BB had 4 or 5  300 yard games this season alone. I didnt look it up but if true that is 4 or 5 more then Tyrod got in his entier 7 year career.

[ColoradoBills]

9 minutes ago, xRUSHx said:

I was in Jax for the playoff game and 300 games came up at the bar and someone in a Jags jersey said BB had 4 or 5  300 yard games this season alone. I didnt look it up but if true that is 4 or 5 more then Tyrod got in his entier 7 year career.

4

3-1 record

[xRUSHx]

6 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

4

3-1 record

4 

3-1 record?

 

So BB had 4 this season?

What is the 3-1?

Tyrod has had one I know but can we really count his considering he needed a extra quarter to get it?

Edited January 16, 2018 by xRUSHx

[ColoradoBills]

1 minute ago, xRUSHx said:

4 

3-1 record?

 

So he had 4 this season?

What is the 3-1?

Tyrod has had one I know but can we really count his considering he needed a extra quarter to get it?

3 wins and 1 loss in those games.

[xRUSHx]

1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said:

3 wins and 1 loss in those games.

Oh ok, I was just pointing out the 300 games. IMO if a QB pulls out a 300 game and gets a loss that is on the D for not slowing down the other QB.

[ColoradoBills]

1 minute ago, xRUSHx said:

Oh ok, I was just pointing out the 300 games. IMO if a QB pulls out a 300 game and gets a loss that is on the D for not slowing down the other QB.

 

The loss was to the 49ers in that shootout game in week 16.

[xRUSHx]

13 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

The loss was to the 49ers in that shootout game in week 16.

A shootout game, man I miss having games like that. 

 

Thanks for looking that up, I just took a look. That game he lost he had 3 INTs but his other 300 games he won he had zero INTs. Protected the ball much better then I thought of him. I think he is a losey QB but has done more then Tyrod has.

 

Edited January 16, 2018 by xRUSHx

[transplantbillsfan]

3 hours ago, twoandfourteen said:

 

You have yet to show me or the rest of the class otherwise. 

 

Have you watched him play? Did you actually bother watching the Bills Vs Jags game where Tyrod clearly outplayed Bortles as a passer?

 

Bortles is NOT a good QB. He's bad.

 

I can't believe you're drawing this line in the sand. It's a dumb one.

 

I don't need to prove anything. Use your PFR you evidently rely completely upon if you're incapable of seeing what most people see which is that Tyrod is a better QB than Bortles.

 

Bortles is just playing on the most talented team in the NFL.

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/T/TaylTy00.htm

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BortBl00.htm

 

Tyrod 3.3% higher  completion % (significant), 1.5% lower INT % (significant), 1.2 more AY/A (significant), 11.7 higher QBR (significant), consistently higher Total Qbr, 0.4 YPA more, 0.1 YPC more, Higher NY/A and ANY/A. Taylor's got 165 more rushing yards and double the rushing TDs in that span, as well.

 

They have the exact same TD%.

 

Bortles has a couple more 4qc and Gwds but in 20+ more games.

 

 

What're you going with, exactly

 

 

YAAAAAARRRRRRDDZZZZZ??????

 

 

 

If it looks like a Troll and smells like a Troll, it must be a Troll

 

Such a shame.

Edited January 16, 2018 by transplantbillsfan

[xRUSHx]

18 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Have you watched him play? Did you actually bother watching the Bills Vs Jags game where Tyrod clearly outplayed Bortles as a passer?

 

Bortles is NOT a good QB. He's bad.

 

I can't believe you're drawing this line in the sand. It's a dumb one.

 

I don't need to prove anything. Use your PFR you evidently rely completely upon if you're incapable of seeing what most people see which is that Tyrod is a better QB than Bortles.

 

Bortles is just playing on the most talented team in the NFL.

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/T/TaylTy00.htm

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BortBl00.htm

 

Tyrod 3.3% higher  completion % (significant), 1.5% lower INT % (significant), 1.2 more AY/A (significant), 11.7 higher QBR (significant), consistently higher Total Qbr, 0.4 YPA more, 0.1 YPC more, Higher NY/A and ANY/A. Taylor's got 165 more rushing yards and double the rushing TDs in that span, as well.

 

They have the exact same TD%.

 

Bortles has a couple more 4qc and Gwds but in 20+ more games.

 

 

What're you going with, exactly

 

 

YAAAAAARRRRRRDDZZZZZ??????

Haha, Tyrod is home watching the playoff games on TV after his big performance of one FG in the wild card game while Bortles went to Pitt and out played a for sure HOF future QB for the right to go on to NE for the AFC championship game.

 

Bortles is so bad he has had four 300 yard games this season how many has Tyrod had this season? Bortles has more 300 games in one season then Tyrod has had his entire career. I agree Bortles is not some kind of great QB but he is for sure a better QB then Tyrod will ever be just looking at this season alone.

 

Your funny putting completion percentage on there considering how little he throws it.

Let's say Tyrod throws it 3 xs  in a loss so he gets a 100% on the day but BB throws it 40xs but only gets a 50% for the day but gets the win, who showed up to make it happen the guy that pushed to make it happen or the guy that didnt want to throw it because he was protecting his stats over pushing for the win?

 

Winners find a way to win a game while losers are home with a towel on there heads.

Edited January 16, 2018 by xRUSHx

[reddogblitz]

6 minutes ago, xRUSHx said:

Haha, Tyrod is home watching the playoff games on TV after his big performance of one FG in the wild card game while Bortles went to Pitt and out played a for sure HOF future QB for the right to go on the NE for the AFC championship game.

 

Bortles is so bad he has had four 300 yard games this season how many has Tyrod had this season? Bortles has more 300 games in one season then Tyrod has had his entire career. I agree Bortles is not some kind of great QB but he is for sure a better QB then Tyrod will ever be just looking at this season alone.

 

Winners find a way to win a game while losers are home with a towel on there heads.

 

56 yards 

[Rob's House]

1 hour ago, sleeby said:

Well, neverminding the odd history of the cartoon image - anyone aware of and using pepe to self identify today is a white supremacist bigot.  Sad for the original artist and all but there it is.  

I remember when that term used to mean something.

[twoandfourteen]

58 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Have you watched him play? Did you actually bother watching the Bills Vs Jags game where Tyrod clearly outplayed Bortles as a passer?

 

Bortles is NOT a good QB. He's bad.

 

I can't believe you're drawing this line in the sand. It's a dumb one.

 

I don't need to prove anything. Use your PFR you evidently rely completely upon if you're incapable of seeing what most people see which is that Tyrod is a better QB than Bortles.

 

Bortles is just playing on the most talented team in the NFL.

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/T/TaylTy00.htm

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BortBl00.htm

 

Tyrod 3.3% higher  completion % (significant), 1.5% lower INT % (significant), 1.2 more AY/A (significant), 11.7 higher QBR (significant), consistently higher Total Qbr, 0.4 YPA more, 0.1 YPC more, Higher NY/A and ANY/A. Taylor's got 165 more rushing yards and double the rushing TDs in that span, as well.

 

They have the exact same TD%.

 

Bortles has a couple more 4qc and Gwds but in 20+ more games.

 

 

What're you going with, exactly

 

 

YAAAAAARRRRRRDDZZZZZ??????

 

 

 

If it looks like a Troll and smells like a Troll, it must be a Troll

 

Such a shame.

 

You forgot to list a relatively important stat.... I wonder why that is? 

 

Do you want to tell the class, or should I? 

 

While you're figuring that out, I'll leave these here for you to watch.
 

https://www.nfl.com/share/10103061-7033-0000-0090-6527db4ec28d

 

 

 

Edited January 16, 2018 by twoandfourteen

[xRUSHx]

3 minutes ago, twoandfourteen said:

 

You forgot to list a relatively important stat.... I wonder why that is? 

 

Do you want to tell the class, or should I? 

 

While you're figuring that out, I'll leave this here for you to watch.
 

https://www.nfl.com/share/10103061-7033-0000-0090-6527db4ec28d

 

 

That second one he hit him on stride perfectly something I never seen Tyrod do with anyone on this team.

[reddogblitz]

1 hour ago, xRUSHx said:

That second one he hit him on stride perfectly something I never seen Tyrod do with anyone on this team.

 

This one was in the 3td quarter. I guess you must have left at half time.

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-cTNqwZ5gkY

 

56 yards in the air.

Edited January 16, 2018 by reddogblitz

[xRUSHx]

8 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

This one was in the 3td quarter. I guess you must have left at half time.

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-cTNqwZ5gkY

 

56 yards in the air.

Hey look at that he can get lucky every once in a while years back and I was at that game but.

 

How about we talk about a game in 2017 where I for sure left by halftime.

 

Nov.12,2017

Photos: The Associated Press

By Matthew Fairburn | mfairburn@nyup.com

 

Orchard Park, N.Y. — On Wednesday, Tyrod Taylor was asked if he was ready for the Buffalo Bills to get into a shootout against Drew Brees and the New Orleans Saints. Taylor didn’t hesitate.

“Definitely,” he said.

On Sunday afternoon, it quickly became apparent he and the Bills were ready for no such thing. The Saints held up their end of the bargain in the shootout, scoring 40 points. The Bills’ offense, meanwhile, was a mess. Taylor led the team to a field goal on its opening drive and then never scored again. In fact, the Bills didn’t even reach the red zone after that first drive.

 

For every punch the Saints delivered, the Bills couldn’t answer back. Taylor 56 yards passing on 18 passing attempts. He didn’t throw a touchdown and had one interception. With just over four minutes remaining in the game, the Bills put rookie quarterback Nathan Peterman in the game to mop up the mess of a 47-10 loss.

Edited January 16, 2018 by xRUSHx

[reddogblitz]

1 hour ago, xRUSHx said:

That second one he hit him on stride perfectly something I never seen Tyrod do with anyone on this team.

 

1 hour ago, xRUSHx said:

That second one he hit him on stride perfectly something I never seen Tyrod do with anyone on this team.

 

7 minutes ago, xRUSHx said:

Hey look at that he can get lucky every once in a while years back but.

 

How about we talk about 2017

 

Nov.12,2017

Photos: The Associated Press

By Matthew Fairburn | mfairburn@nyup.com

 

Orchard Park, N.Y. — On Wednesday, Tyrod Taylor was asked if he was ready for the Buffalo Bills to get into a shootout against Drew Brees and the New Orleans Saints. Taylor didn’t hesitate.

“Definitely,” he said.

On Sunday afternoon, it quickly became apparent he and the Bills were ready for no such thing. The Saints held up their end of the bargain in the shootout, scoring 40 points. The Bills’ offense, meanwhile, was a mess. Taylor led the team to a field goal on its opening drive and then never scored again. In fact, the Bills didn’t even reach the red zone after that first drive.

 

For every punch the Saints delivered, the Bills couldn’t answer back. Taylor 56 yards passing on 18 passing attempts. He didn’t throw a touchdown and had one interception. With just over four minutes remaining in the game, the Bills put rookie quarterback Nathan Peterman in the game to mop up the mess of a 47-10 loss.

 

LOL

 

 NEVER (your word) now means 2017 only?  Move the goal post much?

 

Tell me this. Who did we have on our team in 2017 that could get open for a pass like that AND actually come down with it?

[reddogblitz]

2017

 

 

I'll be standing by for a yeah butt ...

[transplantbillsfan]

1 hour ago, twoandfourteen said:

 

You forgot to list a relatively important stat.... I wonder why that is? 

 

Do you want to tell the class, or should I? 

 

While you're figuring that out, I'll leave these here for you to watch.
 

https://www.nfl.com/share/10103061-7033-0000-0090-6527db4ec28d

 

 

 

 

I don't like to watch videos of people claiming to prove an argument.

 

Not clicking on that.

 

You must be a millennial.

 

Funny you say a "relatively important stat..."  not too confident in whatever your argument that I don't currently know, are you?

 

Please, tell the class whatever the hell you're trying to argue.

 

Is your argument "QB PLAYOFF WINNNZZZZ"? I mean now that the Jags have a whole 2 of them?

 

 

Or you could just do the rational thing and admit that Bortles isn't better than Taylor while understanding at the same time that if you did that you would not also be saying that Taylor is great or even good.

 

This is just a really dumb argument I probably won't waste much more time on if you continue to pretend to believe this stupidity  

[xRUSHx]

15 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

 

 

LOL

 

 NEVER (your word) now means 2017 only?  Move the goal post much?

 

Tell me this. Who did we have on our team in 2017 that could get open for a pass like that AND actually come down with it?

Yeah ok, I did laugh and say hey he got lucky every once in a while years back. Get open? Haha, he has had plenty open in normal QB standards but Tyrod open is enough to fit a bus in. Remember any backup in this league can get a lucky throw here or there.

 

But we all should know by now according to the COT it is never Tyrods fault for his fail, its everyone else's. On to OC#4 because OC#3 failed at making him a QB.  So nice having a QB other teams make fun of because they made him be a QB. SMH 

Edited January 16, 2018 by xRUSHx

[reddogblitz]

3 minutes ago, xRUSHx said:

Yeah ok, I did laugh and say hey he got lucky every once in a while years back.

 

But we all should know by now according to the COT it is never Tyrods fault for his fail, its everyone else's. On to OC#4 because OC#3 failed at making him a QB.  So nice having a QB other teams make fun of because they made him be a QB. SMH 

 

Whatever

 

Does Blake Bottles ever get lucky?

 

Any idea yet on who our team in 2016 gets open and Sammy came down with a pass like Sammy did in 2016?

Edited January 16, 2018 by reddogblitz

[xRUSHx]

6 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

Whatever

Back at ya, Tyrod is just not good enough, face the facts and move on like most of the fans.

 

Go back to bed Tyrod your sleep walking dreaming of being a franchise worthy QB something you will never ever be. Btw let Trans out one more time or he could puddle on the floor during the night.

Edited January 16, 2018 by xRUSHx

[reddogblitz]

14 minutes ago, xRUSHx said:

Back at ya, Tyrod is just not good enough, face the facts and move on like most of the fans.

 

LOL. 

 

Any idea yet on who in 2017 comes down with that pass?

 

We need better QB play no doubt. But Hotrod CAN hit guys on the Numbers in stride. Admit it. We have incontrovertible video evidence.

Edited January 16, 2018 by reddogblitz