Domdab99 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) So is this because TT runs arround like crazy, or is the OL actually, you know....good? https://twitter.com/PFF/status/946474844211818496 can't post the JPEG because it's too big...oh well Edited December 28, 2017 by Domdab99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westerndecline Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 I'll put it this way the o-line has not been the problem past 3 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 25 minutes ago, Domdab99 said: So is this because TT runs arround like crazy, or is the OL actually, you know....good? Tyrod holds the ball too long, which is one of his problems, and can reflect poorly on the offensive line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Kinda surprising but I'll take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, Capco said: Kinda surprising but I'll take it. Not really. Then again Dawkins has been a big surprise. I just wish the Bills were not shopping Glenn. Plug him in at RT next season. Or maybe even RG. No reason to weaken our talent there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Domdab99 said: So is this because TT runs arround like crazy, or is the OL actually, you know....good? https://twitter.com/PFF/status/946474844211818496 can't post the JPEG because it's too big...oh well This points out the problem with stats generated by people other than the pro football professionals. Pretty obvious to me that your rating on this list is NOT a measure of offensive line play. It's a measure of something that is related to having a mobile quarterback. Taylor, Brees, Carr, Mariota are all on the top of this list. Edited December 28, 2017 by Shaw66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducej11 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 13 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: This points out the problem with stats generated by people other than the pro football professionals. Pretty obvious to me that your rating on this list is NOT a measure of offensive line play. It's a measure of something that is related to having a mobile quarterback. Taylor, Brees, Carr, Mariota are all on the top of this list. I agree. I have real issues with Pro Football Focus in general rating individual players. They are watching the film and I think on some plays you can probably give a grade, but they have NO IDEA what the players actual responsibility was on a given play. A player can be way out of position who just happens to make a play because of it and they will rate them really well on that play but in the film room, the player will probably get torn apart for being out of position. I hate how much people rely on this third party company to determine how good or bad a player is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 minute ago, ducej11 said: I agree. I have real issues with Pro Football Focus in general rating individual players. They are watching the film and I think on some plays you can probably give a grade, but they have NO IDEA what the players actual responsibility was on a given play. A player can be way out of position who just happens to make a play because of it and they will rate them really well on that play but in the film room, the player will probably get torn apart for being out of position. I hate how much people rely on this third party company to determine how good or bad a player is. They are credible. The ratings are typically accurate. Not 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 "Throw it! Throw it! Throw it!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducej11 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: They are credible. The ratings are typically accurate. Not 100%. What makes you say they are credible and they are accurate? Edited December 28, 2017 by ducej11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forward Progress Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 For the first ten weeks of the season, I held a burning cross outside of Ducasse's home. He's been playing at the NFL QB level for the last few weeks, in case you hadn't noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 14 minutes ago, ducej11 said: What makes you say they are credible and they are accurate? Many NFL teams have paid them for research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 They've definitely had some stinker games, but for the most part they've done pretty well. The 2nd jets game sticks out in my mind as a game where they really disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadonkadonk Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 hour ago, westerndecline said: I'll put it this way the o-line has not been the problem past 3 years Not true. The O-line has never been fully healthy and has always had issues with pass protection. Even when Glenn is healthy the right side has been below average at best. Yes TT holds the ball too long, but he escapes many more sacks than he takes. Ducasse has looked better. Mills is probably not the worst RT in the league but probably bottom 5. Best hope is Glenn is healthy and Dawkins replaces Mills. Hope McDumbass doesn't trade him for a conditional 7th round pick. I think it is less than 50/50 Glenn is back. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducej11 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 hour ago, TheTruthHurts said: Many NFL teams have paid them for research. Couple of things here. What did they pay for? I highly highly doubt if they paid anything it had to do with the players and how they perform. My guess is IF, and it's a big IF, any NFL team ever paid them a dime, it had more to do with scheme and tendencies. Maybe even tendencies of individual players sure. I am not saying PFF doesn't have some value, it's just not in evaluating every player on every play since they had no idea what the responsibility is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 2 hours ago, Domdab99 said: So is this because TT runs arround like crazy, or is the OL actually, you know....good? https://twitter.com/PFF/status/946474844211818496 can't post the JPEG because it's too big...oh well ESPN and PFF don't agree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: ESPN and PFF don't agree. They do agree about Saints Raiders Titans. But you have to wonfer about the quality of ratings when the Bills are at the tip of one list and the bottom of another. It's all based on amateurs evaluating film. That's a joke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Shaw66 said: They do agree about Saints Raiders Titans. But you have to wonfer about the quality of ratings when the Bills are at the tip of one list and the bottom of another. It's all based on amateurs evaluating film. That's a joke. Hard to reconcile such a disparity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 hour ago, dneveu said: They've definitely had some stinker games, but for the most part they've done pretty well. The 2nd jets game sticks out in my mind as a game where they really disappointed. Chargers game was no picnic either. That one definitely sticks out as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 10 minutes ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Chargers game was no picnic either. That one definitely sticks out as well. Yeah - Peterman didn't have a ton of time and the game was blown open by the 2nd half. Tyrod against theJets was just under constant pressure with the 5 man stunts and the o-line was collapsing all game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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