Jerry Jabber Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 One thing that got magnified in yesterday's disaster was how terrible pass protection looked on the right side of the line. Taylor's mobility/escape-ability has masked this problem all season long. I'm curious to know if Ryan Groy and John Miller are worse options at RG instead of Vlad Ducasse and if Seantrel Henderson is a worse option at RT instead of Johnathan Mills? Ducasse and Mills have been horrible all year long and it seems both of their jobs have been safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 There is no house Ballard playing tackle.only the bills think Jordan mills is a nfl tackle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 yep....ducasse and mills are horrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13player Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Jerry Jabber said: One thing that got magnified in yesterday's disaster was how terrible pass protection looked on the right side of the line. Taylor's mobility/escape-ability has masked this problem all season long. I'm curious to know if Ryan Groy and John Miller are worse options at RG instead of Vlad Ducasse and if Seantrel Henderson is a worse option at RT instead of Johnathan Mills? Ducasse and Mills have been horrible all year long and it seems both of their jobs have been safe. I have been saying for the last 3 seasons that our line sucks but its bigger than the right side, Ritchie has one year left, Glenn can't stay healthy and we are ok with woods because we have Groy, TT is bad but he is masking the issues on the line, we need to draft or sign a RT, RG, LT, LG, ML, DT before we even think of drafting a QB, its a shame because they are going to go back to TT, he is going to hide the line issues and they will draft another qb who will get killed. Have the best line in the league and just about any decent QB can be a franchise, look at Dallas and Philly, please fix the line Edited November 20, 2017 by 13player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Its all over the line...the left side has plenty of breakdowns too...lately even with Glenn in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, 13player said: I have been saying for the last 3 seasons that our line sucks but its bigger than the right side, Ritchie has one year left, Glenn can't stay healthy and we are ok with woods because we have Groy, TT is bad but he is masking the issues on the line, we need to draft or sign a RT, RG, LT, LG, ML, DT before we even think of drafting a QB, its a shame because they are going to go back to TT, he is going to hide the line issues and they will draft another qb who will get killed. Have the best line in the league and just about any decent QB can be a franchise, look at Dallas and Philly, please fix the line The entire line is awful.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 37 minutes ago, Jerry Jabber said: One thing that got magnified in yesterday's disaster was how terrible pass protection looked on the right side of the line. Taylor's mobility/escape-ability has masked this problem all season long. I'm curious to know if Ryan Groy and John Miller are worse options at RG instead of Vlad Ducasse and if Seantrel Henderson is a worse option at RT instead of Johnathan Mills? Ducasse and Mills have been horrible all year long and it seems both of their jobs have been safe. This entire Oline is a joke. Dawkins got owned by Boss. Richie and Eric are done. Mills & Duc are not even qualified for arena football. It doesn't matter who plays qb, they will look terrible behind this disgraceful excuse for offensive lineman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 My 6’6” 300lb cousin at UB is better than mills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayjent Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 The fact that they trotted out the same line the past three games is not a sign of good coaching. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Jerry Jabber said: One thing that got magnified in yesterday's disaster was how terrible pass protection looked on the right side of the line. Taylor's mobility/escape-ability has masked this problem all season long. I'm curious to know if Ryan Groy and John Miller are worse options at RG instead of Vlad Ducasse and if Seantrel Henderson is a worse option at RT instead of Johnathan Mills? Ducasse and Mills have been horrible all year long and it seems both of their jobs have been safe. Without a question - we have two players who are not starting on other teams in Ducasse and Mills. Wood/Incognito are aging and are certainly not youthful/good enough at this point to make up for and entire lack of a right side to the OL. Ritchie can play but not at the level he's been graded at the past few seasons with us; the season is becoming longer for a lot of guys on this team. LT, I just don't know. We're paying Glenn a good contract to be hurt a lot and Dawkins looks more interior than LT to me. We desperately need Dawkins to develop into a starting OL player so we don't have to sink a ton of picks into our line. But as it stands we desperately need 2-3 new OL's of starting caliber. It just demonstrates what a draft need the OL is, and exactly how long it will be until we see a January contender in Buffalo. Revamp our OL and Front 7 on D. Edited November 20, 2017 by ctk232 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayjent Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 10 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: This entire Oline is a joke. Dawkins got owned by Boss. Richie and Eric are done. Mills & Duc are not even qualified for arena football. It doesn't matter who plays qb, they will look terrible behind this disgraceful excuse for offensive lineman. To me it looks like they are platooning Dawkins just to eventually replace Glenn, instead of saying - well we've got two guys at Tackle that can start so that we don't have to start Mills. Castillo is a historically bad OLine coach, so you can probably place some credit on his coaching finally taking hold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 54 minutes ago, ctk232 said: Without a question - we have two players who are not starting on other teams in Ducasse and Mills. Wood/Incognito are aging and are certainly not youthful/good enough at this point to make up for and entire lack of a right side to the OL. Ritchie can play but not at the level he's been graded at the past few seasons with us; the season is becoming longer for a lot of guys on this team. LT, I just don't know. We're paying Glenn a good contract to be hurt a lot and Dawkins looks more interior than LT to me. We desperately need Dawkins to develop into a starting OL player so we don't have to sink a ton of picks into our line. But as it stands we desperately need 2-3 new OL's of starting caliber. It just demonstrates what a draft need the OL is, and exactly how long it will be until we see a January contender in Buffalo. Revamp our OL and Front 7 on D. I agree 100% If Dennison is going to comtinue on as the OC and use his West Coast offense, then the Bills will need a good O-line that can pass protect. I also agree the front 7 on defense needs to be revamped. The Bills D can barely get any pressure on the QB and our LB's can't cover anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 7 hours ago, Ayjent said: To me it looks like they are platooning Dawkins just to eventually replace Glenn, instead of saying - well we've got two guys at Tackle that can start so that we don't have to start Mills. Castillo is a historically bad OLine coach, so you can probably place some credit on his coaching finally taking hold. Good points. I don’t get why the coaches haven’t tried Dawkins at RT when Glenn has been in the lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 32 minutes ago, Jerry Jabber said: Good points. I don’t get why the coaches haven’t tried Dawkins at RT when Glenn has been in the lineup. Same reason left handed pitchers don't throw right handed in baseball... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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