Buffalo Bills Detective Posted September 16, 2017 Author Share Posted September 16, 2017 why do they need to become all-pros? Why do we need top FAs to come here any more then than any other time? You are giving up one additional 1st rd pick. You have an extra this year, and the other you are using to get the QB anyway. It's really just the 2019 pick. And since you have two 2nds this year, which one or both might be high 2nds... it's not some outrageous thought to give up what a stated given what you are think you are getting in return. That 2019 1st could be used to select a legitimate #1 WR or a defensive tackle to replace Kyle, or even Dareus if they part ways with him after the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 If we are not in the top 2 i really want San Fran up there. You cen get them out of that pick once they sign Cousins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Fair enough. Let's say that the Jets get Rosen, but Darnold decides to stay at USC and isn't available at 2. Who do the Bills take 2nd overall? You don't make that deal if Darnold is not there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 That 2019 1st could be used to select a legitimate #1 WR or a defensive tackle to replace Kyle, or even Dareus if they part ways with him after the season. Get the QB first. Then the others. No reason drafting WRs high until you have that QB in place. See Sammy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 If we are not in the top 2 i really want San Fran up there. You cen get them out of that pick once they sign Cousins. The Colts would be a real nice trade partner. They could use the extra picks to surround Luck with talent once he comes back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 That 2019 1st could be used to select a legitimate #1 WR or a defensive tackle to replace Kyle, or even Dareus if they part ways with him after the season.how exciting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 The Colts would be a real nice trade partner. They could use the extra picks to surround Luck with talent once he comes back. Yeah but with the Drunk Irsey there the might actually take a QB. Specially if there are long term ?s about Lucks health Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 That 2019 1st could be used to select a legitimate #1 WR or a defensive tackle to replace Kyle, or even Dareus if they part ways with him after the season. A DT isn't getting this team closer to sustained success. Get the QB first and worry about the rest after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Detective Posted September 16, 2017 Author Share Posted September 16, 2017 Get the QB first. Then the others. No reason drafting WRs high until you have that QB in place. See Sammy. I understand that. But, if you do a Carson Wentz-esque trade-up like Yolo is suggesting, and the 2019 class produces a WR that many feel is the next Calvin Johnson, or AJ Green, you won't be able to get him because you gave up a 2019 1st for Rosen or Darnold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Yeah but with the Drunk Irsey there the might actually take a QB. Specially if there are long term ?s about Lucks health Seems unlikely given how much they are paying Luck no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 (edited) What would you give up for him? Also, how good is Pittsburgh's defense? Not sure what I'd give for him. Heck, he may be available when we pick. Pitts defense isn't good. They barely squeaked one out against Youngstown State. Rudolph also has some damn good receivers to throw to. Edited September 16, 2017 by RaoulDuke79 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Then again it is the Bills we are talking about. They likely will use thier 1st for a RB Seems unlikely given how much they are paying Luck no?Logic says it does. But this is Irsey we are talking about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 I understand that. But, if you do a Carson Wentz-esque trade-up like Yolo is suggesting, and the 2019 class produces a WR that many feel is the next Calvin Johnson, or AJ Green, you won't be able to get him because you gave up a 2019 1st for Rosen or Darnold. I think your concerns are all in the wrong places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Detective Posted September 16, 2017 Author Share Posted September 16, 2017 Then again it is the Bills we are talking about. They likely will use thier 1st for a RB Logic says it does. But this is Irsey we are talking about Ok, that crap is getting real old. Unless the next Adrian Peterson is on the board, I sincerely doubt that Beane and McDermott would waste a top 10 pick on a RB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 (edited) I understand that. But, if you do a Carson Wentz-esque trade-up like Yolo is suggesting, and the 2019 class produces a WR that many feel is the next Calvin Johnson, or AJ Green, you won't be able to get him because you gave up a 2019 1st for Rosen or Darnold.So what. If your QB is legit you dont need a Calvin Johnson or AJ Green immediately.  I laid out the Carson Wentz Trade. Even after you get you or QB You have  KC 1st - for WR or DT Bills and Rams 2nd - for WR or DT A third for a WR or DT Ok, that crap is getting real old. Unless the next Adrian Peterson is on the board, I sincerely doubt that Beane and McDermott would waste a top 10 pick on a RB.Same was said with Gailey when Lynch was here. Go look at Bills Draft History when it comes to 1st round RBs.  This regime even stated they are a run first team  And added more money to their RBs contract this year in incentives. Kinda points to a high value on RB position. Edited September 16, 2017 by MAJBobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 I understand that. But, if you do a Carson Wentz-esque trade-up like Yolo is suggesting, and the 2019 class produces a WR that many feel is the next Calvin Johnson, or AJ Green, you won't be able to get him because you gave up a 2019 1st for Rosen or Darnold.if you still have no QB who cares? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 if you still have no QB who cares? He wants to see the Sammy situation all over again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 I understand that. But, if you do a Carson Wentz-esque trade-up like Yolo is suggesting, and the 2019 class produces a WR that many feel is the next Calvin Johnson, or AJ Green, you won't be able to get him because you gave up a 2019 1st for Rosen or Darnold. Who care, all players are replaceable except a legit franchise QB. What is your plan, build around Tyrod? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Who care, all players are replaceable except a legit franchise QB. What is your plan, build around Tyrod? Yep it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Detective Posted September 16, 2017 Author Share Posted September 16, 2017 He wants to see the Sammy situation all over again Did I say that? Who care, all players are replaceable except a legit franchise QB. What is your plan, build around Tyrod? Tyrod won't be on the team next year, because it's painfully obvious that he can't run this offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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