26CornerBlitz Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 (edited) He is what he is. A sub par Thrower But makes up for that a bit with legs So in essense a .500 QB that has reached his ceiling which is not good enough in this league is it. We know. You repeating it 1 million times isn't any more informative. Edited August 18, 2017 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 He is what he is. A sub par Thrower But makes up for that a bit with legs So in essense a .500 QB that has reached his ceiling which is not good enough in this league is it. I think everyone knows this by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 18, 2017 Author Share Posted August 18, 2017 The typical response is "give me the rookie". lol You do not start a rookie QB picked in the fifth over an established veteran that has accomplished something in the NFL and is not terrible like you seem to think he is. the season has to play itself out. If he is outplaying the current .500 QB yep. They did it in Seattle didnt they Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 @YardsPerPass TT had some pretty bad pass pro... But it is stuff like this that worries you. Double Slants + Slant/Flat The slant is there on 3rd step Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 When did I ever say that it's all that matters? I have probably said 1,000 times that franchise QB's make it easier and the pattern shows that. Well lets so who Vegas odds to win the Super Bowl...in order top 10: Patriots Packers Raiders Seahawks Cowboys Steelers Falcons Giants Panthers Cardinals What do they all have in common? I pointed that out. 1 playoff team outside of NE since 2012. They all have franchise QBs, and they also have more talent all around than the Bills do. But tell Matt Ryan he doesn't need Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 18, 2017 Author Share Posted August 18, 2017 We know. You repeating it 1 million times isn't any more informative. Then maybe people should stop trying to tell me how good he is and excuse after excuse on why he struggled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 He is what he is. A sub par Thrower But makes up for that a bit with legs So in essense a .500 QB that has reached his ceiling which is not good enough in this league is it. Yes, and who would you have had for this season that is better? there was no one else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 18, 2017 Author Share Posted August 18, 2017 @YardsPerPass So isnt the flat actually TT had some pretty bad pass pro... But it is stuff like this that worries you. Double Slants + Slant/Flat The slant is there on 3rd step Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Then maybe people should stop trying to tell me how good he is and excuse after excuse on why he struggled No one is trying to say he is good. but he isn't terrible like you and a few others keep claiming he is. and when you say that talent around him doesn't matter, that is plain out wrong. Jeremy WhiteVerified account @JeremyWGR 7m7 minutes agoMore They chose to get worse on the field for more picks. They know what they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 They all have franchise QBs, and they also have more talent all around than the Bills do. But tell Matt Ryan he doesn't need Jones. The year that Ryan didn't have much of Jones because he broke his foot was 2013.... 4,515 passing yards, 67.4%, 26 TD's/17 INT's and 89.8 rating. A little bit of a decrease from his best seasons but losing Jones didn't make him look downright terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 If he is outplaying the current .500 QB yep. They did it in Seattle didnt they Play Peterman with the same talent and against the first string defenses. No Glenn, or Matthews allowed. then we will know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 18, 2017 Author Share Posted August 18, 2017 No one is trying to say he is good. but he isn't terrible like you and a few others keep claiming he is. and when you say that talent around him doesn't matter, that is plain out wrong. Jeremy WhiteVerified account @JeremyWGR 7m7 minutes ago More They chose to get worse on the field for more picks. They know what they are. And that tweet is supposed to be some ringing endorsement for TT Play Peterman with the same talent and against the first string defenses. No Glenn, or Matthews allowed. then we will know. But no you just bashed that solution. Heck even Doug Marrone can see Bortles is struggling opens up a competition. TT has played very similar to Bortles this preseason and yet..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 The year that Ryan didn't have much of Jones because he broke his foot was 2013.... 4,515 passing yards, 67.4%, 26 TD's/17 INT's and 89.8 rating. A little bit of a decrease from his best seasons but losing Jones didn't make him look downright terrible. Atlanta finished 4-12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 No one is trying to say he is good. but he isn't terrible like you and a few others keep claiming he is. and when you say that talent around him doesn't matter, that is plain out wrong. Jeremy WhiteVerified account @JeremyWGR 7m7 minutes agoMore They chose to get worse on the field for more picks. They know what they are. Cam Newton lost Kelvin Benjamin in 2015....his #1 target. Can you even name the Panthers other receivers? The Panthers had the best offense in the NFL that year and Newton was MVP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 And that tweet is supposed to be some ringing endorsement for TT But no you just bashed that solution. Heck even Doug Marrone can see Bortles is struggling opens up a competition. TT has played very similar to Bortles this preseason and yet..... How-play him with the exact same talent that TT had last night. You claim Peterman will do better. Only way we will know if it is done that way-now you don't like that idea. Wonder why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 18, 2017 Author Share Posted August 18, 2017 Atlanta finished 4-12. But individually Matt Ryan didnt look lost did he. Stanard post with you take an individual argument and use a team stat against it. How-play him with the exact same talent that TT had last night. You claim Peterman will do better. Only way we will know if it is done that way-now you don't like that idea. Wonder why. I actually never claimed Peterman is anything more than a top end BU. And no where did i say he would do better. Play him a QTR with ones next week. Thats how you play him with the exact same talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 But individually Matt Ryan didnt look lost did he. Stanard post with you take an individual argument and use a team stat against it. W-L all that matter. You're the one trying to play around with stats. franchise QBs need a good team around them, then so much more does TT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 NFL.com: McDermott to stick with Taylor as Bills' starter The Buffalo Bills stripped Tyrod Taylor of his best play-making receiver last week, then watched him struggle Thursday night in a 20-16 loss to the Philadelphia Eagles. What did they expect? Taylor's first pass of the night was thrown into the hands of a blitzing defensive back, popped up in the air and intercepted. The quarterback's struggles were just beginning. He'd throw another interception three drives later to ex-teammate Ronald Darby. In six drives with Taylor at the helm, the Bills earned six first downs (one via penalty) and managed just three points. He finished 8-of-18 passing for 53 yards, 2.9 yards per attempt, and two picks for a passer rating of 12.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Atlanta finished 4-12. Was the because they lost Jones or because they gave up nearly 28 ppg on defense? That's the biggest horn you've been blowing the last two years....the Bills poor defense. Which btw, gave up less points than the 2013 Falcons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 18, 2017 Author Share Posted August 18, 2017 W-L all that matter. You're the one trying to play around with stats. franchise QBs need a good team around them, then so much more does TT. If thats all that matters you sure make alot of excuses for a .500 QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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