C.Biscuit97 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Think of that one yourself? Actually I'm a Contract Manager and deal in negotiations. I know I would need the scouting experience. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what makes an NFL team successful. A good QB, a good O-line to give him time in the pocket. At least two quality WR's. Stop posting and save the Bills! We need you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Think of that one yourself? Actually I'm a Contract Manager and deal in negotiations. I know I would need the scouting experience. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what makes an NFL team successful. A good QB, a good O-line to give him time in the pocket. At least two quality WR's. You want to hold my hand? I'm not looking for a date pal. If the Bills had won that steelers game like they should have in 2004, Donahoe would be a better GM for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 If the Bills had won that steelers game like they should have in 2004, Donahoe would be a better GM for sure. Do you ever post anything with real facts? Whaley has one less win than in a full year less than TD. But you like his white hair so clearly he's better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 If the Bills had won that steelers game like they should have in 2004, Donahoe would be a better GM for sure. Yeah but the game was lost because Bledsoe was a washed up has been. Donahoe was the guy who decided to pick up the washed has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Do you ever post anything with real facts? Whaley has one less win than in a full year less than TD. But you like his white hair so clearly he's better. The 2001 season was a complete clean out and rebuild from the 90's. Everyone knew it would be the first terrible year in a long time. Yeah but the game was lost because Bledsoe was a washed up has been. Donahoe was the guy who decided to pick up the washed has been. Didn't a no name Willie Parker run wild over our defense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted April 18, 2017 Author Share Posted April 18, 2017 The 2001 season was a complete clean out and rebuild from the 90's. Everyone knew it would be the first terrible year in a long time. Didn't a no name Willie Parker run wild over our defense? At the start of the 2001 season, a lot of people proclaimed the 2001 Bills would be better than the year before as the West Coast offense would be better suited for Rob Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Fan in LA Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 If I recall correctly, Donahoe had more than one title. He was President and GM, if not more. That gave Donahoe more control than Whaley, who doesn't really call the shots. The circus in the Bills front office is the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 The 2001 season was a complete clean out and rebuild from the 90's. Everyone knew it would be the first terrible year in a long time. Didn't a no name Willie Parker run wild over our defense? I know you hate facts but TD inherited an 8-8 team and Whaley inherited a 6-10 team. But I'm eagerly awaiting a factless, baseless, unprovable response from you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 The 2001 season was a complete clean out and rebuild from the 90's. Everyone knew it would be the first terrible year in a long time. Didn't a no name Willie Parker run wild over our defense? Parker ran for 102 yards with one long run thrown in. It's was demoralizing more than anything that a third string RB could run for over 100 yards against us. I know that it was the first thing I noticed while watching that game. In reality Bledsoe was awful as well. He threw for less than 200 yards and was 16 out of 30. He did nothing to keep the Steelers off the field. In fact we were carried by McGahee that entire season. When the Steelers were able to shut him down we were finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 he is worse than donahoe... atleast donahoe knew the importance of the qb position Until he drafted JP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted April 18, 2017 Author Share Posted April 18, 2017 Until he drafted JP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billz4life820 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 TD: 31-49 (39 winning %), finished 8-8 or better twice in 5 years Whaley: 30-34 (47 winning %), finished 8-8 or better twice in 4 years. Great, informative post though. TD conducted a true rebuild that started with a 3-13 record.... and like I said he tried to address the QB position twice and built a defense 10 times better than whaleys... it did not work out (due to bad drafting and the Oline) but atleast he tried to address the QB and came alot closer to the playoffs in 2004 when they went 9-7 then any Whaley team Do you ever post anything with real facts? Whaley has one less win than in a full year less than TD. But you like his white hair so clearly he's better. TD also went through an actual rebuild that included a 3-13 season.... the next season they jumped to 8-8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 TD conducted a true rebuild that started with a 3-13 record.... and like I said he tried to address the QB position twice and built a defense 10 times better than whaleys... it did not work out (due to bad drafting and the Oline) but atleast he tried to address the QB and came alot closer to the playoffs in 2004 when they went 9-7 then any Whaley team So he built a defense 10 times better than the #4 ranked defense? That doesn't make sense. And I guess drafting EJ and Cardale and bringing in Kolb, Tyrod, & Orton doesn't count as addressing the qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billz4life820 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Until he drafted JP. it did not workout but at least he tried Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 We don't have a GM in Buffalo. We have a group decision that can involve ownership, scouting, the coaching staff, marketing, and business guys. This is what Terry and Kim want. And who could argue with the results? The Pegulas have no clue how to run a professional sports franchise. The results prove that. I think they should try owning a Toys R Us or QT before jumping to the big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billz4life820 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 So he built a defense 10 times better than the #4 ranked defense? That doesn't make sense. And I guess drafting EJ and Cardale and bringing in Kolb, Tyrod, & Orton doesn't count as addressing the qb. The defense with takeo spikes, london fletcher, pat williams, sam adams, nate clements, terrence mcgee, schobel, and others was the #2 ranked defense and was much more well rounded if you think the names you listed above qualifies for adequately addressing the qb position good for you.... Buddy Nix drafted Levi Brown once too, I guess he knew how to address the qb position too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 The Pegulas have no clue how to run a professional sports franchise. The results prove that. I think they should try owning a Toys R Us or QT before jumping to the big time. Make a billion dollars and you can do with it what you want. But let's bash the pegulas. There were a ton of people who would have kept 2 pro sports teams in the booming metropolis of Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 The Pegulas have no clue how to run a professional sports franchise. The results prove that. I think they should try owning a Toys R Us or QT before jumping to the big time. Or a multi billion dollar oil and gas company, because any dummy can run those I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 The defense with takeo spikes, london fletcher, pat williams, sam adams, nate clements, terrence mcgee, schobel, and others was the #2 ranked defense and was much more well rounded if you think the names you listed above qualifies for adequately addressing the qb position good for you.... Buddy Nix drafted Levi Brown once too, I guess he knew how to address the qb position too In 2004, the defense gave up 17.8 points per game. In 2014, they gave up 18.1. You're right. The 2004 defense was 10 times better than the 2014 one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 (edited) In 2004, the defense gave up 17.8 points per game. In 2014, they gave up 18.1. You're right. The 2004 defense was 10 times better than the 2014 one! the 2004 defense was really good, but it faced a wretched schedule and feasted on terrible competition. The 2014 defense faced a much tougher schedule. Interestingly, the 2004 D was #1 overall in DVOA and the 2014 D was #2 overall in DVOA. I'll take either! Edited April 18, 2017 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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