Mets fans?

[ExWNYer]

@Gugny @SinceThe70s @Another Fan

 

Verlander inking two year deal with the Mets!

 

(Gimme Rodon, too)

 

 

[Gugny]

2 minutes ago, ExWNYer said:

@Gugny @SinceThe70s @Another Fan

 

Verlander inking two year deal with the Mets!

 

(Gimme Rodon, too)

 

 

 

I like that it's 2 years.  Better (and smarter) than giving Jake five years.  Verlander and Max will be 40 and 39, respectively, next season.  Gulp.

 

I think the Rodon ship has sailed.

 

Would love to bring Bassitt and Walker back.

 

Still processing!!

 

Edited December 5, 2022 by Gugny

[ExWNYer]

2 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

I like that it's 2 years.  Better (and smarter) than giving Jake five years.  Verlander and Max will be 40 and 39, respectively, next season.  Gulp.

 

I think the Rodon ship has sailed.

 

Would love to bring Bassitt and Walker back.

 

Still processing!!

 

 

Until it's reported that Rodon has actually signed somewhere, the ship is still anchored. Although I believe he is a Bor-ass client which never gives me a warm and fuzzy.

[Gugny]

4 minutes ago, ExWNYer said:

 

Until it's reported that Rodon has actually signed somewhere, the ship is still anchored. Although I believe he is a Bor-ass client which never gives me a warm and fuzzy.

 

If the season were to start today, this would be the rotation:

 

Max Scherzer

Justin Verlander

Carlos Carrasco

David Peterson

Tylor Megill

 

 

[ExWNYer]

4 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

If the season were to start today, this would be the rotation:

 

Max Scherzer

Justin Verlander

Carlos Carrasco

David Peterson

Tylor Megill

 

 

 

If Scherzer &/or Verlander end up shelved at one or more points during the season (very possible, given their ages), that is a rotation that will be looking up in the standings at Atlanta & Philly.

 

<shudders>

 

 

[Gugny]

1 minute ago, ExWNYer said:

 

If Scherzer &/or Verlander end up shelved at one or more points during the season (very possible, given their ages), that is a rotation that will be looking up in the standings at Atlanta & Philly.

 

<shudders>

 

 

 

The Mets didn't run away with the division because Scherzer and deGrom each missed a chunk of the season.

 

They cannot go into this season banking on Scherzer and Verlander staying healthy for the full season.

 

I just can't see them ponying up for Rodon after the Verlander deal and the Diaz deal.  We shall see.  But I agree ... the rotation as-is does not give me any warm fuzzies.

[ExWNYer]

2 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

The Mets didn't run away with the division because Scherzer and deGrom each missed a chunk of the season.

 

They cannot go into this season banking on Scherzer and Verlander staying healthy for the full season.

 

I just can't see them ponying up for Rodon after the Verlander deal and the Diaz deal.  We shall see.  But I agree ... the rotation as-is does not give me any warm fuzzies.

 

Right now they have an old, incomplete rotation, no bullpen outside of Diaz, a huge hole at catcher (can't count on Alvarez coming in and setting the world on fire as a rook), and no power outside of Alonso (and somewhat Lindor). They have a ton of work to do (and money they will have to spend) but, currently, my expectations as compared to last year are nonexistent. Even with the Verlander signing, I am not excited yet for 2023.

 

FYI...useless tidbit...Verlander is from the Richmond area and pitched his high school ball one county over from where I live.

[SinceThe70s]

@ExWNYer @Gugny

 

I like the Verlander signing - I think you need a stud pitcher or two to win the WS. But we'll be in the same boat as we were this year hoping the the top 2 don'ty breakdown.

 

I would love to see them sign Rodon, it would bolster the rotation this year and give us longer term rotation stability. We'll have to wait and see how much more Cohen is willing to spend. Lots of areas of concern:

 

1. Bullpen needs to be rebuilt
2. Nimmo needs to be re-signed or replaced. They are supposedly taking to Benitendi. The guy that wants out of Pittsburgh looks like a better fit.
3. Another power hitter would help - kind of scary that it looks like they may stick with Ruf/Vogelbach at DH.
4. Apart from maybe trading Nido or McCann I don't expect changes at catcher.  Alvarez will be given every chance to win the job. Fingers crossed that addresses catcher and power hitter

[Gugny]

1 minute ago, SinceThe70s said:

@ExWNYer @Gugny

 

I like the Verlander signing - I think you need a stud pitcher or two to win the WS. But we'll be in the same boat as we were this year hoping the the top 2 don'ty breakdown.

 

I would love to see them sign Rodon, it would bolster the rotation this year and give us longer term rotation stability. We'll have to wait and see how much more Cohen is willing to spend. Lots of areas of concern:

 

1. Bullpen needs to be rebuilt
2. Nimmo needs to be re-signed or replaced. They are supposedly taking to Benitendi. The guy that wants out of Pittsburgh looks like a better fit.
3. Another power hitter would help - kind of scary that it looks like they may stick with Ruf/Vogelbach at DH.
4. Apart from maybe trading Nido or McCann I don't expect changes at catcher.  Alvarez will be given every chance to win the job. Fingers crossed that addresses catcher and power hitter

 

Numbers 1-3 are absolutely huge concerns.  I also agree that the kid wanting a trade out of Pittsburgh is a better (MUCH better) fit than Benitendi.  I know he was cheap, but I kind of did a double-take when they re-signed Vogelbach.  Ruf is pure garbage ... as is McCann.  

 

I'd love to see both Alvarez and Baty become full-time players.  But that goes back to DH ... if Alvarez is catching every day, they will definitely need a DH.

 

If they can somehow swing Rodon AND get Walker and/or Bassitt back, then that gives some flexibility for the bullpen with Megill and/or Peterson, if need be.

 

Max Scherzer

Justin Verlander

Carlos Rodon

Carlos Carrasco

Chris Bassitt/Taijuan Walker

 

David Peterson

Tylor Megill

 

I could live with that.

 

[SinceThe70s]

28 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

Numbers 1-3 are absolutely huge concerns.  I also agree that the kid wanting a trade out of Pittsburgh is a better (MUCH better) fit than Benitendi.  I know he was cheap, but I kind of did a double-take when they re-signed Vogelbach.  Ruf is pure garbage ... as is McCann.  

 

I'd love to see both Alvarez and Baty become full-time players.  But that goes back to DH ... if Alvarez is catching every day, they will definitely need a DH.

 

If they can somehow swing Rodon AND get Walker and/or Bassitt back, then that gives some flexibility for the bullpen with Megill and/or Peterson, if need be.

 

Max Scherzer

Justin Verlander

Carlos Rodon

Carlos Carrasco

Chris Bassitt/Taijuan Walker

 

David Peterson

Tylor Megill

 

I could live with that.

 

 

My guess is they won't be able to get both Rodon and Bassitt, but that would be great. Although we'll see how Bassitt reacts to the pitch clock - Canha too.

 

I expect Baty to be given every chance to win the 3B job - but unlike catcher the backup plan there is fine if he needs more time.

 

[ExWNYer]

6 hours ago, SinceThe70s said:

@ExWNYer @Gugny

 

I like the Verlander signing - I think you need a stud pitcher or two to win the WS. But we'll be in the same boat as we were this year hoping the the top 2 don'ty breakdown.

 

I would love to see them sign Rodon, it would bolster the rotation this year and give us longer term rotation stability. We'll have to wait and see how much more Cohen is willing to spend. Lots of areas of concern:

 

1. Bullpen needs to be rebuilt
2. Nimmo needs to be re-signed or replaced. They are supposedly taking to Benitendi. The guy that wants out of Pittsburgh looks like a better fit.
3. Another power hitter would help - kind of scary that it looks like they may stick with Ruf/Vogelbach at DH.
4. Apart from maybe trading Nido or McCann I don't expect changes at catcher.  Alvarez will be given every chance to win the job. Fingers crossed that addresses catcher and power hitter

 

6 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

Numbers 1-3 are absolutely huge concerns.  I also agree that the kid wanting a trade out of Pittsburgh is a better (MUCH better) fit than Benitendi.  I know he was cheap, but I kind of did a double-take when they re-signed Vogelbach.  Ruf is pure garbage ... as is McCann.  

 

I'd love to see both Alvarez and Baty become full-time players.  But that goes back to DH ... if Alvarez is catching every day, they will definitely need a DH.

 

If they can somehow swing Rodon AND get Walker and/or Bassitt back, then that gives some flexibility for the bullpen with Megill and/or Peterson, if need be.

 

Max Scherzer

Justin Verlander

Carlos Rodon

Carlos Carrasco

Chris Bassitt/Taijuan Walker

 

David Peterson

Tylor Megill

 

I could live with that.

 

 

OF Bryan Reynolds. Good young player with a few years of control left so he would not come cheaply and there are reportedly no shortage of suitors. He has a low salary with controllable years so the Pirates will not deal him unless they get several really good prospects in return. He's not in a walk year so they don't have to just take what they can get. If somebody wants him, they are going to have to make it more than worth Pittsburgh's while.

[SinceThe70s]

@Gugny @ExWNYer @Another Fan

 

Not sure if this has any legs but Buster Olney speculating that Rangers/DeGrom might be interested in a trade for McCann:

 

https://www.si.com/mlb/mets/news/new-york-mets-texas-rangers-could-become-trade-partners-for-james-mccann

 

 

[Gugny]

1 hour ago, SinceThe70s said:

@Gugny @ExWNYer @Another Fan

 

Not sure if this has any legs but Buster Olney speculating that Rangers/DeGrom might be interested in a trade for McCann:

 

https://www.si.com/mlb/mets/news/new-york-mets-texas-rangers-could-become-trade-partners-for-james-mccann

 

 

 

I'd trade McCann for a fitted Rangers hat signed by Jake.

[ExWNYer]

1 hour ago, SinceThe70s said:

@Gugny @ExWNYer @Another Fan

 

Not sure if this has any legs but Buster Olney speculating that Rangers/DeGrom might be interested in a trade for McCann:

 

https://www.si.com/mlb/mets/news/new-york-mets-texas-rangers-could-become-trade-partners-for-james-mccann

 

 

 

31 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

I'd trade McCann for a fitted Rangers hat signed by Jake.

 

Be still my beating heart. Please make it so. That would be a sweet parting gift from Jake.

 

@Another Fan

 

Like him or hate him, another starter has been inked, fellas. Mets get the lefty, Quintana, on a 2-year, $26 million deal. Pitchers are starting to ink deals left and right. Not happy that Walker chose to go to Philly but whatever. The Judge overpayment by the Skanks may finally open the spending floodgates.

 

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/35203380/sources-mets-fill-rotation-need-lefty-jose-quintana

 

 

[Gugny]

1 minute ago, ExWNYer said:

 

 

Be still my beating heart. Please make it so. That would be a sweet parting gift from Jake.

 

@Another Fan

 

Like him or hate him, another starter has been inked, fellas. Mets get the lefty, Quintana, on a 2-year, $26 million deal. Pitchers are starting to ink deals left and right. Not happy that Walker chose to go to Philly but whatever. The Judge overpayment by the Skanks may finally open the spending floodgates.

 

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/35203380/sources-mets-fill-rotation-need-lefty-jose-quintana

 

 

 

I'm fine with the Quintana signing.  Don't hate it; not in love with it.

 

Philly loves taking our pitchers, eh?  Eff them.

 

All eyes on Eppler.  Should get very interesting, very soon.

[ExWNYer]

18 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

I'm fine with the Quintana signing.  Don't hate it; not in love with it.

 

Philly loves taking our pitchers, eh?  Eff them.

 

All eyes on Eppler.  Should get very interesting, very soon.

 

Seems that way. I feel about Quintana the way I did Walker. Like him okay, not 'over the moon' happy. I guess that's the feeling you get with a middle or back end of the rotation guy. You just hope they stay healthy and can give you some quality starts. FYI, I was not happy that they let Wheeler walk a few years ago and thought he should have been retained. I stand by that still. He wasn't super expensive and wanted to stay with the Mets but the penny-pinching crooks who are the Coupon family had other ideas. Glad those sh*theads are in the rearview mirror.

[Gugny]

7 minutes ago, ExWNYer said:

 

Seems that way. I feel about Quintana the way I did Walker. Like him okay, not 'over the moon' happy. I guess that's the feeling you get with a middle or back end of the rotation guy. You just hope they stay healthy and can give you some quality starts. FYI, I was not happy that they let Wheeler walk a few years ago and thought he should have been retained. I stand by that still. He wasn't super expensive and wanted to stay with the Mets but the penny-pinching crooks who are the Coupon family had other ideas. Glad those sh*theads are in the rearview mirror.

 

I actually thought Philly paid too much for Wheeler ( 5 year / $118,000,000), but he had a decent 2022.  He's another one who can't seem to stay healthy.

 

I wonder what kind of money Syndergaard is gonna get.

[SinceThe70s]

31 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

I'm fine with the Quintana signing.  Don't hate it; not in love with it.

 

Philly loves taking our pitchers, eh?  Eff them.

 

All eyes on Eppler.  Should get very interesting, very soon.

 

6 minutes ago, ExWNYer said:

 

Seems that way. I feel about Quintana the way I did Walker. Like him okay, not 'over the moon' happy. I guess that's the feeling you get with a middle or back end of the rotation guy. You just hope they stay healthy and can give you some quality starts. FYI, I was not happy that they let Wheeler walk a few years ago and thought he should have been retained. I stand by that still. He wasn't super expensive and wanted to stay with the Mets but the penny-pinching crooks who are the Coupon family had other ideas. Glad those sh*theads are in the rearview mirror.

 

I don't know enough about Quintana to have a strong opinion. But I do like 2 his year deal over the 4 years Walker got.

 

BTW - did you see that Kenley Jansen signed with the Red Sox? Any idea if the Braves have a plan to replace him? 

[Gugny]

35 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

 

I don't know enough about Quintana to have a strong opinion. But I do like 2 his year deal over the 4 years Walker got.

 

BTW - did you see that Kenley Jansen signed with the Red Sox? Any idea if the Braves have a plan to replace him? 

 

That's a nice pickup for the Red Sox and nice to have him out of the NL East.  Braves have Raisel Iglesias, so I think they're all set at closer.

[ExWNYer]

1 hour ago, Gugny said:

 

I actually thought Philly paid too much for Wheeler ( 5 year / $118,000,000), but he had a decent 2022.  He's another one who can't seem to stay healthy.

 

I wonder what kind of money Syndergaard is gonna get.

 

Everything I've heard so far is that interest in Syndergaard around MLB has been lukewarm. A lot of teams are apparently wary of his declining analytics. It will be interesting to see what he gets. With the shortage of arms, someone will take a chance on him. 

 

1 hour ago, SinceThe70s said:

I don't know enough about Quintana to have a strong opinion. But I do like 2 his year deal over the 4 years Walker got.

 

BTW - did you see that Kenley Jansen signed with the Red Sox? Any idea if the Braves have a plan to replace him? 

 

Like Gugs said, Atlanta will be fine. Frustratingly, they are constantly able to make chicken salad out of chicken sh*t to go with all of the elite talent they churn out non-stop. They are a model franchise, unfortunately.

[Another Fan]

7 hours ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

 

I don't know enough about Quintana to have a strong opinion. But I do like 2 his year deal over the 4 years Walker got.

 

BTW - did you see that Kenley Jansen signed with the Red Sox? Any idea if the Braves have a plan to replace him? 

 

Most these pitchers mentioned and players I don't either.  Outside of the Mets there's only a few teams I know a little about.

 

 

My reaction is actually sort of like when the Bills drafted Josh:  Time will tell if this is the right move or not.

 

 

Now the Bills brass really did their due diligence scouting Josh because that was the right move (or they got really lucky).  So all I could hope for is the Mets due their due diligence as well.  Certainly beyond what these guys stats are and think they are they the right fight for the club.  Especially come September/October.  Because the Scherzer outing against the Padres still boils my blood and feel he should be docked some of his pay.  

[SinceThe70s]

@ExWNYer @Gugny @Another Fan

 

Ticking off the boxes - Nimmo signed long term and Robertson joins the bullpen.

 

I expect Nimmo will be a corner outfielder in a year or two.

[Gugny]

39 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

@ExWNYer @Gugny @Another Fan

 

Ticking off the boxes - Nimmo signed long term and Robertson joins the bullpen.

 

I expect Nimmo will be a corner outfielder in a year or two.

 

LOVE both moves!

[ExWNYer]

2 hours ago, SinceThe70s said:

@ExWNYer @Gugny @Another Fan

 

Ticking off the boxes - Nimmo signed long term and Robertson joins the bullpen.

 

I expect Nimmo will be a corner outfielder in a year or two.

 

2 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

LOVE both moves!

 

I said during last season that I wanted Nimmo re-signed. I love him as a player but am shocked that he got $162 million. I thought anything over $125 million for him would be a stretch. Boras is a wizard. Thrilled with the Robertson signing. I wanted him last year and believe he could have made a real difference for them last season. My only worry at this point is that this team still does not have enough punch/power in the lineup. If Alvarez and Baty don't mature quickly during the season, this team could be royally screwed.

[Gugny]

9 hours ago, ExWNYer said:

 

 

I said during last season that I wanted Nimmo re-signed. I love him as a player but am shocked that he got $162 million. I thought anything over $125 million for him would be a stretch. Boras is a wizard. Thrilled with the Robertson signing. I wanted him last year and believe he could have made a real difference for them last season. My only worry at this point is that this team still does not have enough punch/power in the lineup. If Alvarez and Baty don't mature quickly during the season, this team could be royally screwed.

 

If we (they) learned anything from watching the Braves, it's that it took WAY too long to get Baty and Alvarez into the mix.  I think both will benefit from a full spring training and beginning the season on the roster.

 

And I agree ... I would feel much better if we had one more big bat.

[Gugny]

@ExWNYer @Another Fan @SinceThe70s

 

Kodai Senga - 5 years, $75 million.

 

Bassitt just went to Toronto on a 3-year, $63M deal.

 

Looking at Senga's stats in Japan (from ESPN: "Senga, 29, starred over 11 seasons with the Fukuoka SoftBank Hawks of Nippon Professional Baseball, going 104-51 with a 2.42 ERA in 1,340⅔ innings over 275 starts. He is armed with a fastball that has reached triple digits and a split-fingered fastball nicknamed "the Ghost Fork" for how it disappears before reaching the plate."), I think this looks like a win for everyone involved.

 

Finally got a young arm.  I'm fine with five years at his age and $15 million/year could end up being one hell of a bargain.

[SinceThe70s]

15 minutes ago, Gugny said:

@ExWNYer @Another Fan @SinceThe70s

 

Kodai Senga - 5 years, $75 million.

 

Bassitt just went to Toronto on a 3-year, $63M deal.

 

Looking at Senga's stats in Japan (from ESPN: "Senga, 29, starred over 11 seasons with the Fukuoka SoftBank Hawks of Nippon Professional Baseball, going 104-51 with a 2.42 ERA in 1,340⅔ innings over 275 starts. He is armed with a fastball that has reached triple digits and a split-fingered fastball nicknamed "the Ghost Fork" for how it disappears before reaching the plate."), I think this looks like a win for everyone involved.

 

Finally got a young arm.  I'm fine with five years at his age and $15 million/year could end up being one hell of a bargain.

 

I'm not used to getting everything we need - they filled out that rotation quickly! If this guy pans out it's a great deal, especially since we got younger. Hopefully in the next year or so we're rotating in some combination of Alvarez/Baty/Vientos and rotating out guys like Escobar/Canha/McCann.

 

What's crazy to me is the length of contracts being given out. I suppose it gives teams cost certainty, but it seems like more often than not the long term deals become albatrosses.

 

 

 

 

[Gugny]

26 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

I'm not used to getting everything we need - they filled out that rotation quickly! If this guy pans out it's a great deal, especially since we got younger. Hopefully in the next year or so we're rotating in some combination of Alvarez/Baty/Vientos and rotating out guys like Escobar/Canha/McCann.

 

What's crazy to me is the length of contracts being given out. I suppose it gives teams cost certainty, but it seems like more often than not the long term deals become albatrosses.

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, I've never been a fan of megadeals (one more reason to hate Alex Rodriguez), but it's just where baseball is.

 

Not a megadeal, but I'm still floored that deGrom got five years with his injury history.  I am so glad the Mets didn't do that (if they'd had the chance, anyway).  

 

If Alvarez, Baty AND Vientos all turn out to be the answer at their respective positions, then the Mets are gonna be good for a long, long time.  Here's to hoping!!

[ExWNYer]

6 hours ago, Gugny said:

@ExWNYer @Another Fan @SinceThe70s

 

Kodai Senga - 5 years, $75 million.

 

Bassitt just went to Toronto on a 3-year, $63M deal.

 

Looking at Senga's stats in Japan (from ESPN: "Senga, 29, starred over 11 seasons with the Fukuoka SoftBank Hawks of Nippon Professional Baseball, going 104-51 with a 2.42 ERA in 1,340⅔ innings over 275 starts. He is armed with a fastball that has reached triple digits and a split-fingered fastball nicknamed "the Ghost Fork" for how it disappears before reaching the plate."), I think this looks like a win for everyone involved.

 

Finally got a young arm.  I'm fine with five years at his age and $15 million/year could end up being one hell of a bargain.

 

Agree. Gugs. I was hoping they would land Senga. I hope he assimilates well to the majors. As I said before, I think he could be a decent reliever, if he doesn't do so well in the middle/backend of the rotation. I liked Bassitt but he left a sour taste in my mouth at the end of the season and, based on some of his comments, I don't think he was made for the pressure of NYC. He had some thinly-veiled excuses for his performance down the stretch. Out with the old, in with the new. LGM!

[SinceThe70s]

@ExWNYer @Gugny @Another Fan

 

You guys got any info/feels on Correa? I had heard on the radio that Correa would only move to 3rd for the Mets and scoffed at it.

 

Tonight my son said that Correa to the Mets is still a talking point. I think he gets his sh!t from bleacher report - does that make it less credible?  Seems like a long shot to me - except that many players are getting long term contracts.

 

Put a different way: would you put it past Cohen to pony up the $$$ for Correa in the hope we win the WS in the next two years? (His initial goal was within 3)

[Gugny]

16 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

@ExWNYer @Gugny @Another Fan

 

You guys got any info/feels on Correa? I had heard on the radio that Correa would only move to 3rd for the Mets and scoffed at it.

 

Tonight my son said that Correa to the Mets is still a talking point. I think he gets his sh!t from bleacher report - does that make it less credible?  Seems like a long shot to me - except that many players are getting long term contracts.

 

Put a different way: would you put it past Cohen to pony up the $$$ for Correa in the hope we win the WS in the next two years? (His initial goal was within 3)

 

I need to scour the interwebs more, but my gut tells me I would NOT put it past Cohen.

[SinceThe70s]

8 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

I need to scour the interwebs more, but my gut tells me I would NOT put it past Cohen.

 

LOL, cancel that search- looks like 13 years $350 million was too rich for Cohen.

 

[Gugny]

19 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

LOL, cancel that search- looks like 13 years $350 million was too rich for Cohen.

 

HOLY CRAP!!!

[SinceThe70s]

1 minute ago, Gugny said:

HOLY CRAP!!!

 

I find these long term deals mind-boggling. At some point I wonder if bottom feeders like the Pirates will benefit from young talent coming in and not having a runway to land on.

[ExWNYer]

Landing Correa was never going to happen. Even Cohen has a limit. They are already historically over the tax threshold. If they weren't going to spend for Rodon, they certainly weren't going spend even more for Correa.

[SinceThe70s]

2 hours ago, ExWNYer said:

Landing Correa was never going to happen. Even Cohen has a limit. They are already historically over the tax threshold. If they weren't going to spend for Rodon, they certainly weren't going spend even more for Correa.

 

Well, everyone has their limit - but I'm not sure we know what Cohen's is yet. In hindsight I wouldn't want or expect Cohen to sign on the dotted line of a 13 year deal, but beyond that none of his actions thus far have hinted at what his limit is. Correa had to settle for a one year deal with the Minnesota Twins last year and for whatever reason didn't appear to be highly sought until the he signed his monster deal - so it wouldn't have surprised me in the least if Cohen would've offered half as much as he got over lets say 4-5 years. BTW, not saying he would've or should've done that, just that I'm in a place where I have no idea what his limit is since he already exceeded my expectation this off season - and I wouldn't be  surprised at all if he spent more money to upgrade DH.

[ExWNYer]

6 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

Well, everyone has their limit - but I'm not sure we know what Cohen's is yet. In hindsight I wouldn't want or expect Cohen to sign on the dotted line of a 13 year deal, but beyond that none of his actions thus far have hinted at what his limit is. Correa had to settle for a one year deal with the Minnesota Twins last year and for whatever reason didn't appear to be highly sought until the he signed his monster deal - so it wouldn't have surprised me in the least if Cohen would've offered half as much as he got over lets say 4-5 years. BTW, not saying he would've or should've done that, just that I'm in a place where I have no idea what his limit is since he already exceeded my expectation this off season - and I wouldn't be  surprised at all if he spent more money to upgrade DH.

 

I agree and I wouldn't put anything past Cohen. Rather that emphatically stating, "Landing Correa was never going to happen", I guess I should have phrased it, "I can't see it happening." At what dollar amount does Cohen set his 'line of demarcation'? It's logical to think that even he has to have a point of diminishing returns calculated in his World Series-chasing brain. Nothing about Cohen shocks me anymore but, barring some sort of trade by the front office, I would expect anything else to be a peripheral or complementary move such as a tweak(s) to the bullpen or bench/DH, not a Correa level addition. I can see him adding more money to the payroll, just not a monster/major contract.

[SinceThe70s]

2 minutes ago, ExWNYer said:

 

I agree and I wouldn't put anything past Cohen. Rather that emphatically stating, "Landing Correa was never going to happen", I guess I should have phrased it, "I can't see it happening." At what dollar amount does Cohen set his 'line of demarcation'? It's logical to think that even he has to have a point of diminishing returns calculated in his World Series-chasing brain. Nothing about Cohen shocks me anymore but, barring some sort of trade by the front office, I would expect anything else to be a peripheral or complementary move such as a tweak(s) to the bullpen or bench/DH, not a Correa level addition. I can see him adding more money to the payroll, just not a monster/major contract.

 

Agreed.  I'm not expecting another big move either. If anything I could see salary dumps of McCann or Carrasco - but that's what a normal team would look to do so who knows?

[ExWNYer]

2 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

Agreed.  I'm not expecting another big move either. If anything I could see salary dumps of McCann or Carrasco - but that's what a normal team would look to do so who knows?

 

 

[Gugny]

Syndergaard to the Dodgers.  One year, $13 million.  Angels gave him $21 million for one year last season.