Mets fans?

[ExWNYer]

19 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

I also wonder about where Mauricio slots in. TBH I haven't watched much over the past month but from what I saw he looks like a legit MLB hitter - which makes me think he has a questionable glove? Pure speculation on my part with nothing to back it up other than questioning why he wasn't brought up sooner.

 

Baty looks like a guy that's gonna have to be a big plus at the plate cuz to me he looks uninspiring in the field.

 

I was just telling wifey that it's amazing how much a Bills win changes my mental state - especially one like today's.

 

I think Mauricio's future is partially tied to Baty's development. If Baty pans out as the 3B then Mauricio is the 2B. If Baty bombs then Mauricio assumes the mantel at 3B. While I am not sure of Baty at this point, I have a hard time not seeing Mauricio on the roster to start the season. Baty is going to have to have a helluva off season and Spring Training, IMO. I wouldn't mind seeing him play winter ball.

[SinceThe70s]

2 minutes ago, ExWNYer said:

 

I think Mauricio's future is partially tied to Baty's development. If Baty pans out as the 3B then Mauricio is the 2B. If Baty bombs then Mauricio assumes the mantel at 3B. While I am not sure of Baty at this point, I have a hard time not seeing Mauricio on the roster to start the season. Baty is going to have to have a helluva off season and Spring Training, IMO. I wouldn't mind seeing him play winter ball.

 

Agreed. But I also wonder if Vientos factors in similarly.  I think Vientos showed as much at the plate as Baty but with less of a chance.

[ExWNYer]

36 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

Agreed. But I also wonder if Vientos factors in similarly.  I think Vientos showed as much at the plate as Baty but with less of a chance.

 

IMO, the only path forward for Vientos is as part of a DH platoon. I don't see a position for him other than to occasionally spell the regulars at 1B or 3B.

[Another Fan]

@ExWNYer @Gugny @SinceThe70s

 

A very sort of pass the work day exercise for me.  I’ll probably watch very little or none of the baseball playoffs.

 

But I’m wondering if you guys have a memory of a Mets team that missed out on making the playoffs because of 3 Wild Cards now and coulda done damage.

 

 

I was in 8th grade but I remember the 1997 Mets were a fun team.  Under this new format the 98, 07, and 08 teams woulda make the playoffs.  But they were kinda coming apart at the seams by the end of the year.  And the 2021 Mets didn’t do much in the playoffs 

 

So I’d go the 1997 purely on memory without analyzing it too much.  I mean the Marlins won that year 

[ExWNYer]

37 minutes ago, Another Fan said:

@ExWNYer @Gugny @SinceThe70s

 

A very sort of pass the work day exercise for me.  I’ll probably watch very little or none of the baseball playoffs.

 

But I’m wondering if you guys have a memory of a Mets team that missed out on making the playoffs because of 3 Wild Cards now and coulda done damage.

 

 

I was in 8th grade but I remember the 1997 Mets were a fun team.  Under this new format the 98, 07, and 08 teams woulda make the playoffs.  But they were kinda coming apart at the seams by the end of the year.  And the 2021 Mets didn’t do much in the playoffs 

 

So I’d go the 1997 purely on memory without analyzing it too much.  I mean the Marlins won that year 

 

@Gugny  @SinceThe70s

 

I tuned in for a few minutes of the Marlins @ Philthies game in the 7th. Wheeler had been owning them up until that point and exited after 6 2/3 and allowing a run that inning with runners on base. It still irritates me that the 'Coupons' let him walk. His contract was not outrageous and he would be a very good two or three for the Mets right now.

 

A little before your time @Another Fan but the only teams that come to mind for me might be the Davey Johnson teams of the mid-1980s. It's still disappointing that those squads only won a single World Series. The 1985 team was really, really good but finished 3 games behind a 101 win St. Louis Cardinals team:

 

1984: 90-72 (2nd in NL East)

1985: 98-64 (2nd in NL East)

1987: 92-70 (2nd in NL East)

[SinceThe70s]

12 minutes ago, ExWNYer said:

 

@Gugny  @SinceThe70s

 

I tuned in for a few minutes of the Marlins @ Philthies game in the 7th. Wheeler had been owning them up until that point and exited after 6 2/3 and allowing a run that inning with runners on base. It still irritates me that the 'Coupons' let him walk. His contract was not outrageous and he would be a very good two or three for the Mets right now.

 

A little before your time @Another Fan but the only teams that come to mind for me might be the Davey Johnson teams of the mid-1980s. It's still disappointing that those squads only won a single World Series. The 1985 team was really, really good but finished 3 games behind a 101 win St. Louis Cardinals team:

 

1984: 90-72 (2nd in NL East)

1985: 98-64 (2nd in NL East)

1987: 92-70 (2nd in NL East)

 

I would've gone with the '85 team too. That team wasn't all that different from the '86 team. Gooden was much more dominant in '85, but the '85 team didn't have Ojeda or Kevin Mitchell - on the other hand the '85 team did have Calvin Schiraldi.

 

And @ExWNYer - if you want to lament a guy that got away, how about Kevin Mitchell? Supposedly they dumped him because he was a bad influence on Doc and Darryl.

[ExWNYer]

1 minute ago, SinceThe70s said:

And @ExWNYer - if you want to lament a guy that got away, how about Kevin Mitchell? Supposedly they dumped him because he was a bad influence on Doc and Darryl.

 

Yeah, that was laughable. Doc, Daryl, Keith, 'Nails'...they were all cokeheads &/or booze hounds. 'Kid' & Knight were about the only 'holy rollers' of the bunch.

[Another Fan]

7 hours ago, ExWNYer said:

 

Yeah, that was laughable. Doc, Daryl, Keith, 'Nails'...they were all cokeheads &/or booze hounds. 'Kid' & Knight were about the only 'holy rollers' of the bunch.

I thought Mookie was a clean living guy.

 

Yeah Davey J was before my time but would you agree Bobby V got more out of his teams than Davey did?  

[ExWNYer]

13 hours ago, Another Fan said:

I thought Mookie was a clean living guy.

 

Yeah Davey J was before my time but would you agree Bobby V got more out of his teams than Davey did?  

 

You're right about Mookie. Sorry, I should have included him.

 

I like Bobby V but I don't know that he was a better manager than Davey Johnson. DJ was tasked with keeping all of those massive, partying egos in check & on task and he does have the 1986 Championship on his resume. Nobody since him has one, including BV. If one wanted to argue that Bobby V "got more out of his teams", I don't think I would argue that point. It's a valid thought and certainly open for debate. They were both good in their own right. Bobby certainly gets the edge in moustaches. 😉 😂

[Gugny]

@ExWNYer @SinceThe70s @Another Fan

 

I am mentally preparing myself to say goodbye to Pete Alonso. 
 

He just hired Scott Boras to be his agent. 
 

I am sick of this douche ruining baseball and I really hate the 10+ year mega deals. 
 

I realize that it’s part of the game now and that Cohen has bottomless pockets with no salary cap … but I just hate Boras. 
 

I think we may have seen the last of Pete in a Mets uniform. 
 

On an unrelated note - looks like Counsel is the favorite to replace Buck. 
 

That would be a great hire, IMO. 

[Another Fan]

2 hours ago, ExWNYer said:

 

You're right about Mookie. Sorry, I should have included him.

 

I like Bobby V but I don't know that he was a better manager than Davey Johnson. DJ was tasked with keeping all of those massive, partying egos in check & on task and he does have the 1986 Championship on his resume. Nobody since him has one, including BV. If one wanted to argue that Bobby V "got more out of his teams", I don't think I would argue that point. It's a valid thought and certainly open for debate. They were both good in their own right. Bobby certainly gets the edge in moustaches. 😉 😂

Did you ever read The Bad Guys Won by Jeff Pearlman?  It chronicled the 1986 team.  That’s where a lot of my knowledge of them came from.

 

In my opinion it came off a little on the tabloidish side but a decent and quick read 

21 minutes ago, Gugny said:

@ExWNYer @SinceThe70s @Another Fan

 

I am mentally preparing myself to say goodbye to Pete Alonso. 
 

He just hired Scott Boras to be his agent. 
 

I am sick of this douche ruining baseball and I really hate the 10+ year mega deals. 
 

I realize that it’s part of the game now and that Cohen has bottomless pockets with no salary cap … but I just hate Boras. 
 

I think we may have seen the last of Pete in a Mets uniform. 
 

On an unrelated note - looks like Counsel is the favorite to replace Buck. 
 

That would be a great hire, IMO. 

Only hesitation I’d have on Counsel is he doesn’t exactly strike me as a New York kind of guy.  But I agree he knows his stuff 

 

 

Yeah read this

 

https://nypost.com/2023/10/03/cubs-will-do-everything-they-can-to-land-mets-pete-alonso/amp/

[Gugny]

1 hour ago, Another Fan said:

Did you ever read The Bad Guys Won by Jeff Pearlman?  It chronicled the 1986 team.  That’s where a lot of my knowledge of them came from.

 

In my opinion it came off a little on the tabloidish side but a decent and quick read 

Only hesitation I’d have on Counsel is he doesn’t exactly strike me as a New York kind of guy.  But I agree he knows his stuff 

 

 

Yeah read this

 

https://nypost.com/2023/10/03/cubs-will-do-everything-they-can-to-land-mets-pete-alonso/amp/

Alonso is better and younger than Judge - and actually plays most of every season. 
 

Also younger, better and more durable when Harper got his deal. 
 

Pete is gonna make some money. 
 

Mets would be asinine not to trade him, IMO.  Coming off another great year and healthy. 
 

They could land an impact player AND top prospects. 

Edited October 5, 2023 by Gugny

[ExWNYer]

2 hours ago, Another Fan said:

Did you ever read The Bad Guys Won by Jeff Pearlman?  It chronicled the 1986 team.  That’s where a lot of my knowledge of them came from.

 

In my opinion it came off a little on the tabloidish side but a decent and quick read 

Only hesitation I’d have on Counsel is he doesn’t exactly strike me as a New York kind of guy.  But I agree he knows his stuff 

 

I remember the book but never read it. Thanks.

[ExWNYer]

3 hours ago, Gugny said:

@ExWNYer @SinceThe70s @Another Fan

 

I am mentally preparing myself to say goodbye to Pete Alonso. 
 

He just hired Scott Boras to be his agent. 
 

I am sick of this douche ruining baseball and I really hate the 10+ year mega deals. 
 

I realize that it’s part of the game now and that Cohen has bottomless pockets with no salary cap … but I just hate Boras. 
 

I think we may have seen the last of Pete in a Mets uniform. 
 

On an unrelated note - looks like Counsel is the favorite to replace Buck. 
 

That would be a great hire, IMO. 

 

 @SinceThe70s @Another Fan

 

I agree with all of what you wrote, Gugs. I thought Stearns' comments at his presser on Monday about Alonso being with the team next season or in their plans next season seemed a little inauspicious. It wasn't, "Yeah, signing him to a long-term deal is one of our priorities this off-season". That coupled with the reports during the season that they were fielding offers for him and now with him hiring Boras, the writing may be on the wall. We'll see. I hope he stays with an extension. If Cohen really wants him he'll pony up the shekels but, either way, Pete is gonna get his bag. If they don't see him in their long-term plans, they'd be foolish not to deal him at the Winter Meetings and maximize their return. Power hitters like him don't grow on trees and God knows they don't for the Mets. If he goes, it will be a shame because I think he will shatter every record in team history by a position player (other than batting average), if he stays.

 

Agree 100% on Boras. I know his clients love him because he is maximizing every penny they get but he is a scumbag, IMO, and I have never liked him.

 

On another note, I hope they sign the starting pitcher Yoshinobu Yamamoto from Japan and go all out for Ohtani. Shohei can fill a huge need at power bat, especially, if Pete is dealt or walks after 2024 and he'll be another high end pitcher in a year or so when he's ready to take the bump again.

 

[SinceThe70s]

@ExWNYer @Another Fan @Gugny

 

So Eppler walks away unexpectedly today. It seemed fishy when I first heard it and now it's come out that Mets are under investigation  by MLB for improper use of the injured list.

 

The other tidbit that came out was a rift between Buck and Eppler over the use of Vogelbach - with Buck questioning why he was still on the team after the trade deadline.  This makes me happy that Eppler is gone - it also might partially explain why Vientos didn't get more playing time.

 

BTW, completely agree with comments about Boras. And while I can't stand the long term deals either, Pete is the type of player that I'd give one to.  If we let him go I'm gonna start hating on Stearns.

[ExWNYer]

1 hour ago, SinceThe70s said:

@ExWNYer @Another Fan @Gugny

 

So Eppler walks away unexpectedly today. It seemed fishy when I first heard it and now it's come out that Mets are under investigation  by MLB for improper use of the injured list.

 

The other tidbit that came out was a rift between Buck and Eppler over the use of Vogelbach - with Buck questioning why he was still on the team after the trade deadline.  This makes me happy that Eppler is gone - it also might partially explain why Vientos didn't get more playing time.

 

BTW, completely agree with comments about Boras. And while I can't stand the long term deals either, Pete is the type of player that I'd give one to.  If we let him go I'm gonna start hating on Stearns.

 

@Gugny @Another Fan

 

I have made no bones about it regarding my feelings for Billy 'Eppler-lectic fit'. You guys know I was not a fan. I was ambivalent about Buck going but am pleased about Eppler going. Clean sweep. Now start proving what you can do Wunderkind Stearns & Uncle Steve.

Edited October 6, 2023 by ExWNYer

[SinceThe70s]

@ExWNYer @Gugny @Another Fan

 

Are you fellas paying any attention to the post season? By and large I'm not, but I tuned in a little today.

 

Braves/Phillies is a death or boola-boola scenario for me. If you don't know the joke, death sounds better than boola-boola until you find out that it's death by boola-boola. 

 

There's an outside chance we'll get a Scherzer/Verlander matchup next series. I'll refer back to death or boola-boola.

 

With nothing left to cheer for I turned on D'Bags/Dodgers. I'm rooting for the D'Bags. In the 3rd inning the Bags go yard 3 times. Another D'bag hits one but it gets over-turned on replay (foul) - and on the next pitch he hits it out!  #LFGBags!!!

 

 

[ExWNYer]

7 hours ago, SinceThe70s said:

@ExWNYer @Gugny @Another Fan

 

Are you fellas paying any attention to the post season? By and large I'm not, but I tuned in a little today.

 

Braves/Phillies is a death or boola-boola scenario for me. If you don't know the joke, death sounds better than boola-boola until you find out that it's death by boola-boola. 

 

There's an outside chance we'll get a Scherzer/Verlander matchup next series. I'll refer back to death or boola-boola.

 

With nothing left to cheer for I turned on D'Bags/Dodgers. I'm rooting for the D'Bags. In the 3rd inning the Bags go yard 3 times. Another D'bag hits one but it gets over-turned on replay (foul) - and on the next pitch he hits it out!  #LFGBags!!!

 

 

 

@Gugny @Another Fan

 

Nice post, agree with everything. Watching our two hated NL East rivals playing to advance is like being asked if you'd rather be shot or stabbed. Whenever I think I might want one of them to win over the other, I throw-up a little in my mouth (sorry if you're reading this over breakfast). Boola-boola everyone! I'm 'ride or die' at this point with Arizona. I can't stand either of the other two NL teams still battling...or Houston who is now in the ALCS for a seventh consecutive year (gimme a break)...and there is no way I'm pulling for Scherzer to get another ring. Bring it, Snakes!

 

The possible prospect Scherzer v Verlander gives me the heebie jeebies, as well. Seriously, baseball gods? 

 

Last night was the second...maybe third time...I've flipped on this season's playoffs. When did I turn on the game? It was the bottom of the second at 0-0. I decided to hang around for the third and was treated to the D-backs HR barrage in the bottom of the inning. If you watched, you literally witnessed history being made. Ron Darling said that it was the first time in MLB history that four HRs were hit in the same inning. Wow, was that something to behold. The "BEAT L-A!!!" chant by the Arizona crowd was the icing on the cake. And hitting the fourth HR immediately after the previous pitch was declared a HR down the rightfield line only to be overturned (and rightfully so) was something straight out of a Hollywood movie. Sooooooo, yeah...thank you for that, baseball gods. 😇

[SinceThe70s]

@ExWNYer @Gugny @Another Fan

 

Turned on the game tonight in the hopes of seeing Max get lit up. Top 3rd and he's given up 4 runs so far. Good times.

[Another Fan]

10 hours ago, SinceThe70s said:

@ExWNYer @Gugny @Another Fan

 

Turned on the game tonight in the hopes of seeing Max get lit up. Top 3rd and he's given up 4 runs so far. Good times.

Well the other side to that is I’m not sure how much of an anti Philly guy you are but they seem to be rocking and rolling

 

 

Id still root for them in the World Series over the Rangers (not that I’d watch an inning of it).  What probably influences my decision is really no contact with Phillies fans at all in my life 

[SinceThe70s]

1 hour ago, Another Fan said:

Well the other side to that is I’m not sure how much of an anti Philly guy you are but they seem to be rocking and rolling

 

 

Id still root for them in the World Series over the Rangers (not that I’d watch an inning of it).  What probably influences my decision is really no contact with Phillies fans at all in my life 

 

I'm at the point where unless it's the D'Backs I'll be unhappy with whoever wins the WS. My pecking order is:

 

1) D'backs

2) Rangers (but I want to see Max get lit up every time he takes the mound)

3) Astros

4) !@#$ the Phillies 

[ExWNYer]

On 10/19/2023 at 8:55 AM, SinceThe70s said:

 

I'm at the point where unless it's the D'Backs I'll be unhappy with whoever wins the WS. My pecking order is:

 

1) D'backs

2) Rangers (but I want to see Max get lit up every time he takes the mound)

3) Astros

4) !@#$ the Phillies 

 

@Gugny @Another Fan

 

We're pretty much simpatico on this, brother....especially #4. The only thing I would flip is Astros at #2 and Rangers at #3. I don't like the Astros at all but I'm used to them at this point and I find Velander to be slightly less of a douche nozzle than Scherzer. Plus the Rangers have never won anything and I don't need to see another Dallas/Ft. Worth team hoist a trophy....any trophy...ever again.

 

BTW, I checked in on the Philthies @ D'backs game last night when it was 2-2, left and came back to see Arizona issue three straight walks to open the top of the 6th, left again, came back to see they were down 4-2 and immediately left again figuring it was over, then checked one last time...and to my surprise...they were up 6-5 in the top of the 9th. Stayed to watch Paul Sewald (I miss you, Paul) shut them down to tie the series at 2-2. I'm shocked. I thought the series was over when Arizona went down two games to none. Finish these scumbags, Snakes!

 

#LFGM

[Gugny]

@ExWNYer @Another Fan @SinceThe70s

 

I’m all in on an AZ/TX World Series wITH AZ winning it. 
 

I despise the Phillies and the Astros. If that’s the WS matchup, I hate to say it, but I’d root for Philly. 
 

This has nothing to do with the Astros’ cheating scandal. 
 

I just think they’re a bunch of arrogant pricks. 
 

But they are - and have been - a hell of a ball team. 
 

I haven’t watched a lick of postseason baseball. Probably the first time in my adult life I’ve skipped this much of the post season. 
 

I plan to tune into the World Series and - regardless of the teams - I really want to see some high quality baseball. 

[ExWNYer]

8 minutes ago, Gugny said:

@ExWNYer @Another Fan @SinceThe70s

 

I’m all in on an AZ/TX World Series wITH AZ winning it. 
 

I despise the Phillies and the Astros. If that’s the WS matchup, I hate to say it, but I’d root for Philly. 
 

This has nothing to do with the Astros’ cheating scandal. 
 

I just think they’re a bunch of arrogant pricks. 
 

But they are - and have been - a hell of a ball team. 
 

I haven’t watched a lick of postseason baseball. Probably the first time in my adult life I’ve skipped this much of the post season. 
 

I plan to tune into the World Series and - regardless of the teams - I really want to see some high quality baseball. 

 

The only time I would be okay with Philly winning the World Series would be against the Skanks. Nobody is more of an arrogant prick than Bryce Harper. Can't stand him and couldn't when he was with the Natalies either. This Philthies team has no shortage of arrogant pricks either but at least the Astros have earned that right to be that way.

 

This little gem only reinforces my never-ending despise of the Philthies...

 

“ 'F*ck the Bravos, and whoever the f*ck we play next, and always the Mets', a group of Phillies players, led by backup catcher Garrett Stubbs, chanted in their clubhouse while celebrating another NLDS upset win over the Atlanta Braves. The phrase started off promising, with the Mets and Phillies likely willing to agree that the Braves are far from allies. But the Phillies had to declare war on the Mets as well, who are likely just enjoying their offseason and watching the playoffs from the couch after a disappointing season."

 

https://nypost.com/2023/10/13/phillies-say-f-k-everybody-and-always-the-mets-after-nlds-win/   

 

Who the f*ck is Garrett Stubbs??

[Another Fan]

2 hours ago, Gugny said:

@ExWNYer @Another Fan @SinceThe70s

 

I’m all in on an AZ/TX World Series wITH AZ winning it. 
 

I despise the Phillies and the Astros. If that’s the WS matchup, I hate to say it, but I’d root for Philly. 
 

This has nothing to do with the Astros’ cheating scandal. 
 

I just think they’re a bunch of arrogant pricks. 
 

But they are - and have been - a hell of a ball team. 
 

I haven’t watched a lick of postseason baseball. Probably the first time in my adult life I’ve skipped this much of the post season. 
 

I plan to tune into the World Series and - regardless of the teams - I really want to see some high quality baseball. 

Is that you think due to how much emphasis is placed on analytics in today's game?

 

One article on it

 

https://nypost.com/2022/04/21/mlbs-marriage-with-analytics-changing-baseball-for-the-worse/

 

 

I've been checked out the last few seasons in the post season with the Mets being home.  2017 was the last year I cared a little about the MLB Playoffs enough to watch the games.    Baseball today just seems so long, boring and heartless by this for me.  

 

I still prefer the old school manager type.  That's why whether that was fair or not Buck seemed to be my #1 disappointment last season for how underperforming the team was 

[Gugny]

1 hour ago, Another Fan said:

Is that you think due to how much emphasis is placed on analytics in today's game?

 

One article on it

 

https://nypost.com/2022/04/21/mlbs-marriage-with-analytics-changing-baseball-for-the-worse/

 

 

I've been checked out the last few seasons in the post season with the Mets being home.  2017 was the last year I cared a little about the MLB Playoffs enough to watch the games.    Baseball today just seems so long, boring and heartless by this for me.  

 

I still prefer the old school manager type.  That's why whether that was fair or not Buck seemed to be my #1 disappointment last season for how underperforming the team was 

I haven’t let the analytics ruin it for me. 
 

Of all the Manfred-era rule changes, the only one I hate is the runner on 2nd for extra innings. 
 

But I just think it boils down to having better things to do/better stuff to watch. 
 

[SinceThe70s]

@ExWNYer @Gugny @Another Fan

 

I have to admit that seeing Shamu Sea World Sewald blow the save put a grinchy grin on my face. 

 

On a more interesting note, did anyone see the quotes from Pham about 'the drive not being there with the Mets'. Comments didn't come off as vindictive, just matter of fact. I'm curious who he was referring to.

 

https://nypost.com/2023/10/26/sports/mets-didnt-have-dangerous-drive-like-diamondbacks-tommy-pham/

[SinceThe70s]

LMFAO - didn't realize Miguel Castro was a D'back until he lost the game on the first batter he faced. Unlike Shamu I never had anything against Castro - saw enough out of him to give me hope. 

[Another Fan]

10 hours ago, SinceThe70s said:

@ExWNYer @Gugny @Another Fan

 

I have to admit that seeing Shamu Sea World Sewald blow the save put a grinchy grin on my face. 

 

On a more interesting note, did anyone see the quotes from Pham about 'the drive not being there with the Mets'. Comments didn't come off as vindictive, just matter of fact. I'm curious who he was referring to.

 

https://nypost.com/2023/10/26/sports/mets-didnt-have-dangerous-drive-like-diamondbacks-tommy-pham/

Not really surprised.

 

That's why from my point of view whether that was fair or not Buck was my main source of frustration last season.  I mean traditionally that should be the manager that should be instilling motivation, fear, discipline, etc...  in the club.  But I understand as well the front office has more and more power when it comes to how the day to day operations roll so to speak 

[ExWNYer]

On 10/27/2023 at 11:37 PM, SinceThe70s said:

@ExWNYer @Gugny @Another Fan

 

I have to admit that seeing Shamu Sea World Sewald blow the save put a grinchy grin on my face. 

 

On a more interesting note, did anyone see the quotes from Pham about 'the drive not being there with the Mets'. Comments didn't come off as vindictive, just matter of fact. I'm curious who he was referring to.

 

https://nypost.com/2023/10/26/sports/mets-didnt-have-dangerous-drive-like-diamondbacks-tommy-pham/

 

Pham said it in the clubhouse when he was still with the Mets so he didn't throw anybody under the bus here. He told them they didn't work hard enough. Apparently, one player he specified was Lindor. He's never been one to shy away from his opinions. Based on what he's doing now versus what the Mets did this year, it's hard to refute his accusation. BTW, he went 4-4 in Game 2 of the World Series, a 9-1 Arizona win. Go Snakes!

[SinceThe70s]

19 hours ago, ExWNYer said:

 

Pham said it in the clubhouse when he was still with the Mets so he didn't throw anybody under the bus here. He told them they didn't work hard enough. Apparently, one player he specified was Lindor. He's never been one to shy away from his opinions. Based on what he's doing now versus what the Mets did this year, it's hard to refute his accusation. BTW, he went 4-4 in Game 2 of the World Series, a 9-1 Arizona win. Go Snakes!

 

Just saw this from the game last night. Pham gave up a chance at history so a teammate could get a WS at bat after going 4-4. I'm guessing that nobody realized that 5-5 would have been a WS first. I'd also like to know why it was imperative to give Peterson an AB in game 2, I assume he won't suit up for many games.

 

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/38776351/tommy-pham-asked-sit-jace-peterson-appear-ws

[ExWNYer]

9 hours ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

Just saw this from the game last night. Pham gave up a chance at history so a teammate could get a WS at bat after going 4-4. I'm guessing that nobody realized that 5-5 would have been a WS first. I'd also like to know why it was imperative to give Peterson an AB in game 2, I assume he won't suit up for many games.

 

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/38776351/tommy-pham-asked-sit-jace-peterson-appear-ws

 

Yeah, I saw that. Whether he was aware or not, it was a great act of selflessness on the part of Pham. Kudos to him. Peterson definitely wasn't aware and said after the game, "If I would have known that, I probably would have said, 'No, you're going to chase this record'." Their manager, Torey Lovullo, was skewered on social media and Pham had to go on there and defend him by saying that he (Pham) asked to be removed to give Peterson his AB. The cesspool that is social media...and the bane of modern society...never fails to disappoint.

[Another Fan]

@ExWNYer @SinceThe70s @Gugny

 

Well this hire came out of left field completely to me anyway.  I'm assuming Craig Counsell didn't want to leave Milwaukee.  

 

But my first honest reaction on hearing the news was Carlos Mendoza.....  Okay.  Who The Hell Is This Guy?

 

 

I'm assuming you will all have some strong and entertaining opinions on this topic!  

[SinceThe70s]

4 minutes ago, Another Fan said:

@ExWNYer @SinceThe70s @Gugny

 

Well this hire came out of left field completely to me anyway.  I'm assuming Craig Counsell didn't want to leave Milwaukee.  

 

But my first honest reaction on hearing the news was Carlos Mendoza.....  Okay.  Who The Hell Is This Guy?

 

 

I'm assuming you will all have some strong and ,  opinions on this topic!  

 

Actually Counsell went to Chicago. I don't really care that the Mets 'missed out' on him, but the other names I heard weren't inspiring. Case in point: Carlos Mendoza. I don't like the fact that he was the Yankees bench coach and as far as I know he's never managed so he steps up the plate with two strikes. But I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and also  hope he's not a puppet.

[Gugny]

25 minutes ago, Another Fan said:

@ExWNYer @SinceThe70s @Gugny

 

Well this hire came out of left field completely to me anyway.  I'm assuming Craig Counsell didn't want to leave Milwaukee.  

 

But my first honest reaction on hearing the news was Carlos Mendoza.....  Okay.  Who The Hell Is This Guy?

 

 

I'm assuming you will all have some strong and entertaining opinions on this topic!  

All I wanted … and I don’t think it was a lot to ask … is that we got a PROVEN manager … i.e. - one with at least an hour of f*cking experience!!!

 

I am not happy about this hire. 
 

Learned the ropes by sitting next to one of the most overrated, horrible managers in MLB history. 
 

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK !!!!

[Another Fan]

34 minutes ago, Gugny said:

All I wanted … and I don’t think it was a lot to ask … is that we got a PROVEN manager … i.e. - one with at least an hour of f*cking experience!!!

 

I am not happy about this hire. 
 

Learned the ropes by sitting next to one of the most overrated, horrible managers in MLB history. 
 

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK !!!!

I hear that.

 

I did a little more leg work on Mendoza's background.....  My gut feeling now is the front office wants someone they can dictate their analytics/strategies too as a manager that won't really question their decision making.  Like this dude is real happy to land a high profile job like this and won't make waves so to speak.

 

Hope I'm wrong  

 

 

[Gugny]

50 minutes ago, Another Fan said:

I hear that.

 

I did a little more leg work on Mendoza's background.....  My gut feeling now is the front office wants someone they can dictate their analytics/strategies too as a manager that won't really question their decision making.  Like this dude is real happy to land a high profile job like this and won't make waves so to speak.

 

Hope I'm wrong  

 

 

I don’t think you are wrong. Beltran, Rojas, now this guy?  
 

Cohen is the common denominator, here. 
 

No bueno. 

[SinceThe70s]

6 minutes ago, Gugny said:

I don’t think you are wrong. Beltran, Rojas, now this guy?  
 

Cohen is the common denominator, here. 
 

No bueno. 

 

Actually, Cohen inherited Rojas - but this does feel like the same type of hire.

 

My son asked a friend who is a Yankee fan what he thought of Mendoza and his answer was "who?" Didn't even know it was the Yankees bench coach.