Deranged Rhino Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, TH3 said: I did not vote for BO.....but he took over one of the most difficult economic and international circumstances in my lifetime... Not starting a war i think of as a layup....sorry And yet -- we've had 4 straight terms of presidents who failed in that "layup". You fail to understand what is driving much of the hysteria we've seen the past three years. It's not Trump. It's the establishment who make their money from these sorts of wars who saw (rightfully so) Trump's policies and agenda as a threat. That's a fact. And you have taken the side of the war profiteers and war mongers because you are suffering from acute TDS. So spare me your opinion on what should be a layup, you're very under-informed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Just now, SoCal Deek said: Gladly....the issues you cited where nothing has happened are in general regarding domestic program spending bills that you’d like to see move forward (infrastructure and health care for example). The President doesn’t write bills. The Congress does...but they’re too busy with impeachment. If Trump had vetoed those bills you’d have more of an argument but... And yes one of the major indicators of how an economy is doing is to look to see who’s willing to take a risk at building future projects. Cranes are an excellent indicator. You probably can’t see any from your mothers basement. He had 2 years of GOP control of the house and senate....just hitting on his promises HE ALONE - remember? and if he wasn't such an idiot he would not be under investigation.... He reminds me of Antonio Brown....all he had to do was shut up and he would have $30,000,000 in his pocket All DT had to do was not strong arm a foreign governments to do dirty work on his political opponents and he would shuffle off to term 2.... AFA our country.....I don't see how he has laid much ground work to make our country better suited for the future....our growth is nominal and is largely built on leverage....the internal backbones of our country....health care system, infrastructure, education....are not any better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TH3 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: And yet -- we've had 4 straight terms of presidents who failed in that "layup". You fail to understand what is driving much of the hysteria we've seen the past three years. It's not Trump. It's the establishment who make their money from these sorts of wars who saw (rightfully so) Trump's policies and agenda as a threat. That's a fact. And you have taken the side of the war profiteers and war mongers because you are suffering from acute TDS. So spare me your opinion on what should be a layup, you're very under-informed. Your affiliation with "facts" is laughable....again stop with the TDS....it diminishes any point you are trying to make Edited October 30, 2019 by TH3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Just now, TH3 said: He had 2 years of GOP control of the house and senate....just hitting on his promises HE ALONE - remember? and if he wasn't such an idiot he would not be under investigation.... Proving to all you don't understand the reality of the past three years. At all. Enjoy your self imposed ignorance. Just now, TH3 said: Your affiliation with "facts" is laughable It's not a fact that under two successive presidents the US's war footprint expanded tremendously? Yeah. You're wrong. But keep thinking "not going to war is a layup". The only one you're impressing with that kind of ignorance (or is it dishonesty) is Tibs. And when Tibs is on your side, you should really rethink your position. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: Proving to all you don't understand the reality of the past three years. At all. Enjoy your self imposed ignorance. ahhhhh....the reality of PPP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: Proving to all you don't understand the reality of the past three years. At all. Enjoy your self imposed ignorance. Deranged...it’s become clear that we have two sides of the country that are simply talking past each other. I try sometimes but I just get frustrated. How anyone can argue these ridiculous left wing talking points is beyond me! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Deranged...it’s become clear that we have two sides of the country that are simply talking past each other. I try sometimes but I just get frustrated. How anyone can argue these ridiculous left wing talking points is beyond me! Health Care - Zip Infrastructure - Zero Wall - Invisible FoxConn Plant in WI - Conned all right Coal plants - Bankrupt Bring back manufacturing - Nada Deficit - doubled China - Nothing accomplished Allies - Betrayed across the board North Korea - Nothing changed Iran - Bagged agreement - yet to replace it with anything better Nafta - Not ratified 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albwan Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) Did I miss something during Barrack's time in office...the only 3 things that pop out to me are obama phones, obamacare and the media constantly suckling on his ^%$#. oh, yea and this... Edited October 30, 2019 by Albwan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 46 minutes ago, TH3 said: Health Care - Zip Fortunately, that's all health care needed, since the ACA fixed everything. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 42 minutes ago, Albwan said: Did I miss something during Barrack's time in office...the only 3 things that pop out to me are obama phones, obamacare and the media constantly suckling on his ^%$#. oh, yea and this... Why would whites leave a neighborhood that blacks were flooding into? That's a question I think I'll ponder while debating with myself the pros and cons of moving to West Chicago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 43 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Fortunately, that's all health care needed, since the ACA fixed everything. DC: You took the words right out of my mouth. The Democrats controlled by sides of Congress and the Presidency with a filibuster proof majority and yet we're right back to talking about fixing health care as their #1 issue? Why exactly? I guess even Nancy failed to read it before they passed it. It is absolutely SHAMEFUL and EMBARRASSING that they've framed this as their #1 issue. Bring on the debates! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 hour ago, TH3 said: Health Care - Zip They gutted the ACA -- so not zip. That's an important step. Health Care was always going to be a second tier objective for the administration behind deregulation and tax cuts. They got those secured first, then the House switched. Second term will be health care push. 1 hour ago, TH3 said: Infrastructure - Zero This is bi-partisan failure -- through multiple administrations. 1 hour ago, TH3 said: Wall - Invisible Partisan nonsense and provably false. I've been to the wall in several different locations where new wall is going up. The wall was meant as a way to combat trafficking, that's been the number one foreign agenda for this administration, and they've tackled it from day one with tangible results. But you don't care, or even know about this, "because CHILDREN IN CAGES!" 1 hour ago, TH3 said: FoxConn Plant in WI - Conned all right Coal plants - Bankrupt Bring back manufacturing - Nada Nonsense -- meaningless nonsense to boot. 1 hour ago, TH3 said: China - Nothing accomplished False. Fighting back against China is accomplishing more than the past several administrations combined whose policies were to strengthen China at our expense. All you're proving now is that you're a good lemming. 1 hour ago, TH3 said: Allies - Betrayed across the board False -- And are we talking about the same allies who conspired with our own IC to overthrow a legally elected POTUS? Those allies, like Britain, France, Canada, New Zealand, Italy and others? You're out of your depth on foreign policy matters. 1 hour ago, TH3 said: North Korea - Nothing changed False -- Try telling that to Japan or South Korea. They'd laugh in your face. *Remains coming home, *Hostilities have declined *No nuclear tests in going on two years 2 hours ago, TH3 said: Iran - Bagged agreement - yet to replace it with anything better You know nothing about what's happening in Iran. They've been in open rebellion against the Mullahs, with our support, for approaching two years. We've beaten Hezbollah and Hamas on multiple fronts, gutted their ability to finance terror and pushed back Iranian influence in the region ten fold. Again, you're proving you know nothing about the realities on the ground. Yet you're REAL good at parroting nonsense coming from the very same people who lied us into 18 years of endless war. Feels good, doesn't it? To suck the D of the same people who think you're too stupid to know any better? 2 hours ago, TH3 said: Nafta - Not ratified Only because the House won't put it forward. But details... So in your list -- you've got ONE real fact (the deficit doubling) and a bunch of nonsense. Because you are detached from reality. Enjoy 2020. It's going to be hard on your psyche. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Deranged...it’s become clear that we have two sides of the country that are simply talking past each other. I try sometimes but I just get frustrated. How anyone can argue these ridiculous left wing talking points is beyond me! talk is okay if they again start bombing Universities and research facilities and banks every day, then its a problem at lunch the other day a Patty Hearst anniversary arose, for which us old farts got to tell the young-uns all about it, the funny thing is it didn't remotely seem weird at the time, not any of it, just another day of horrible news from that era Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Deranged Rhino Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Why are people still taking the establishment media outlets seriously? They are fundamentally broken institutions, who have clearly lost the ability to even feign objectivity or honesty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SoCal Deek Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Does everyone remember when Obama let slip the name of the Special Ops group that got Ben Laden...only to then later have them targeted by terrorists? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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