SectionC3 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Just now, Reality Check said: The Mueller report will ultimately prove to be an indictment on the Mueller team itself. Be patient grasshopper. Maybe, maybe not. But the question is whether the Mueller report exonerates Trump with respect to obstruction of justice. It does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Just now, Tiberius said: Bull sh it! You're wrong. Again. Trump Tower wasn't collusion per Mueller's own report. (let alone the facts) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Just now, SectionC3 said: Or they perform a truth-seeking function more critical now than ever. Either or. Mr. Penis Envy thinks a truth-seeking function would be to ignore the egregious and scandalous actions of the Obama administration and his cohorts in the deep state. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Just now, SectionC3 said: Maybe, maybe not. But the question is whether the Mueller report exonerates Trump with respect to obstruction of justice. It does not. Still running away. Continually proving you're a dishonest coward is no way to go through life, 3rdChair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 minute ago, SectionC3 said: Or they perform a truth-seeking function more critical now than ever. Either or. Lawyers have many rolls in life, seeking the truth is seldom one of them, especially when they become politicians. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 I have to go do something productive. It's been fun arguing on the Internet today. Before I leave I'll recap what I learned: 3rdnlng has a suspected case of penis envy. Deranged Rhino has not read the Mueller report and still hasn't discovered that Trump may have obstructed justice. Foxx is into name calling today. Cheers! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 minute ago, SectionC3 said: He's of the "if I repeated it enough it might come true" school of politics. Yup. He relies on the fact most people have not read the report to just make up whatever he wants FYI, Mueller stated clearly collusion is not a crime and that he wasn't looking at that. Mueller said he could not PROVE a full conspiracy and then went after the cover up which Congress decided to ignore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Just now, Reality Check said: Lawyers have many rolls in life, seeking the truth is seldom one of them, especially when they become politicians. Hoax. I gave up bread a long time ago. 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: Still running away. Continually proving you're a dishonest coward is no way to go through life, 3rdChair. Hoax. And now I'm done. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: Still running away. Continually proving you're a dishonest coward is no way to go through life, 3rdChair. Just now, SectionC3 said: I have to go do something productive. It's been fun arguing on the Internet today. Before I leave I'll recap what I learned: 3rdnlng has a suspected case of penis envy. Deranged Rhino has not read the Mueller report and still hasn't discovered that Trump may have obstructed justice. Foxx is into name calling today. Cheers! Comments he made when I posted the words of the report themselves, and the DOJ already ruled on obstruction -- yet he claims that he knows more about this case than anyone else? Dishonesty on display, coupled with cowardice. It's a good show, completely on brand for 3rdChair -- and why he should be on everyone's ignore list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: You're wrong. Again. Trump Tower wasn't collusion per Mueller's own report. (let alone the facts) Yes, could not prove CONSPIRACY, but they did collude with Russia. Trump Tower proves that. And if there had not been an open cover up, they would have proved more. That's why Stone went to jail. Manafort, too. They kept quiet Words matter DR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Maybe, maybe not. But the question is whether the Mueller report exonerates Trump with respect to obstruction of justice. It does not. In the mind of the hard line leftist, the fact that Trump defended himself is evidence of obstruction. Again, your grasp of reality and current trends is abysmal. Curious how you come to argue everyday as if that day is the day everything works out the way you want it too. You really do fail to see how the left on a global level are collapsing, and they won't be coming back. 4 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: I have to go do something productive. It's been fun arguing on the Internet today. Before I leave I'll recap what I learned: 3rdnlng has a suspected case of penis envy. Deranged Rhino has not read the Mueller report and still hasn't discovered that Trump may have obstructed justice. Foxx is into name calling today. Cheers! I hope you don't chip a tooth on that ambulance bumper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Hoax. I gave up bread a long time ago. What with the way his conversations go RC, that's probably a segue into letting you know that he'd prefer your meat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 The funny thing about "Russian collusion" is, as an example, was it collusion when we used their rocket engines to launch our satellites for roughly twenty years? Was it collusion when Kennedy or Reagan negotiated with the Russians when it came to nukes? Is it collusion when both of our respective militaries communicate on a daily basis when it comes to the age old practice of "deconfliction" in various theaters around the world? What a joke these people are, and even worse, the people that bought into this BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Will provide the link when it's done uploading -- but this is going to be a good listen for those who are interested: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 I see leftist shills in here are still grasping at straws. Hey Trump haters, try this little game................. Trump and his transition team were guilty before proven innocent in the whole Russian collusion delusion elusion bullshyt, now the players in #Obamagate are guilty as charged. Prove your innocence???????? See how fun this game is???????? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 33 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Maybe, maybe not. But the question is whether the Mueller report exonerates Trump with respect to obstruction of justice. It does not. exoneration is not a legal standard. a level of presumed guilt is however and because there was not an acceptable level proven, it is determined that he is therefore innocent. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 42 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: What with the way his conversations go RC, that's probably a segue into letting you know that he'd prefer your meat. I'm a vegetarian. Out of the two of us, you're the only one who likes meat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 12 minutes ago, Foxx said: exoneration is not a legal standard. a level of presumed guilt is however and because there was not an acceptable level proven, it is determined that he is therefore innocent. Be careful or he might start tapping the floor in the stall next to you. Once he starts it's like Biden on hair sniffing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 14 minutes ago, Foxx said: exoneration is not a legal standard. a level of presumed guilt is however and because there was not an acceptable level proven, it is determined that he is therefore innocent. It might take an hour to explain how clueless your statement is. The bottom line, though, is that Mueller concluded that there was legally insufficient evidence of a crime with respect to the collusion question. He could have reached the same conclusion with respect to obstruction, but he didn't. And since he couldn't present the case to a grand jury per DOJ policy, the question whether Trump committed obstruction of justice will await the end of Trump's presidency. He absolutely, unequivocally, did not conclude that "there was not an acceptable level proven." From Bob Mueller's typewriter to your deluded eyes: Because we determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment, we did not draw ultimate conclusions about the President’s conduct. The evidence we obtained about the President’s actions and intent presents difficult issues that would need to be resolved if we were making a traditional prosecutorial judgment. At the same time, if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment. Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him. 3 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Be careful or he might start tapping the floor in the stall next to you. Once he starts it's like Biden on hair sniffing. In addition to being homophobic you're not very funny. You really should try the whole "honey" approach to get some more friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: It might take an hour to explain how clueless your statement is. The bottom line, though, is that Mueller concluded that there was legally insufficient evidence of a crime with respect to the collusion question. He could have reached the same conclusion with respect to obstruction, but he didn't. And since he couldn't present the case to a grand jury per DOJ policy, the question whether Trump committed obstruction of justice will await the end of Trump's presidency. He absolutely, unequivocally, did not conclude that "there was not an acceptable level proven." From Bob Mueller's typewriter to your deluded eyes: Because we determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment, we did not draw ultimate conclusions about the President’s conduct. The evidence we obtained about the President’s actions and intent presents difficult issues that would need to be resolved if we were making a traditional prosecutorial judgment. At the same time, if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment. Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him. In addition to being homophobic you're not very funny. You really should try the whole "honey" approach to get some more friends. If I'm homophobic that must mean you are the h o m o. Go to your death knowing that you will never get my "honey". Edited May 15, 2020 by 3rdnlng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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