MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Think most people would trade our offense for the Cowboys offense in a heartbeat. Fact is we are seventh in scoring and they are sixth. We are exactly .2 points per game behind them. Our problem isnt offense its defense. It took Jim Kelly 4 years to reach his peak. Tyrods been in this offense for two. I have no issue with the Bills taking a qb in thr fourth or fifth round. But our first three selections should be defense. Is tyrod perfect. Not even close. But he is the qb of the seventh best offense in the league. Thats a fact. And TT has had 6. So he is what he is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 And TT has had 6. So he is what he is Lol right...I guess if we are playing that game, then Kelly's time starting in the USFL playing 18 game seasons doesn't count either... Tyrod had been sitting watching for 4 years...a little different...just a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TANK2 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 And TT has had 6. So he is what he is Not in this offense with these players he hasnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Lol right...I guess if we are playing that game, then Kelly's time starting in the USFL playing 18 game seasons doesn't count either... Tyrod had been sitting watching for 4 years...a little different...just a little. Quick question. How many NFL teams let a legit QB walk that doesnt have Injury issues? So if TT flashed ever instead of staying just like the college QB would not one of the better FO in football get value for him. Not in this offense with these players he hasnt. Your right had 2 years and regressed from year 1 to year 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jms62 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Looks like I have tagged out. Merry Christmas all and wishing the best for you too Bobby. Thank you for your service Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) Quick question. How many NFL teams let a legit QB walk that doesnt have Injury issues? So if TT flashed ever instead of staying just like the college QB would not one of the better FO in football get value for him. Your right had 2 years and regressed from year 1 to year 2 They didn't exactly let him walk...they offered him more money than the Bills to stay as their BACKUP....and he chose to leave anyway... You act like they just said "Cool, we aren't resigning you, good luck"...not what happeend....they wanted him back and offered him more than what he initially got here and he chose not to take it. Edited December 25, 2016 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 They didn't exactly let him walk...they offered him more money than the Bills to stay as their BACKUP....and he chose to leave anyway... Where is that report? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Where is that report? Been widely circulated, maybe you should go check your facts before assuming things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) Been widely circulated, maybe you should go check your facts before assuming thingsPost the report Cause ONLY thing i have seen is they tried to trade him. But couldnt because its hard (yet QBs that flash are traded all the time) Edited December 25, 2016 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TANK2 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Quick question. How many NFL teams let a legit QB walk that doesnt have Injury issues? So if TT flashed ever instead of staying just like the college QB would not one of the better FO in football get value for him. Your right had 2 years and regressed from year 1 to year 2 Yea. He really looked regressed yesterday with all his weapons available for once. 600 yards of total offense. Just awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) Quick question. How many NFL teams let a legit QB walk that doesnt have Injury issues? So if TT flashed ever instead of staying just like the college QB would not one of the better FO in football get value for him. Your right had 2 years and regressed from year 1 to year 2 Hey Bobby there's someone in another thread who hasn't heard your opinion of Tyrod. You should get on that. Edited December 25, 2016 by Coach Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) Post the report http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2016/9/9/12856392/baltimore-ravens-tried-to-trade-tyrod-taylor http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/buffalo-bills-denver-broncos-tyrod-taylor-contract-111615 Gary Kubiak wanted him badly, former Ravens OC when Tyrod was there before he left for Denver...offered him more money to come to Denver...former QB in the NFL...let's see whose opinion should we believe...some random poster on a message board or actual NFL QB's, coaches and players? Baltimore knew he wasn't going to stay there as a backup...they were hoping to trade him so they could get something for him...they knew he could play, just go read about how he used to tear them up with the scout team in practice He would talk with defenders such as Terrell Suggs, Elvis Dumervil and Ed Reed about when it would no longer be practice, when he would be facing them while wearing a different uniform. He just didn't know whose uniform it would be. Last offseason, Taylor left Baltimore for a chance to become a starter in Buffalo. He won the job, played well, went to the Pro Bowl and got a lucrative contract extension. Now he’s coming back this Sunday at M&T Bank Stadium. The long-anticipated day has arrived. “We always used to talk about the day that I would get a chance to play against them, and it’s here,” Taylor said Wednesday. “The reality was that I was going to leave Baltimore at some point or another. To come back as a starter was something that I hoped for and I got the opportunity to do so now. … For it to be live action, I’m happy for that and excited for it.” Edited December 25, 2016 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Yea. He really looked regressed yesterday with all his weapons available for once. 600 yards of total offense. Just awful. Back ti one game makes a season Yes i have already said TT needs elite talent to elevate his game. Whos game has he ever elevated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatszel Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Back to one game i see to justify two years of crap. Again how many wins has he led this team too when down 4 at any point in a game? Ooo why cant TT lead to a TD on first OT drive why leave it to Carp? Because offensive coordinator calls a reverse using an old running back with less speed than at least 5 of our players are faster than. Also making the field goal a lot longer when you had a go forward back that was making 11 yards a clip on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2016/9/9/12856392/baltimore-ravens-tried-to-trade-tyrod-taylor http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/buffalo-bills-denver-broncos-tyrod-taylor-contract-111615 Gary Kubiak wanted him badly, former Ravens OC when Tyrod was there before he left for Denver...offered him more money to come to Denver...former QB in the NFL...let's see whose opinion should we believe...some random poster on a message board or actual NFL QB's, coaches and players? Baltimore knew he wasn't going to stay there as a backup...they were hoping to trade him so they could get something for him...they knew he could play, just go read about how he used to tear them up with the scout team in practice So they DIDNT try and offer him more money as a BU like you said ok Because offensive coordinator calls a reverse using an old running back with less speed than at least 5 of our players are faster than. Also making the field goal a lot longer when you had a go forward back that was making 11 yards a clip on the bench. Why is there a trend of said OC that people want as a HC taking the ball out of TT hands when game on line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jms62 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) Because offensive coordinator calls a reverse using an old running back with less speed than at least 5 of our players are faster than. Also making the field goal a lot longer when you had a go forward back that was making 11 yards a clip on the bench. Wow when you. Put itthat way it makes it even sound worse than it was Edited December 25, 2016 by jms62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 So they DIDNT try and offer him more money as a BU like you said ok Why is there a trend of said OC that people want as a HC taking the ball out of TT hands when game on line? He wasn't going back to Baltimore for any price, he wanted to be a starter, read the comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Almost 600 yards of offence and the bills still lost.. I for one have had disagreements with a few posters here about what's more of a problem, the offence or defence. This game should clearly show that the defence/coaching are the main problems on this team. I am not saying that Tyrod is the franchise guy that is going to lead the bills to the promise land. But he is easily good enough to get into the playoffs if you have the support around him. Alex smith gets 10-11 wins every year, and I am not sold at all that he is better than Tyrod. He has better coaching and a 10 times better defence. A lot of people want Tyrod gone next year and think we will be better without him. I could not disagree more with that, as this defence and coaching staff is an absolute joke. Like I said, he is no means a great QB and I do think we should draft a QB next year, but he is not the reason why the bills are 7 and 8 as there are much bigger problems on this team. Pick up his option next year, fire that clown as a head coach, fix the defence and you probably have a playoff team. In saying this, Merry chirstmas everyone and hope everybody enjoys the holidays HE was not the # 1 problem, ....................... for 1 game!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Exactly, This is all I am trying to say "Good enough" the WNY battle cry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) He wasn't going back to Baltimore for any price, he wanted to be a starter, read the commentsYou said it not me. Not anywhere it says Baltimore offered him more money to be a BU. So again what NFL team lets good QBs walk that dont have inj questions? Edited December 25, 2016 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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