Keukasmallies Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Experts indicate that the cyberwar may be pointed at disrupting the elections here in the USA. http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-37117414 I thought Hill'ry did that months ago. Sail On, Oh Ship of State. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 There are also now suspicions that the Clinton Foundation, a charitable body, mayhave been targeted. That actually worries me more than the State Department being hacked would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 That actually worries me more than the State Department being hacked would. do tell. i'm salivating at the thought of those records being put into the public eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 do tell. i'm salivating at the thought of those records being put into the public eye. There's probably more - and more sensitive - information on our foreign policy in the Clinton Foundation's servers than there is in State's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 (edited) Experts indicate that the cyberwar may be pointed at disrupting the elections here in the USA. http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-37117414 I thought Hill'ry did that months ago. Sail On, Oh Ship of State. It's amazing how much red-baiting the left is doing just to deflect from their own shenanigans. There's no evidence that connects Russia to these hacks -- and if there was proof it'd be front page news -- but if you make people scared of the bear enough, maybe they'll ignore the actual content of the leaked information. That's not to say it's not possible Russia is behind it, but the media and left are treating it like a certainty. People should be asking themselves why this narrative is being pushed so hard... Edited August 18, 2016 by Deranged Rhino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 There's probably more - and more sensitive - information on our foreign policy in the Clinton Foundation's servers than there is in State's. Good, the world needs to know how inept and crooked Hillary Rodham Clinton is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 It's amazing how much red-baiting the left is doing just to deflect from their own shenanigans. There's no evidence that connects Russia to these hacks -- and if there was proof it'd be front page news -- but if you make people scared of the bear enough, maybe they'll ignore the actual content of the leaked information. That's not to say it's not possible Russia is behind it, but the media and left are treating it like a certainty. People should be asking themselves why this narrative is being pushed so hard... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Good, the world needs to know how inept and crooked Hillary Rodham Clinton is. The world knows how inept and crooked she is but apparently more people think she'd be a better President than Trump. Hopefully in the future both parties will find better candidates than these to run for the most powerful position on the planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 The world knows how inept and crooked she is but apparently more people think she'd be a better President than Trump. Hopefully in the future both parties will find better candidates than these to run for the most powerful position on the planet. The issue with the CF is not that it'll show how crooked HRC is, it's that it might show how crooked the entire system is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 People should be asking themselves why this narrative is being pushed so hard... Could it be because Putin and Trump have recently expressed a mutual admiration for each others' leadership skills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 The issue with the CF is not that it'll show how crooked HRC is, it's that it might show how crooked the entire system is. I think that's a bit of a broad statement. But certainly, there's never been such a blatant pay for play setup like the Clinton Foundation, as far as I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 My question: What did the Clintons do to the Russians? Either he or she did something terrible to that country or those in charge of that country. IMO, the Russian hacking and saber rattling comes across as a patient, well timed, well planned, mission against her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Could it be because Putin and Trump have recently expressed a mutual admiration for each others' leadership skills? Absolutely part of it, but it's not the main reason. The red-baiting has been building for more than just this election cycle, it began in earnest 24 months ago long before Trump was the nominee. It's just gone full tilt now. I think that's a bit of a broad statement. But certainly, there's never been such a blatant pay for play setup like the Clinton Foundation, as far as I know. It's certainly a broad statement. No denying that. My question: What did the Clintons do to the Russians? Either he or she did something terrible to that country or those in charge of that country. IMO, the Russian hacking and saber rattling comes across as a patient, well timed, well planned, mission against her. You're assuming the Russians are actually the ones behind the hack -- this isn't a fact, it's speculation. There are plenty of other state and private actors that have the motive, means and ability to have done these hacks, including our own intelligence apparatus. You shouldn't be asking what the Clintons did to the Russians (though both have done plenty on a geopolitical scale to bother the Kremlin), you should be asking what the Clintons and those who are funding her campaign are hoping to gain from slinging these kinds of inflammatory accusations without a lick of hard evidence. Is it because: 1) it's an easy distraction from the actual content of the leaks? 2) a further escalation of the new Cold War being pushed hard by the west in the past 24+ months? 3) all of the above? Then take a look at what's happening with Russia in Turkey, Syria, Iran, Ukraine and the South China Sea and ask the same questions all over again. The majority of Americans are in the dark about what's really happening on the global stage and how much of it is the result of 44's incoherent foreign policy in the wake of 43's own disastrous tenure: We're in a proxy war in Syria against the Russians, a proxy war against Iran (maybe) in Yemen (where we're funding and arming the Saudis as they continue to bomb civilians in an attempt to reinstall a friendly Saudi government), we were/are in a proxy war against Russia in eastern Ukraine -- all the while we're fighting ISIS (with Russian support in some spots) while simultaneously supporting and arming other ISIS and Al Qaeda fighters in Syria to fight Assad who's backed by Putin. All of this is happening while 44 has been arming the world -- $190 billion in US arms sales during Obama's term, that's the largest number since WW2. Beginning in 2013, the US rolled back restrictions on the type of arms sales that can happen, freeing them up to arm literally anyone with minimal oversight -- all the while the same administration has been trying to raise restrictions on its own citizens' abilities to buy and keep firearms. The irony is lost on the left. So, in short, the current US policy has been to strip back oversight and restriction on international arm sales which boosts the bottom line of a $70b arms industry while waging proxy wars in multiple areas of the world (fueling the arms industry even more), destabilizing places like Libya, South America and the Ukraine -- then sitting back and asking why other global powers are getting so bent out of shape. It's a clusterfck... and adding red-baiting onto the already raging dumpster fire that is our foreign policy will only exacerbate the issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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....lybob Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 U.S. foreign policy and failed states Is it a bug or a feature ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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