Gugny Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Eh, there are plenty of examples of the opposite of this. Judging a large group of people because of the actions of a giant idiot is wrong on many levels. It's like saying middle class and upper class kids will eventually shoot up a building. I'm not saying it's the norm. But I also can't recall one season going by without at least one NFL player engaging in this type of behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 I'm not saying it's the norm. But I also can't recall one season going by without at least one NFL player engaging in this type of behavior. This happens all across society. Look at Manziel and that scumbag Affluenza kid. Talib is a special kind of idiot. But there are plenty more guys like Anquan Boldin, who was the Walter Payton man of the year. Here's a little background on his hometown: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pahokee,_Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 This happens all across society. Look at Manziel and that scumbag Affluenza kid. Talib is a special kind of idiot. But there are plenty more guys like Anquan Boldin, who was the Walter Payton man of the year. Here's a little background on his hometown: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pahokee,_Florida Manziel and the Affluenza kid were/are rich little brats who party irresponsibly. I'm talking about guys who grew up in the ghettos and continue to engage in ghetto-ish activity (guns, selling drugs). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 (edited) I'm not saying it's the norm. But I also can't recall one season going by without at least one NFL player engaging in this type of behavior. pick a random sample of like 2500-3000 non-nfl guys and there will be all kinds in it Edited June 7, 2016 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 pick a random sample of like 2500-3000 non-nfl guys and there will be all kinds in it I realize this. My point was to specifically point out the trend within the NFL, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Manziel and the Affluenza kid were/are rich little brats who party irresponsibly. I'm talking about guys who grew up in the ghettos and continue to engage in ghetto-ish activity (guns, selling drugs). That Affluenza kid killed a bunch of people. I don't recall Talib killing anyone. Manziel has been arrested several times for violence. And what about the Columbine, Sandy Hook, or other privilege kids who shoot up schools? There are football players who do dumb things. But there are plenty of other people, across socio economic levels, who do worse things than almost every football player minus Aaron Hernandez and OJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 That Affluenza kid killed a bunch of people. I don't recall Talib killing anyone. Manziel has been arrested several times for violence. And what about the Columbine, Sandy Hook, or other privilege kids who shoot up schools? There are football players who do dumb things. But there are plenty of other people, across socio economic levels, who do worse things than almost every football player minus Aaron Hernandez and OJ. I know that you understand the point I'm trying to make, but for some reason, you're (I have to think) pretending not to get it. How many NFL players who grew up in areas that are not inner city ghettos find themselves.getting into gun or drug-related legal trouble? Not how many people across the world ... only NFL players .... because this is about an NFL player who has found himself in gun-related legal trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 That Affluenza kid killed a bunch of people. I don't recall Talib killing anyone. Manziel has been arrested several times for violence. And what about the Columbine, Sandy Hook, or other privilege kids who shoot up schools? There are football players who do dumb things. But there are plenty of other people, across socio economic levels, who do worse things than almost every football player minus Aaron Hernandez and OJ. School shootings were done by adult NFL players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 (edited) FF to 8 min mark. Talibs grandmother shoots people. Big mama doesn't sound like a good neighbor to have. Edited June 7, 2016 by Ryan L Billz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 I know that you understand the point I'm trying to make, but for some reason, you're (I have to think) pretending not to get it. How many NFL players who grew up in areas that are not inner city ghettos find themselves.getting into gun or drug-related legal trouble? Not how many people across the world ... only NFL players .... because this is about an NFL player who has found himself in gun-related legal trouble. It's cool to disagree. This guy is a major idiot. There are plenty of other NFL players who grew up in the same or worse areas that don't do stuff like this. I hate lumping people together. Enjoy your day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 (edited) Was it the champagne ? In fact it was - The Champagne...OF BEERS! O_O Edited June 7, 2016 by Heitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 It's cool to disagree. This guy is a major idiot. There are plenty of other NFL players who grew up in the same or worse areas that don't do stuff like this. I hate lumping people together. Enjoy your day. For the love of Christ, I'm not lumping anyone into anything - nor did I ever say "the majority" of NFL players who grew up in the ghetto continue that lifestyle. This is a classic case of you interpreting something (frankly, that was written with absolutely no room for misinterpretation) in a way that shows how "some group" of people has been disrespected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 For the love of Christ, I'm not lumping anyone into anything - nor did I ever say "the majority" of NFL players who grew up in the ghetto continue that lifestyle. This is a classic case of you interpreting something (frankly, that was written with absolutely no room for misinterpretation) in a way that shows how "some group" of people has been disrespected. Direct quote: "How true. Often times, a person who is brought up living the inner city lifestyle will continue that lifestyle even if that person gains monetary success." Whatever. I'm done with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 In fact it was - The Champagne...OF BEERS! O_O America beer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Direct quote: "How true. Often times, a person who is brought up living the inner city lifestyle will continue that lifestyle even if that person gains monetary success." Whatever. I'm done with this. And you translated that statement into me saying, "most NFL players who grew up in the ghetto still get into trouble for ghetto activity." That, sir, is you interpreting in a way to make an argument that didn't exist before your misinterpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 It's cool to disagree. This guy is a major idiot. There are plenty of other NFL players who grew up in the same or worse areas that don't do stuff like this. I hate lumping people together. Enjoy your day. Unless they're white or old or old and white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Unless they're white or old or old and white. And fat. Don't forget fat. But if they played JUCO football, they're experts. At everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Unless they're white or old or old and white. Come off it dude. Those "people" don't count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp2Warlick Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 HEY!!!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Now there's some reports suggesting that Talib may have shot himself AND two other people. If that's the case, suspension coming along with potential jail time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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