4merper4mer Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 30 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Bill Murray’s son Caleb arrested during Black Lives Matter protest </snip> Bill Murray’s son Caleb was arrested and charged on Monday with arson, disorderly conduct and assault and battery on a police officer. According to a report obtained by Page Six from the Edgartown District Court, the 27-year-old was participating in a Black Lives Matter march on Martha’s Vineyard and allegedly got into an altercation with police officers who were responding to an incident taking place at the protest. The incident unfolded during a confrontation between protesters and resident Eric Woods, who allegedly used the N-word before punching a teenager in the crowd </snip> While being transported to the Dukes County Jail after his arrest, Caleb was allegedly uncooperative. Things reportedly got worse once he was placed in a cell. “After being put into a cell,” the report alleges, “he then used a piece of the cell to not only cut himself but cut the deputies.” Another officer claims to have heard Caleb say, “that once he got out of jail he was going to burn down all the f–king buildings.” </snip> Martha's Vineyard lol. 1
LB3 Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) Rioting is certainly more justified in one case. If protesting were the only issue there would be no issue. What freedoms are being taken away from United States citizens? Beijing cares nothing for the rights of it's citizens. Edit: @Jauronimo. Forgot to quote you. Edited June 5, 2020 by LB3
4merper4mer Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, B-Man said: institutionalized racism has been the mantra of the left, this article tries to show how (maybe) that came to be. I did read it and found it crappy as I suspected I would. An individual killed another individual. It can't yet be shown that race was a reason behind it at all. If it was, THEN it should be examined if it was institutional. If THAT is shown, it should be examined if it is the fault of Democrats, Republicans, neither or both. Edited June 5, 2020 by 4merper4mer 1 1
Big Blitz Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) I missed the part here where MLK says "yea we haven't gotten what we want let's break everything." He'd be embarrassed by all this especially considering the immense progress that has been and then subsequently rekkkked by the Obama administration MLK on riots Edited June 5, 2020 by Big Blitz 1 1
4merper4mer Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: I missed the part here where MLK says "yea we haven't gotten what we want let's break everything." He'd be embarrassed by all this especially considering the immense progress that has been and then subsequently rekkkked by the Obama administration MLK on riots We are a nation of individuals and how we treat each other matters. True progress in race relations can't be made or broken by government or at least it shouldn't be. It is in how we treat each other.
B-Man Posted June 5, 2020 Author Posted June 5, 2020 DAVID BERNSTEIN: There are plenty of police reforms that could be enacted from a libertarian perspective that would improve matters. Qualified immunity reform is libertarian. Holding police accountable for misbehavior is libertarian. Reducing the power of police unions is libertarian. Getting rid of overtime and pension abuse is libertarian. Banning no-knock raids is libertarian. Reducing bloated police department bureaucracies is libertarian. Broader reforms that would reduce the need for police and reduce police/civilian encounters are also libertarian. Getting rid of victimless crimes, especially the drug war, and certain categories of criminal business regulation that should be handled civilly is libertarian. Getting rid of taxes that lead to black markets that in turn lead to police/civilian encounters is libertarian. Abolishing laws that allow local governments to put people in jail for failure to pay civil fines is libertarian. Separating forensic science services from prosecutors’ offices is libertarian. Holding prosecutors accountable for misconduct is libertarian. Finding alternatives to prison for certain categories of offenders is libertarian. By contrast, “defunding the police,” if that just means willy-nilly cuts, is not libertarian. If you get rid of the police, they will be replaced by vigilante justice and mob “protection.” 2
Deranged Rhino Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 CCP Chris wants to doxx soldiers because he didn't get his race war. The enemies of this republic, and its people, are exposing themselves daily. Pay attention. 4 2
B-Man Posted June 5, 2020 Author Posted June 5, 2020 Like most Americans, I have gone from 1 to 10. 1 3
Jauronimo Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 10 minutes ago, LB3 said: Rioting is certainly more justified in one case. If protesting were the only issue there would be no issue. What freedoms are being taken away from United States citizens? Beijing cares nothing for the rights of it's citizens. Edit: @Jauronimo. Forgot to quote you. Changes in legislation, like amending extradition articles, justify protesting and rioting but inequality in the application of existing legislation does not qualify? The question isn't what freedoms are being taken away from Americans. The question is are the rights that Americans already have being protected and enforced equally for all Americans? And that likely explains the night and day difference in attitudes between the two threads. Much of PPP doesn't think their fellow citizens protesting perceived injustice have a legit case. Its not about the violence in the protest, or the looting, or law and order its about the validity of the underlying issue. I agree that Beijing cares nothing for the rights of their citizens. A significant portion of the American public believes their lives are less valuable in the eyes of their government.
The Poojer Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 there's a thread on the OTW page about backyard birding and i didn't want to derail that thread but did you know this week is 'Black Birders Week'? It's a real thing I guess 1 1
Deranged Rhino Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 You can't fight racism with more racism. It's just not possible to get a positive from a negative. But Marxists know this, and don't care. That's why they lie and couch their actual goals in things like "Critical Theory". 2 3 4
LB3 Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Changes in legislation, like amending extradition articles, justify protesting and rioting but inequality in the application of existing legislation does not qualify? The question isn't what freedoms are being taken away from Americans. The question is are the rights that Americans already have being protected and enforced equally for all Americans? And that likely explains the night and day difference in attitudes between the two threads. Much of PPP doesn't think their fellow citizens protesting perceived injustice have a legit case. Its not about the violence in the protest, or the looting, or law and order its about the validity of the underlying issue. I agree that Beijing cares nothing for the rights of their citizens. A significant portion of the American public believes their lives are less valuable in the eyes of their government. The bolded is fair, speaking only for myself. Though I'll quibble that it makes no sense in any situation to destroy your own neighborhood and rob your own neighbors.
The Poojer Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 This is something i really don't have a problem with at all, it's way better than ruining buildings and still makes an impact. Plus i'd be a hypocrite if i was against it as I love the shamrock painted on the road in Tipp Hill in syracuse every saint patricks day...or green lines painted along parade routes. 4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:
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