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There are other legal benefits outside taxes. Property ownership, inheritance...and one of the big motivators for gay marriage has been medical. Practices at the start of the AIDS epidemic, where long-term partners could be barred from seeing a dying partner by family who'd been estranged for 20 years, are a significant and mostly forgotten issue.

 

The seperation between church and state SHOULD put neither above the other.

 

Gay marriage just may be the donnybrook that destroys that equilibrium. Be careful what some wish for. We are the land of good intentions and unintended consequences!

 

Unfortunately, both sides do not know how to moderate. There is absolutely no compromise w/this debate. One side wants recognition and equality while the other side treats it as a sin akin to murder.

 

How the heck can this resolve itself?

If all they wanted were equal rights, than civil unions would have been enough. It's moved passed that.

 

The debate is ultimately about forcing the Church to accept the Government's decision, because it's solely about recognition at this point. They want their abnormal behavior to be treated normally; a task that will take a complete culture change over a generation (or more) of propaganda to achieve.

 

it's akin to the "Free the Nipple" campaign.

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If all they wanted were equal rights, than civil unions would have been enough. It's moved passed that.

 

The debate is ultimately about forcing the Church to accept the Government's decision, because it's solely about recognition at this point. They want their abnormal behavior to be treated normally; a task that will take a complete culture change over a generation (or more) of propaganda to achieve.

 

it's akin to the "Free the Nipple" campaign.

 

I don't even know how to respond to this... other than to shake my head and hope it's sarcasm.

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If all they wanted were equal rights, than civil unions would have been enough. It's moved passed that.

 

No, they wouldn't. That's what I thought, but John Adams pointed out that "civil unions" legally aren't marriage, hence can't provide the same rights (I'm not going in to details, look up his post.)

 

You're not entirely wrong about the propaganda aspect of it (you're wrong to call it propaganda, it's more just biased reporting. But if the coverage weren't slanted, we wouldn't know about some flunky apparatchik in East Bum!@#$ achieving minor celebrity in being jailed for contempt.) But legally...do some research on the topic.

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So = sounds like this board would approve of say - maybe this woman was Islamic instead of Christian - and should would only issue marriage licenses if they followed Sharia law....or an Islamic judge doing the same...or a Jewish judge not following sentencing guidelines but going old testament....of an Islamic policeman....or if I held public office and my "religion" said......and please spare me that BO is not following immigration laws - 2 wrongs don't make a right

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So = sounds like this board would approve of say - maybe this woman was Islamic instead of Christian - and should would only issue marriage licenses if they followed Sharia law....or an Islamic judge doing the same...or a Jewish judge not following sentencing guidelines but going old testament....of an Islamic policeman....or if I held public office and my "religion" said......and please spare me that BO is not following immigration laws - 2 wrongs don't make a right

 

How exactly are you drawing this conclusion about "this board"? How are you defining "this board"?

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So = sounds like this board would approve of say - maybe this woman was Islamic instead of Christian - and should would only issue marriage licenses if they followed Sharia law....or an Islamic judge doing the same...or a Jewish judge not following sentencing guidelines but going old testament....of an Islamic policeman....or if I held public office and my "religion" said......and please spare me that BO is not following immigration laws - 2 wrongs don't make a right

Little early on a Sunday morning to be drunk off your ass, isn't it?

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More updates:

 

A Tennessee judge is refusing to grant a divorce between a man a woman.

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/09/04/tenn-judge-refuses-to-grant-straight-couple-a-divorce-because-of-gay-marriage/

 

The judge's legal opinion is basically this:

  • Tennessee previously had laws regarding marriage (between one man and one woman). These laws were rendered obsolete by the Supreme Court decision.
  • With the Supreme Court decision, the Federal Government has now "set the law" regarding marriage and states can't have their own marriage laws.
  • Tennessee currently has laws regarding divorce, but divorce laws vary from state to state. For example, in South Dakota, a marriage partner cannot be forced to grant a divorce from their other partner, even if the other partner has no interest in getting back together; while in California, a person can get a divorce in this matter.
  • Since the Supreme Court has now "set the law" regarding marriage, the Federal Government now has to "set the law" regarding "what is not a marriage".
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You know, when I first saw this thread I thought it was about you.

 

Dude... I am one of the few in gov't that actually keeps business right-side up.

 

We were built for 6 million.

In 50 years we haven't even scratched spending 60 million.

 

A 60 day closure now costs the economy, business 18 million.

 

I guess you aren't good @ math... Must be too much raw pork you've been swallowing.

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Dude... I am one of the few in gov't that actually keeps business right-side up.

 

We were built for 6 million.

In 50 years we haven't even scratched spending 60 million.

 

A 60 day closure now costs the economy, business 18 million.

 

I guess you aren't good @ math... Must be too much raw pork you've been swallowing.

What does all this have to do with you getting paid for not working?

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Is this public sector employee a member of a Union? If so, why isn't the Union out front defending their member? If the Teachers Union can get child molesters put in the "rubber room" with full pay and benefits, why can't this workers Union do something similar?

 

Elected officials aren't usually unionized (I actually know of no case in which they are.)

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What does all this have to do with you getting paid for not working?

My work is very easy to keep track of and a report of it is all open to the public under the FoIA. My work is directly tied into how much I move. Like today, I moved +100,000 dollars worth of business. I also made sure 36 million gallons of water was properly allocated. The work I do is very quantitatively expressed, it's not your typical gov't job that is qualitatively expressed or hard to measure. Various numbers and data show exactly what I do every shift.

 

Why is this not work? Because jobs like this that are inherently governmental can't be "work" in your eyes. I am sorry you don't understand the numbers behind it all and that this confuses you.

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Elected officials aren't usually unionized (I actually know of no case in which they are.)

 

Oh sorry, I didn't know she was elected. Thought it was some random county clerk

 

So I will retract my argument and present another

 

How is this any different than Virgina Attorney General Mark Herring. During his election he vowed to uphold Virginia's Marriage Amendment. Upon election he not only refused to enforce state law, he went so far as to file a brief in opposition of the law his office was bound to uphold

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