....lybob Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) No problem.........................just offer them some nuclear weapons. . lucky we're not Russia drifting into Turkey's territorial waters Edited January 12, 2016 by ....lybob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 No problem.........................just offer them some nuclear weapons. . Probably less "detained" than "rescued" according to UNCLOS. The Iranians are belligerent, but not complete !@#$s. Though they'll likely keep the boats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 (edited) Joe Scarborough @JoeNBC 1h1 hour ago Hey Iran, you have exactly 300 days left to push a US president around. Enjoy it while you can. After that, there will be hell to pay. 394 retweets 484 likes US OFFICIALS SCRAMBLE... Accused of 'Snooping'... 10 Sailors Detained, Hours Before State of the Union Speech... “Obama’s Carterization is complete” — and on the day of his final SOTU, to boot. Edited January 13, 2016 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Maybe Barry will draw a red line tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 The Administration is on it....................... #BringBackOurSailors The Iran incident contradicts Obama's "no existential threats" narrative ... hence no mention of it. Because, pretender in chief. #SOTU Andrea Mitchell @mitchellreports 2h2 hours ago State Dept. officials tell me @JohnKerry called @JZarif today to explain after U.S. sailors were detained by Iran. More on @NBCNightlyNews We called to...explain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 The Administration is on it....................... #BringBackOurSailors The Iran incident contradicts Obama's "no existential threats" narrative ... hence no mention of it. Because, pretender in chief. #SOTU We called to...explain? Called to let Iran explain. Twitter...character limit. Jesus, it's not that big a deal. Iran rescued disabled boats inside their territorial waters. That's not an act of aggression. The overreaction to this is absolutely ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Jesus, it's not that big a deal. Iran rescued disabled boats inside their territorial waters. That's not an act of aggression. The overreaction to this is absolutely ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Yeah...I'm not the one overdoing the gung-ho militarism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Thankfully, all U.S. personnel have been returned safely. This photograph — including a female sailor apparently forced to wear a headscarf – is a quintessential example of “public curiosity” and would be interpreted as insulting throughout the Muslim world. The sight of members of the American military, disarmed and under Iranian control, is of enormous propaganda value in Iran’s ongoing war against the United States. To its allies in the Middle East, the photo demonstrates Iran’s strength – how many jihadist countries have had this many American servicemembers under their power? – and it demonstrates American weakness. Then there’s this: “This time, the Americans were cooperative in proving their innocence, and they quickly accepted their faults without resistance,” the analyst, Hamidreza Taraghi, said in a phone interview. “The Marines apologized for having strayed into Iranian waters.” Never fear, John Kerry made friends with the Iranians, and that made all the difference: Also playing a role was the strong relationship that has developed between Mr. Kerry and the Iranian foreign minister, Mohammad Javad Zarif, during negotiations on the nuclear deal, Mr. Taraghi said. “John Kerry and Zarif were on the phone during the past hours, and this helped the problem to be resolved quickly due to their direct contact,” he said. Nations that take illegal propaganda photos, crow about their seizure of American boats, confiscate part of their equipment, and then point to our allegedly admitted faults aren’t “easing tensions,” they’re flexing their muscles. I’m glad our sailors and boats are back in American hands — minus, apparently, their GPS equipment — but once again Iran has thumbed its nose at the U.S., demonstrating that it does what it wants — whether it’s testing missiles, launching rockets near U.S. warships, or taking, questioning, and photographing American sailors who (allegedly) stray into Iranian waters. Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Thankfully, all U.S. personnel have been returned safely. This photograph — including a female sailor apparently forced to wear a headscarf – is a quintessential example of “public curiosity” and would be interpreted as insulting throughout the Muslim world. The sight of members of the American military, disarmed and under Iranian control, is of enormous propaganda value in Iran’s ongoing war against the United States. To its allies in the Middle East, the photo demonstrates Iran’s strength – how many jihadist countries have had this many American servicemembers under their power? – and it demonstrates American weakness. Then there’s this: Never fear, John Kerry made friends with the Iranians, and that made all the difference: Nations that take illegal propaganda photos, crow about their seizure of American boats, confiscate part of their equipment, and then point to our allegedly admitted faults aren’t “easing tensions,” they’re flexing their muscles. I’m glad our sailors and boats are back in American hands — minus, apparently, their GPS equipment — but once again Iran has thumbed its nose at the U.S., demonstrating that it does what it wants — whether it’s testing missiles, launching rockets near U.S. warships, or taking, questioning, and photographing American sailors who (allegedly) stray into Iranian waters. Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner And they were forced to remove their shoes! The horror! How much more histrionic are we going to get over this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 (edited) Thankfully, all U.S. personnel have been returned safely. This photograph — including a female sailor apparently forced to wear a headscarf – is a quintessential example of “public curiosity” and would be interpreted as insulting throughout the Muslim world. The sight of members of the American military, disarmed and under Iranian control, is of enormous propaganda value in Iran’s ongoing war against the United States. To its allies in the Middle East, the photo demonstrates Iran’s strength – how many jihadist countries have had this many American servicemembers under their power? – and it demonstrates American weakness. Then there’s this: Never fear, John Kerry made friends with the Iranians, and that made all the difference: Nations that take illegal propaganda photos, crow about their seizure of American boats, confiscate part of their equipment, and then point to our allegedly admitted faults aren’t “easing tensions,” they’re flexing their muscles. I’m glad our sailors and boats are back in American hands — minus, apparently, their GPS equipment — but once again Iran has thumbed its nose at the U.S., demonstrating that it does what it wants — whether it’s testing missiles, launching rockets near U.S. warships, or taking, questioning, and photographing American sailors who (allegedly) stray into Iranian waters. Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner Really the only issue I have with this whole thing is "forcing" the female marine to wear a headscarf. And that's a small issue. Edited January 13, 2016 by Chef Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 And they were forced to remove their shoes! The horror! How much more histrionic are we going to get over this? LOL............nothing histrionic about it sir. Just an opinion piece about how the Iranians are using this error to their advantage...........pretty straightforward stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 LOL............nothing histrionic about it sir. Just an opinion piece about how the Iranians are using this error to their advantage...........pretty straightforward stuff. Personally I don't blame them. The only thing I find interesting is that we had to of these boats have mechanical problems at the same time. Something is fishy there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 LOL............nothing histrionic about it sir. Just an opinion piece about how the Iranians are using this error to their advantage...........pretty straightforward stuff. No, that opinion piece is pretty histrionic. As are many, many others. The Iranians acted perfectly reasonably in this case, and some people are bending over backwards to do anything to cast it as a belligerent, aggressive violation of international law. It's "Republicans want to kill grandma" ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 (edited) Nice rugs. Wonder if they could take them home as a parting gift? Edited January 13, 2016 by GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Really the only issue I have with this whole thing is "forcing" the female marine to wear a headscarf. And that's a small issue. She may have opted to...or been told to by whoever was in command. It's common for our service women in Islamic countries to reasonably acquiesce to Islamic customs out of respect for the host country (e.g. it was policy that women wear long sleeves and caps in public during Desert Storm). It may still be policy, for all I know. At any rate, it's a reasonable consideration. Like...removing your shoes before walking on the fine Persian rugs. Personally I don't blame them. The only thing I find interesting is that we had to of these boats have mechanical problems at the same time. Something is fishy there. Just one boat, from everything I've heard. The working boat wouldn't leave the casualty on its own in the middle of the Gulf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Just one boat, from everything I've heard. The working boat wouldn't leave the casualty on its own in the middle of the Gulf. Makes sense. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Video shows American sailor’s apology to Iran, contradicts White House by Laura Italiano Original Article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Video shows American sailor’s apology to Iran, contradicts White Houseby Laura Italiano Original Article Like the old song says: There it is. I wonder if the Iranians were at any point concerned with the response they'd get from the Obama administration if they made this video. Just kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 16, 2016 Author Share Posted January 16, 2016 http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/17/world/middleeast/iran-implementation-day-nuclear-sanctions.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=b-lede-package-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0 The end to the sanctions is a success for the government of Hassan Rouhani, but a costly one for Iran’s ruling system. Since the deal was signed in July, Iran has had to put into storage more than 12,000 centrifuges, ship out almost its entire stockpile of enriched uranium and remove the core of its heavy-water reactor. Many officials, especially hard-liners, find it hard to present the nuclear agreement as a victory, especially when so much was given up in compromise. “Nuclear burial,” the hard-line newspaper Vatan-e Emrouz wrote in a headline on its front page on Saturday, showing a picture of freshly poured concrete, similar to what replaced the core of the reactor. The government, at odds with the hard-liners, prefers to focus on the economic gains Iran can expect now that sanctions, some in place since 2007, are to be lifted. Mr. Rouhani also emphasizes at almost every opportunity how, during his administration, Iran has stepped out of its isolation. And so it has. The German foreign minister, Frank-Walter Steinmeier, is planning his second visit to the country; the Chinese president, Xi Jinping, will visit Tehran on Jan. 22; and Mr. Rouhani will visit Italy and France immediately after Mr. Xi leaves. Mr. Rouhani likes to call the deal a “win-win” for both sides, though conservatives in both Iran and the United States say it is more win-lose, with the other side winning. Nice job Mr President! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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