LB3 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 (edited) Anyone else leave that Cavs' team besides Lebron? Only one worth noting was Mo Williams, and they basically swapped players for the same production. Edited June 18, 2015 by LBSeeBallLBGetBall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 So because the rules allowed hand checking and more physicality, it's that means all of the teams were deeper or better? To me, it just means the rules were different. No, it just means the game was different and required a different breed of player. Tougher, more physical, more contested drives and shots. The only thing that's improved dramatically since the 90s in terms of the talent level is the amount of international talent coming into the game. The 90s had a bevy of hall of fame type big men playing across the league: Shaq, the Admiral, The Dream, Ewing, Morning, Mutumbo, even guys like Smits, Divac and Seikaly. How many dominate bigs are there today? Howard (when he feels like it), Anthony Davis, Cousins and Gasol... that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 You've been sitting here the entire time talking about how the Bulls were loaded but now all the sudden they weren't? Saying the league wasn't as deep as everyone says it was isn't the same thing as saying the Bulls weren't loaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Only one worth noting was Mo Williams, and they basically swapped players for the same production. And coaches and half the roster which would obviously lead to a significant production drop off. But it's a good story so keep trying to tell it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 No, it just means the game was different and required a different breed of player. Tougher, more physical, more contested drives and shots. The only thing that's improved dramatically since the 90s in terms of the talent level is the amount of international talent coming into the game. The 90s had a bevy of hall of fame type big men playing across the league: Shaq, the Admiral, The Dream, Ewing, Morning, Mutumbo, even guys like Smits, Divac and Seikaly. How many dominate bigs are there today? Howard (when he feels like it), Anthony Davis, Cousins and Gasol... that's it. I'll give you this, center has been a dying position in recent years(hopefully guys like Towns/Embid/Okafor change that). Hell. Just look at the Warriors. Outside shooting has been the prominent way of scoring for years now. I believe that guards and small forwards are much more talented as a whole nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 (edited) I'll give you this, center has been a dying position in recent years(hopefully guys like Towns/Embid/Okafor change that). Hell. Just look at the Warriors. Outside shooting has been the prominent way of scoring for years now. I believe that guards and small forwards are much more talented as a whole nowadays. Does the lack of dominant big men have a greater effect on a jump shooter or a lane driver? Edited June 18, 2015 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 And coaches and half the roster which would obviously lead to a significant production drop off. But it's a good story so keep trying to tell it. Like I said, no one really of note. Does the lack of dominant big men have a greater effect on a jump shooter or a lane driver? It does. Having a big man on the court is a detriment to the team guarding small lineups with great outside shooters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Like I said, no one really of note. Name a similar situation in NBA history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 18, 2015 Author Share Posted June 18, 2015 (edited) JR Smith opting out of his contract with Cavs because he thinks he can get more money. He's 30 and was terrible in the finals. Edited June 18, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 JR Smith opting out of his contract with Cavs because he thinks he can get more money. He's 30 and was terrible in the finals. He finally made a business decision as bad as his shooting decisions. Like I said, no one really of note. It does. Having a big man on the court is a detriment to the team guarding small lineups with great outside shooters. That wasn't my question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 That wasn't my question. Yeah. My mistake. I definitely read it wrong. Lane drivers is the answer. I'm going to check out of the LJ-MJ discussion though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 JR Smith opting out of his contract with Cavs because he thinks he can get more money. He's 30 and was terrible in the finals. I like his ability to knock down shots, but the pouting that reared it's ugly head in games 4-6 was infuriating. So not only was he shooting terribly, but he was feeling bad for himself and not hustling back on D or running hard to get open because of it. I thought he had changed after coming to a better team with more accountability, but I was wrong. Good riddance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Re Blatt... This was obvious to me too: http://espn.go.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/3896/lebrons-handling-of-blatt-unbecoming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Re Blatt... This was obvious to me too: http://espn.go.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/3896/lebrons-handling-of-blatt-unbecoming Ha, I was just about to post that same article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Ha, I was just about to post that same article. I agree with Stein. Really bad form by LeBron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Steve Kerr: We're just going to sit on the couch and drink beer and watch the US Open the next three days. Awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 25, 2015 Author Share Posted June 25, 2015 Interesting @JeffZillgitt: NBA moving forward w/plan to seed conference playoff teams 1-8 regardless of division winner starting in 15-16, per high-ranking NBA exec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Interesting @JeffZillgitt: NBA moving forward w/plan to seed conference playoff teams 1-8 regardless of division winner starting in 15-16, per high-ranking NBA exec. It would be nice if the NFL followed suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Alright OSU fans, give me the dirt on Russell. I'm not sure how to feel about this one, I really wanted Okafor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 (edited) Alright OSU fans, give me the dirt on Russell. I'm not sure how to feel about this one, I really wanted Okafor. I watched a decent amount of him. Thought he had the best chance to be a superstar in this draft out of the top 3. He's an athlete but not crazy. Best G in the draft for sure. Even with Mudiay. Edited June 25, 2015 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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