Chandler#81 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 The Broncos defense was bad in 2011. How do you figure that? They were in most games they played Despite Tebow, who would pull some magic outta his azz late in the 4th to win like 10-9/ 14-13. It's how they won the Division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 (edited) How do you figure that? They were in most games they played Despite Tebow, who would pull some magic outta his azz late in the 4th to win like 10-9/ 14-13. It's how they won the Division.20th in YPG. 16th in YPP. 24th in PPG. Mediocre to bad. It's a common misconception that Denver's D "held on" for 57 minutes, then Tebow put together the game winning drive. That happened a few times, but it's not the whole story. Edited February 16, 2015 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 20th in YPG. 16th in YPP. 24th in PPG. Mediocre to bad. It's a common misconception that Denver's D "held on" for 57 minutes, then Tebow put together the game winning drive. That happened a few times, but it's not the whole story. Point taken. Tebow still sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uffalo Ills Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 His performance at the end of the year is very concerning to me. Is that leg going to fully heal up? More concerning than EJ's performance against the Texans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 More concerning than EJ's performance against the Texans? Because was picked by JJ Freakin' Watt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 (edited) 20th in YPG. 16th in YPP. 24th in PPG. Mediocre to bad. It's a common misconception that Denver's D "held on" for 57 minutes, then Tebow put together the game winning drive. That happened a few times, but it's not the whole story. Wasn't it a season where Denver got killed 3-4 times hurting the average stats, and won like 5 games scoring under 20 points? It's a large part of the story. Like 6 of the 7 wins be chalked up were late come from behinds (numbers guessed off memory, correct me if I'm way off) Edited February 16, 2015 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 (edited) Point taken. Tebow still sucks. He sure did. But that defense wasn't all that. Which was the main point, because when Peyton got there, all they did was build on D. Wasn't it a season where Denver got killed 3-4 times hurting the average stats, and won like 5 games scoring under 20 points? It's a large part of the story. Like 6 of the 7 wins be chalked up were late come from behinds (numbers guessed off memory, correct me if I'm way off)I think you're close to the money there, I can't look at their schedule now. I know the Bills dropped 40 on them. However, it's not fair to say, "the defense was pretty good, not counting those games they let up 40." You know? I can get behind that they played pretty good in their wins, and bad in their losses, but they weren't good on the whole. Edited February 16, 2015 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 More concerning than EJ's performance against the Texans? Seriously? That one INT doesn't happen, we win that game and he starts the year 3-1... c'mon now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted William's frozen head Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 (edited) 20th in YPG. 16th in YPP. 24th in PPG. Mediocre to bad. It's a common misconception that Denver's D "held on" for 57 minutes, then Tebow put together the game winning drive. That happened a few times, but it's not the whole story. Because GOD obviously presides over football games...... A gimped up Manning is still 1000X better than the mama's boy, Tebow. Edited February 16, 2015 by Ted William's frozen head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Because GOD obviously presides over football games...... A gimped up Manning is still 1000X better than the mama's boy, Tebow. Is anyone trying to make a point about Tebow? I'm lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 16, 2015 Author Share Posted February 16, 2015 Seriously? That one INT doesn't happen, we win that game and he starts the year 3-1... c'mon now. and I've seen worse pick 6s thrown by much "better" QBs. If PI is righteously called on woods on the last drive, we have a 1st down at the Texans 11. We could still have won that game. The most concerning thing to me from EJ in 2014 was the tentativeness and the inaccuracy, which led to the WRs getting frustrated and giving up on catches. I don't think he will ever be a really accurate QB but I do think he could get back to where he was as a rookie when I don't remember the tentativeness in the pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 20th in YPG. 16th in YPP. 24th in PPG. Mediocre to bad. It's a common misconception that Denver's D "held on" for 57 minutes, then Tebow put together the game winning drive. That happened a few times, but it's not the whole story. Thank you. Those late game 'heroics' came late in the season which pushed the Broncos to the Division Title in a year 'Somebody' had to win the crappy AFCW.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uffalo Ills Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Seriously? That one INT doesn't happen, we win that game and he starts the year 3-1... c'mon now. ok. I was making a point there. But seriously, you must be crazy if you think a bad Manning is better than the average EJ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uffalo Ills Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 (edited) My plan for the next 2 years (Fantasy/Perfect World): 2015: Draft a RB Sign Iupati Sign Jordan Cameron Re-sign Searcy, Hogan, Wynn, Easly, Thigpen (that's it.) Cut all useless players, like Pears Extend Dareus (so far, so good, huh?) Get Peyton Manning on a 1-2 year Mega Deal Playoffs, Baby!!!! 2016: Get Foles out of FA Extend other players that are FA and valuable Enjoy the next few years of dominance, as we crush a Brady-less AFC East year after year... Edited February 17, 2015 by Uffalo Ills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 17, 2015 Author Share Posted February 17, 2015 @SBNationNFL: Shocker: the Broncos 'definitely' want Peyton Manning to return: http://t.co/BwQwR83WJjhttp://t.co/GdK7Bihpt6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 19, 2015 Author Share Posted February 19, 2015 Hmmm - Elway asking him to take a pay cut? @AndrewSiciliano: Interesting. Very. RT @AroundTheNFL: John Elway said Broncos want Peyton Manning back, but he's yet to give final word he wants to return. @AroundTheNFL: Elway deflects question about contract issues playing a role in Manning hestiation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 IMHO, he's got nothing left to prove or accomplish. All that's left for him now is to take his place in Canton. Time to hang up the helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 IMHO, he's got nothing left to prove or accomplish. All that's left for him now is to take his place in Canton. Time to hang up the helmet. Except get a few more in on Brady. Wonder where he'd get a chance to play Brady, once, maybe even twice, possibly even three times, in a season every year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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