YoloinOhio Posted January 25, 2015 Posted January 25, 2015 Matt Miller is the lead nfl draft writer for bleacher report. I have heard this same sentiment now for awhile but as we get closer to the draft I was wondering how it would shake out. He tweeted this today: @nfldraftscout: I'm not generally a pessimistic person, so let this sink in: This draft class is not very good. He's kind of pompous on twitter (btw he did not like EJ; was obsessed with Watkins) but he is always providing tons of info on draft prospects. I just think it's interesting that Whaley was not too protective of this year's draft picks. More than likely, he knew last year was the draft to hit on. Though Cyrus and Cyril haven't panned out yet, I don't know they won't especially with different scheme and coaching. Any draft gurus out there agree with Miller?
Kirby Jackson Posted January 25, 2015 Posted January 25, 2015 I'm not a draft guru but I follow it pretty closely. This draft stinks. There are a couple of QB prospects, some good RBs and WRs as well as pass rushers. The depth is bad and I don't see a lot of franchise type guys. If Jameis and/or Mariota don't pan out out it could be a disaster. The RBs will probably end up to be the best position group IMO.
YoloinOhio Posted January 25, 2015 Author Posted January 25, 2015 (edited) I just texted my relative who is with another FO (not Bills) and he said at this point in time they do not have 32 players with first rd grades :/ Obviously that could change by draft time but geez. Edited January 25, 2015 by YoloinOhio
Bangarang Posted January 25, 2015 Posted January 25, 2015 Here's this draft class in a nutshell: There a quite a few good players. Guys that will carve out decent NFL careers. The senior class is not very good. The QB class looks even worse. The RB class looks good. The top of the draft lacks blue chip players.
NoSaint Posted January 25, 2015 Posted January 25, 2015 Everyone said for a year now that last years 2 would probably be on par with a 1 this year talent wise- no shock
EmotionallyUnstable Posted January 25, 2015 Posted January 25, 2015 Interesting take on Whaleys move.
truth on hold Posted January 25, 2015 Posted January 25, 2015 On 1/25/2015 at 8:38 PM, Bangarang said: Here's this draft class in a nutshell: There a quite a few good players. Guys that will carve out decent NFL careers. The senior class is not very good. The QB class looks even worse. The RB class looks good. The top of the draft lacks blue chip players. Really? I bet Winston and marriota are still the first qbs taken if the classes were combined. Sadly the #1 overall 2014 picks entire career is already in serious doubt Same goes for manziel, the most visible player So far the only thing that looks above average from the 2014 draft is the WR class, and maybe ...just maybe ....the LBs
YoloinOhio Posted January 25, 2015 Author Posted January 25, 2015 On 1/25/2015 at 8:38 PM, Bangarang said: Here's this draft class in a nutshell: There a quite a few good players. Guys that will carve out decent NFL careers. The senior class is not very good. The QB class looks even worse. The RB class looks good. The top of the draft lacks blue chip players. I agree last year there were 4 consensus elite players at the top. Now we see there may have been more with all the rookie success.
Maury Ballstein Posted January 25, 2015 Posted January 25, 2015 On 1/25/2015 at 9:52 PM, JTSP said: Really? I bet Winston and marriota are still the first qbs taken if the classes were combined. Sadly the #1 overall 2014 picks entire career is already in serious doubt Same goes for manziel, the most visible player So far the only thing that looks above average from the 2014 draft is the WR class, and maybe ...just maybe ....the LBs what are you saying here? is this related to ODB ? This draft is weak except at rb. NFL.com's guy has Mariota falling to 18 to the chiefs.
truth on hold Posted January 25, 2015 Posted January 25, 2015 On 1/25/2015 at 10:12 PM, Ryan L Billz said: what are you saying here? is this related to ODB ? This draft is weak except at rb. NFL.com's guy has Mariota falling to 18 to the chiefs. 2014 was deep at WR...you disputing that? Winston, marriota, and the 3 first round QBs from 2014 (bortles, manziel, Bridgewater) are all in the same class. How do you rank them? Im saying Winston and marriota go ahead of the others
Maury Ballstein Posted January 25, 2015 Posted January 25, 2015 Jameis, Bortles, Bridgewater, Marriota, Manziel is my order. 2014 had tons of talent. Zach Martin, CJ Mosely, and the almighty wideouts.
John from Riverside Posted January 25, 2015 Posted January 25, 2015 To me it makes a world of sense to take a RB with that 2nd round pick........ Get a guy that makes his living between the tackles
EmotionallyUnstable Posted January 25, 2015 Posted January 25, 2015 On 1/25/2015 at 10:29 PM, John from Hemet said: To me it makes a world of sense to take a RB with that 2nd round pick........ Get a guy that makes his living between the tackles I'd prefer a later round pick for the RB position. I feel you can get better talent in the later rounds at RB than you could, say, TE
YoloinOhio Posted January 26, 2015 Author Posted January 26, 2015 On 1/25/2015 at 11:29 PM, AlwaysBilleve said: I'd prefer a later round pick for the RB position. I feel you can get better talent in the later rounds at RB than you could, say, TEin this draft, probably true. Very good RB draft.
papazoid Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 On 1/25/2015 at 8:34 PM, YoloinOhio said: I just texted my relative who is with another FO (not Bills) and he said at this point in time they do not have 32 players with first rd grades :/ Obviously that could change by draft time but geez. good year not to have a first round pick.....(laffin)
NoSaint Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 On 1/25/2015 at 10:23 PM, Ryan L Billz said: Jameis, Bortles, Bridgewater, Marriota, Manziel is my order. 2014 had tons of talent. Zach Martin, CJ Mosely, and the almighty wideouts. And even still jameis will be a big question mark. He isn't the traditional #1 qb
John from Riverside Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 On 1/26/2015 at 2:14 AM, papazoid said: good year not to have a first round pick.....(laffin) It does sound like a bad year to draft a starting QB....which might have factored into Whaley's decision on compensation for Sammy W.
YoloinOhio Posted January 26, 2015 Author Posted January 26, 2015 On 1/26/2015 at 2:33 AM, John from Hemet said: It does sound like a bad year to draft a starting QB....which might have factored into Whaley's decision on compensation for Sammy W. yeah no doubt that has been pretty clear for awhile they didn't pass up a franchise QB with the 19th pick. Pretty sure some will continue to use the "mortgaged their future" line. Rather they just have up the right to draft a rookie at some other position at 19 that probably has 2nd rd talent.
truth on hold Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 On 1/25/2015 at 9:43 PM, AlwaysBilleve said: Interesting take on Whaleys move. yeah, why trade a 1st and 4th to trade up for WR in a draft that was deep in WRs
YoloinOhio Posted January 26, 2015 Author Posted January 26, 2015 On 1/26/2015 at 2:45 AM, JTSP said: yeah, why trade a 1st and 4th to trade up for WR in a draft that was deep in WRs fresh perspective!
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