voodoo poonani Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Do you guys realize that once you get below the offensive, defensive, and ST's coordinator these mean very little....... Lets not nitpick the damn thing......the team got experienced guys that know how to win Who? Won what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 (edited) Do you guys realize that once you get below the offensive, defensive, and ST's coordinator these mean very little....... Lets not nitpick the damn thing......the team got experienced guys that know how to win Disagree. As Darth Hoodie would tell you, good fortune is a byproduct of preparation and opportunity. The work that gets done on Wednesday and Thursday is critical to what happens on Sunday. The position coaches are there for a reason...to efficiently organize and communicate the game plan, make sure their charges are doing their film work, answering questions and basically hearding the cats so the HC and coordinators can focus on the big picture. That's a very important role and one that typically entails management skills as well as positional knowledge... Edited January 20, 2015 by Lurker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyHorseAteTheKid Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I just hope the O-Line and QB play improves...If not I'll be screaming about the new coaches, just like I did about Hackett.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Other than Roman, my feelings are mixed about the new offensive coaching staff: http://espn.go.com/blog/buffalo-bills/post/_/id/17112/rex-ryans-coaching-staff-nearly-complete Kromer should be an upgrade for the OL. Wish he had kept Rob Moore as WR coach, and looked more outside of the Jets for some of the hires. Your thoughts? I feel the same way. When Ryan came over he immediately brought his defensive staff (as expected), but the only offensive coach that was with him was the TE coach. Clearly he wanted to consult with Roman about the offensive coaches. I was hoping Rex would step away from the offense a bit and give Roman more freedom. With the influx of Jets coaches, it doesn't look like he did. The Jets offense was a disaster for the last 4 years, I thought it was time for Rex to cut ties with that group and start with a clean slate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 (edited) I'll say this. On paper, the O staff and their track records look very meh. Outside of Roman and Kromer (who could be a disaster if OC but he's not..he's the oline coach and IMO probably what he should be til he retires) so I'm good with him and his track record with olines. But I think Rex siding with "trust" and "loyalty" to some of these guys is more important then looking for guys who want to enhance the resume and move on. I've seen this happen at the freaking high school level (I coached 15 years here in VA). The best staffs are obviously knowledgeable but also are all on board with the system. This is going to be tricky as hell to get this O right and I think having these guys all on the same page, familiar with each other, and loyal to Rex and thus Roman is more important than getting WR or QB or RB coaches not familiar with each other and no loyalty to Roman or Rex. The struggles on O this year are inevitable and having a bunch of O coaches more concerned with how that will reflect on them could lead to dysfunction among the staff. Which is possible if these guys had no history or know who they are and how they work. Does that make sense? Edited January 20, 2015 by Big Blitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1973 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Why do fans care about position coaches? They coach how their bosses want them to coach. Their success or failure is basically how much talent they have. Roman will create a scheme based on the players, position coaches help implement that scheme. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted January 20, 2015 Author Share Posted January 20, 2015 The smart thing for Rex now is to just let Roman do what he does best with the offense and just oversee things as a coach. After the season, give him more input on which of those coaches stay, and which ones go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 No one can speak intelligently about any position coach. Joe D'allesandris is one of the best OL coaches in the NFL. He's been a huge addition to the chargers. George Catavolos is a terrible dB coach. Nothing more to say about him....Except he's bad Intelligent? Maybe. Maybe not. True stories though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Who's playing quarterback? That will dictate how everyone feels about the assistant coaches by midseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Not a fan of the QB coach, David Lee, at all. Fitzpatrick did not look great with this guy, and a glance at this resume leads me to wonder who he's worked with that actually showed success? Don't even get me started with the wildcat. Tony Romo specifically credits Lee with taking him from a very raw prospect into a professional football QB (see "The return of David Lee" thread for a link). So there is that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
217014170 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Has Greg Roman said anything to anyone? Is he going to telecommute and call plays from his Microsoft Surface? It does seem odd that Ryan seems to be playing "you snooze you lose" with the offensive coaching staff. Roman is coming off as either uninspired or supremely confident. I really believe Roman as OC was a contingency in Ryan being hired. He was all about Trestman until the Bills hired him and Roman became the choice. Terry Pegula's Penn State Greg Roman. Something to ponder and watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Who? Won what? Rex, Thurman and Roman? Ya know, the main guys that will be leading this team and have won in the playoffs and even gone to a Super Bowl? I'm not sure what people expect when teams hire position coaches. Are you guys looking for an elite staff made up of accomplished HCs and coordinators as position coaches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Roman is coming off as either uninspired or supremely confident. How so? What dots are you connecting that lead you to that conclusion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
217014170 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 How so? What dots are you connecting that lead you to that conclusion? No dots...maybe there are a ton of comments out there but I have not seen anything coming directly from Roman endorsing the selections for the offensive position coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I love the Greg Roman hire as he controls the entire offense and knows how to build an effective running game that can actually move the chains and control the clock. Unlike Hackett who just knew how to call up the middle plays with Spiller, and really all he did was gain a bunch of yards in losing efforts. The hire i really, really dislike was the David Lee as QB coach who I feel screwed up Fitz, and did a really horrible job last year with Geno Smith. Anyone recall how bad Geno looked in his two games against Buffalo, and even Michael Vick didn't look much better. Dunno why Rex hired this man. I kinda support hiring an OC and then let him pick his assistants. The rest of the hires I don't know much about except that new O line coach in Kromer was the Bears OC last season, and wasn't he the one who blabbed to the media about the team strife inside the locker room? Seems like players will need to be watching what they say around him. The entire problems with the offense are going to be how effective the GM is in finding better talent for the O line, RB if they don't retain Spiller, and most importantly at QB. If Whaley fails then the offense fails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 (edited) No one can speak intelligently about any position coach. Their mothers love them. Edited January 20, 2015 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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