bbb Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Talk Radio, regardless of the topic, is complete garbage. Not when it's done right - Howard Stern, Tony Kornheiser, Adam Carolla, etc. LeBatard is entertainment...He's not Sports talk and he readily admits it...He literally says if you're looking for serious Sports Talk you are listening to the wrong show...He also addresses the folks who complain about it quite often and says that's what they do and that's what their show is about...It's not a Sports Talk show...It's a radio talk show that happens to have a lot of Sports interviews...That's all... BTW...I think LeBatard can be extremely funny at times...I enjoy the change...And the Wiley segments are gold... I always hated everything I knew about him. But, to get away from Shope and the Bulldog and usually it's just one of them in the summer, I putting it on 1520, which has Dan L during the whole Lebron saga. Turns out I do like his show and for reasons you said - he's pretty funny and I don't really like straight up sports talk (unless it's on a Monday). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tintonfallsbillsfan Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 If anyone listened to Wgr on Friday the 13th . You heard something, new and exciting, something different, something new. It was Sal and the Bulldog, it was 100 percent better then the day usual mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumblefish Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 all this anti Schoop posting's, makes want to shout and tune in every day, who knows I could become a fan, if he riles up the posters, that's a good thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 all this anti Schoop posting's, makes want to shout and tune in every day, who knows I could become a fan, if he riles up the posters, that's a good thing Admitting your a troll is a bad look. Hope a boot follows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
respk Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Sal and Bulldog are at least somewhat listenable. I think if they found a decent partner for Sal the show would be much better. WGR much be happy with Schoop since he's still there. Besides look at all of the postings in this thread. As some say, there is no bad publicity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ1 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Sal and Bulldog are at least somewhat listenable. I think if they found a decent partner for Sal the show would be much better. WGR much be happy with Schoop since he's still there. Besides look at all of the postings in this thread. As some say, there is no bad publicity. In my case there is. If Schoop's on, I'm off. Worst radio host encountered in my entire life. I'm 68. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Their commercials are the worst...can't stand them. I sing this over their jingle to drown it out. "William C's rotten son...ste-e-eeeeeeeeeeeeeeals your phone." And if that ever gets old you can go with "...son's....heeeeeeeeeeeeering bone." As some say, there is no bad publicity. Except in this instance, when publicity has no value whatsoever. It's like Cuba getting bad publicity for their "everybody gets a new pot" economic plan. If you're Cuban? In the end, you either take the pot, or you don't. WGR could do 0 appearances and no advertising for years. WGR could crap on both teams constantly(oh...wait)...and we'd still listen because we know that it's the only place we can get Bills info. If you're a Bills/Sabres fan? In the end, you either take WGR, or you don't. It's not like ESPN is worth a damn. It used to be about the bias towards big market teams. Now? It's about injecting PC stories wherever they can find them, and demanding "apologies" from anyone who crosses their imposed "line". And if not, spending hours discussing who does/does not have to apologize. Yellow journalism? Hell ESPN is now muck raking. ESPN will spend 100 minutes on Michael Sam or Tim Tebow for every 1 minute they spend analyzing football plays. NFL network was OK, but now they are headed in that same direction. Our current choice: listen to WGR or go without. Thus, we are left with attempting to condition their behavior with threads like this. What other recourse do we have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 If anyone listened to Wgr on Friday the 13th . You heard something, new and exciting, something different, something new. It was Sal and the Bulldog, it was 100 percent better then the day usual mess On a tangental note regarding WGR-550 broadcasting. Has anyone else noticed just how many days either Bulldog or Schopp miss? I mean it seems like it is difficult to string together 2 straight weeks where both of them are working 5 days each week. Taking a "sick day" because your voice is shot is probably a reality of talk broadcasting, and Howard Simon often struggles with those problems, but I don't think that's the situation with Schopp and Bulldog. It's weird how much time they miss. Another funny observation: they like to take a past/pre-recorded big interview or segment from the last few days and then play it in the last 1/2 hour slot of their show, from 6:30pm to 7:00pm....so they can basically go home early. They do this frequently and it's just another thing that strikes me as funny. It's like it is snowing and a storm is coming in or something, they look at each other, take the big recorded interview from 2 days previously with Tim Murray or whatever...re-air it....and split early! It's like something the high school intern would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tintonfallsbillsfan Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 The only way this changes if the advertising dollars dry up , based on the level of commercials I don't know how much lower they can go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 On a tangental note regarding WGR-550 broadcasting. Has anyone else noticed just how many days either Bulldog or Schopp miss? I mean it seems like it is difficult to string together 2 straight weeks where both of them are working 5 days each week. Taking a "sick day" because your voice is shot is probably a reality of talk broadcasting, and Howard Simon often struggles with those problems, but I don't think that's the situation with Schopp and Bulldog. It's weird how much time they miss. Another funny observation: they like to take a past/pre-recorded big interview or segment from the last few days and then play it in the last 1/2 hour slot of their show, from 6:30pm to 7:00pm....so they can basically go home early. They do this frequently and it's just another thing that strikes me as funny. It's like it is snowing and a storm is coming in or something, they look at each other, take the big recorded interview from 2 days previously with Tim Murray or whatever...re-air it....and split early! It's like something the high school intern would do. The previously recorded and ran interview at the end of the show always stuck me as odd...I'm glad someone else noticed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 The previously recorded and ran interview at the end of the show always stuck me as odd...I'm glad someone else noticed... To be fair that is fairly common practice. The idea is to let folks who missed the interview get caught up, especially if that interview was on when a lot of people are still at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 (edited) And if that ever gets old you can go with "...son's....heeeeeeeeeeeeering bone." Except in this instance, when publicity has no value whatsoever. It's like Cuba getting bad publicity for their "everybody gets a new pot" economic plan. If you're Cuban? In the end, you either take the pot, or you don't. WGR could do 0 appearances and no advertising for years. WGR could crap on both teams constantly(oh...wait)...and we'd still listen because we know that it's the only place we can get Bills info. If you're a Bills/Sabres fan? In the end, you either take WGR, or you don't. It's not like ESPN is worth a damn. It used to be about the bias towards big market teams. Now? It's about injecting PC stories wherever they can find them, and demanding "apologies" from anyone who crosses their imposed "line". And if not, spending hours discussing who does/does not have to apologize. Yellow journalism? Hell ESPN is now muck raking. ESPN will spend 100 minutes on Michael Sam or Tim Tebow for every 1 minute they spend analyzing football plays. NFL network was OK, but now they are headed in that same direction. Our current choice: listen to WGR or go without. Thus, we are left with attempting to condition their behavior with threads like this. What other recourse do we have? I have said this for years, but really, "sports reporting" and "sports news coverage" in this country, in almost all media, is not, and never has been, about sports. When was the last time you saw some baseball news announcers on ESPN actually discussing the game of baseball directly? Like talk to a great pitcher and try to have him explain how a curve ball curves and show precisely how he holds the ball? Or talk to the best hitters in the game and discuss their bat dimensions and weights, and why one prefers X but one prefers Z? This is not what sports reporters report. They report on which athlete hit a tree last night while drunk driving, or any tangentially related topic they can find, that really has nothing to do with the game/sport itself. Then you have the usual idiotic questions that only sports reporters can ask after a football loss, let's say. Let's say a football game features a pivotal sack in which a DE easily gets around an OT and sacks the QB, causing fumble. The reporter will ask the OT who let the guy through: "So, was that disappointing?" Or "How did it feel when you saw your QB getting hit and the ball coming out?" It's always this type of canned crap where I can write the answer before the question is asked. Rarely do you hear a reporter ask anything technical or actually discuss the game of football. To me, a better question would be: "What are you thinking when you know you are going into pass protection, just a moment before the snap of the ball? What is the first thing you are trying to do once the ball is snapped? What specifically went wrong mechanically on that play so the opposing DE got around you so cleanly?" You know....like an actual football type of question so a guy who actually knows what it means to play OT in the NFL can teach me something about the sport of football, and explain a pivotal play in a game. Instead we get "Was that disappointing to see your man beat you like that?" "Uh no, I loved it and thought it was great." To be fair that is fairly common practice. The idea is to let folks who missed the interview get caught up, especially if that interview was on when a lot of people are still at work. I know what you mean by that, but that is not quite what I'm talking about. I don't mean to suggest they only do this on a day when big news broke earlier at an off-time. For example, the firing of Lindy Ruff was huge and that broke around 3pm on a week day. If Schopp & Bulldog re-aired the PC later that day at 6:30pm for those who missed the huge news earlier, that would make a lot of sense! I'm talking about some random day when they don't even announce or acknowledge what they are going to do...then just slip in some interview or something that previously aired like 3 days prior after the 6:30pm break....and their assumption is that not everyone listens all the time, so it will be "new enough" to enough people that they can just wrap up operations early. They do not stick around to formally announce the ending of the show at 7pm! Like they might re-air their weekly talk with John Clayton from ESPN or something like that (even though nothing interesting or important was really said)... I listen to John Clayton every week; he is a master at talking a mile a minute and saying nothing; he is also often flat-out wrong in his opinions/comments about things. His segment is actually very missable. Edited February 15, 2015 by Stopthepain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp2Warlick Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 my personal preference would be a 2 hour show strictly about NFL and predominantly Bills talk not hosted by anyone connected to the Bills. The rest of you hockey pucks can go listen to another show. Ha.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 the halloween candy draft was fantastic radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harv shitz Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 In my case there is. If Schoop's on, I'm off. Worst radio host encountered in my entire life. I'm 68. I agree 1000%. I won't even listen to that douchebag doing a commercial. There is nothing entertaining or compelling about his voice, delivery, content, etc. I have no idea why he has remained on air for so long, when it's so apparent he is so disliked by the captive audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 On a tangental note regarding WGR-550 broadcasting. Has anyone else noticed just how many days either Bulldog or Schopp miss? I mean it seems like it is difficult to string together 2 straight weeks where both of them are working 5 days each week. Taking a "sick day" because your voice is shot is probably a reality of talk broadcasting, and Howard Simon often struggles with those problems, but I don't think that's the situation with Schopp and Bulldog. It's weird how much time they miss. Another funny observation: they like to take a past/pre-recorded big interview or segment from the last few days and then play it in the last 1/2 hour slot of their show, from 6:30pm to 7:00pm....so they can basically go home early. They do this frequently and it's just another thing that strikes me as funny. It's like it is snowing and a storm is coming in or something, they look at each other, take the big recorded interview from 2 days previously with Tim Murray or whatever...re-air it....and split early! It's like something the high school intern would do. I have said this numerous times. I call them Schopp OR The Bulldog. Because that's what you usually get. I know part of me is just jealous because I own my own business and have to work all the friggin time, and it drives me nuts that these two have soooooo much free time. I shouldn't follow them on twitter, to see Bulldog listening to album after album while playing his guitar, spending weeks at a time in Canada or Schoop playing some game on his phone............I don't have time for any of that kind of stuff and it pisses me off that other people do. LOL But, they seriously have to work the least of anybody I know who is supposedly working full-time. They are off so much it's crazy, they leave early when they want. And, they have to have the weakest immune systems in the world - because they get sick more in a year than I've been in the my whole life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 the halloween candy draft was fantastic radio.Said no one ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I have said this numerous times. I call them Schopp OR The Bulldog. Because that's what you usually get. I know part of me is just jealous because I own my own business and have to work all the friggin time, and it drives me nuts that these two have soooooo much free time. I shouldn't follow them on twitter, to see Bulldog listening to album after album while playing his guitar, spending weeks at a time in Canada or Schoop playing some game on his phone............I don't have time for any of that kind of stuff and it pisses me off that other people do. LOL But, they seriously have to work the least of anybody I know who is supposedly working full-time. They are off so much it's crazy, they leave early when they want. And, they have to have the weakest immune systems in the world - because they get sick more in a year than I've been in the my whole life. With Schopp at least, I alway just assumed "a sick day" meant "staying home with the kids because one of them is sick" or something like this. I have nothing against a parent staying home with a sick child or whatever. It's just that they have very public "look at me" sorts of jobs, and people like that usually work all the time. I'm surprised the station has such a flexible approach to be honest. It's just kind of weird; one or the other is gone constantly. By the same token, Sal is the "iron man" or utility player of the operation. The poor guy is on all the time and sometimes works double shifts on the same day, at differing times. It's kind of interesting. Schopp has a weird habit of actually shouting into the microphone. His voice can be incredibly harsh and confrontational; Bulldog has a slight stutter-type problem. Some of the younger guys have absolutely no voice for radio whatsoever. And then you have Jeremy White. If you listen to him for a while, you realize he's just a complete idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 (edited) With Schopp at least, I alway just assumed "a sick day" meant "staying home with the kids because one of them is sick" or something like this. I have nothing against a parent staying home with a sick child or whatever. It's just that they have very public "look at me" sorts of jobs, and people like that usually work all the time. I'm surprised the station has such a flexible approach to be honest. It's just kind of weird; one or the other is gone constantly. By the same token, Sal is the "iron man" or utility player of the operation. The poor guy is on all the time and sometimes works double shifts on the same day, at differing times. It's kind of interesting. Schopp has a weird habit of actually shouting into the microphone. His voice can be incredibly harsh and confrontational; Bulldog has a slight stutter-type problem. Some of the younger guys have absolutely no voice for radio whatsoever. And then you have Jeremy White. If you listen to him for a while, you realize he's just a complete idiot. Sadly most of the WGR staff is pretty low quality, with a handful of exceptions. Most of the young guys are probably Buff State interns. Many big city sports talk stations have several ex-jocks as hosts. Guys who can talk knowledgably about the game. WGR's sister station in Boston WEEI does that. I guess Andrew Peters qualifies as the ex-jock host for hockey. They could use one or two guys for football. Edited February 16, 2015 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 (edited) The only way to make Hockey Hotline interesting is to count how many times those two talk over each other in a 5 minute period. I can barely make it 5 minutes with that show... Lol Two hosts desperately trying to yell over each other. It's sort of remarkable. Edited February 16, 2015 by TheFunPolice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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