DC Tom Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 No, you don't understand...again. Want to argue this out? Really? Erie Canal allowed for the movement to happen in many ways, just like Seneca Falls was on the canal and the women's movement thing. There were several big abolitionist conventions in Buffalo and along the canal. Transportation matters. Technology has a big affect on society. The Canal also had a major in spread religious revivalism in the 1820's and 1830's. Another example was the steam boat. Going up the Mississippi was possible only to St Louis--there were rapids there that boats could not cross--and in 1820 there were enough people there to get Missouri in as a state, but what was the big debate about? Slavery, so we got the Missouri Compromise. Transportation improvements also aided in runaway slaves, it brought more northerners to the south to see the horrors of slavery--the guy who created Delaware Park has left us with an extraordinary account of his travels there, Frederick Law Olmstead, so slavery was "closer" to the north now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 23, 2016 Author Share Posted March 23, 2016 You get jealous easy. Only Tom can know things, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 You get jealous easy. Only Tom can know things, lol Jealous? You just argued that the underground railroad was an ACTUAL railroad. There's no discussing anything with you. You're only here for mockery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 'Just words' -- Cubans see little change after O visit... Dissidents fume... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 24, 2016 Author Share Posted March 24, 2016 'Just words' -- Cubans see little change after O visit... Dissidents fume... You mean the whole world did not change right away? B-man is a tool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 You mean the whole world did not change right away? B-man is a tool I think that B-man was pointing out that Obama's message wasn't even in the same galaxy as Reagan when he said "Mr. Gorbachov, tear down this wall". Obama opted instead to have a threesome with Che and Raul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Meanwhile, in Argentina... Demonstrators in Buenos Aires protest against President Barack Obama's state visit, which coincides with an anniversary of a military coup backed by the U.S. But he did the tango. Olé! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Jealous? You just argued that the underground railroad was an ACTUAL railroad. There's no discussing anything with you. You're only here for mockery. Gheeesh, everyone knows it's called a subway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Meanwhile, in Argentina... Demonstrators in Buenos Aires protest against President Barack Obama's state visit, which coincides with an anniversary of a military coup backed by the U.S. But he did the tango. Olé! I thought about starting a separate thread on this, but I'll wait until the documents are actually declassified: "President Obama's visit to Argentina this week coincides with the anniversary of a dark moment in that country's history. Thursday marks 40 years since a 1976 military coup that ushered in that country's so-called Dirty War, when as many as 30,000 Argentines were killed or disappeared during a seven-year dictatorship. Human rights groups want the U.S. to divulge what it knew back then. The president is now promising that he will declassify new documents. http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2016/03/23/471563694/despite-the-awkward-timing-argentina-welcomes-obama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 I think that B-man was pointing out that Obama's message wasn't even in the same galaxy as Reagan when he said "Mr. Gorbachov, tear down this wall". Obama opted instead to have a threesome with Che and Raul. So let me get this straight. Obama gets paid off by the hotels, Cuban dictators to open it up so the Cuban people can work as slaves for the top Cuban officials to skim off the top? And Obama gets to relive his gay Chicago bath house days with Rahm this time with Raul? Nice deal....I guess? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 I thought about starting a separate thread on this, but I'll wait until the documents are actually declassified: "President Obama's visit to Argentina this week coincides with the anniversary of a dark moment in that country's history. Thursday marks 40 years since a 1976 military coup that ushered in that country's so-called Dirty War, when as many as 30,000 Argentines were killed or disappeared during a seven-year dictatorship. Human rights groups want the U.S. to divulge what it knew back then. The president is now promising that he will declassify new documents. http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2016/03/23/471563694/despite-the-awkward-timing-argentina-welcomes-obama He's nicely bookending his administration with apology tours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 He's nicely bookending his administration with apology tours. It will be very interesting to see what that tour will look like if Trump gets elected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 (edited) What an embarrassment. Would somebody please go get this guy of his Spring Break vaca? I can't believe a standing US president talks this way. He's worse than I ever imagined he would be. Pushing communism as a viable system? One that has been responsible 100 or 200 million deaths? Damn he's a puke. Edited March 25, 2016 by Dante Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 What an embarrassment. Would somebody please go get this guy of his Spring Break vaca? I can't believe a standing US president talks this way. He's worse than I ever imagined he would be. Pushing communism as a viable system? One that has been responsible 100 or 200 million deaths? Damn he's a puke. What am I missing here? I didn't hear anything terribly wrong with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 What am I missing here? I didn't hear anything terribly wrong with that? He's saying there are some good elements to communism. Insinuating that communism is somehow takes care of the moral aspect of government while capitalism takes care of the economic end I'm assuming. Communism has no moral benifits except making the citizens slave to the state. If lucky on its bad days they just slaughter millions to get their point across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 He's saying there are some good elements to communism. Insinuating that communism is somehow takes care of the moral aspect of government while capitalism takes care of the economic end I'm assuming. Communism has no moral benifits except making the citizens slave to the state. If lucky on its bad days they just slaughter millions to get their point across. I think he was referring more to socialism and the government's duty to provide for certain citizens. I don't have an issue with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 I think he was referring more to socialism and the government's duty to provide for certain citizens. I don't have an issue with that. One of those things I won't debate on. You either believe in that's the governments role or you don't. Anyway, who cares what this guy is referring to. He's always up to no good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 One of those things I won't debate on. You either believe in that's the governments role or you don't. Anyway, who cares what this guy is referring to. He's always up to no good. What do you mean by "that's the governments role"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 26, 2016 Author Share Posted March 26, 2016 How cool! Now the Stones are playing in Cuba! http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-35901988 Their world is changing is so many little ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) Cuban Agents Crack Down On Pro-Democracy Protests After Obama Visit... . Edited March 26, 2016 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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