Wacka Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 . Obama is a Kenyan, Anti-Imperialist Communist, Fascist Dictator! Now you finally get it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Given today, the OP of this thread is now: hilarious. In what way, any way, any way at all, can this now be considered a "nice move"? When Amnesty International is calling this a failure, and shows up with documented, significant increases in arrests, beatings and detentions? No. There is no way this is a nice move. Like most things leftist, this is a stupid move, made by those who are willing to put their own emtional self-gratification ahead of the bodies and lives of Cuban dissidents. Group masturbation is not an acceptable approach to foreign policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 VIVA LA REVOLUCION! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 Now you finally get it! Exactly. You prove my point perfectly Anyway: http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/article67382382.html If nothing else, President Obama’s state visit to Cuba has put on display the profound cynicism of its aging leaders and the cocoon of unreality and fawning obedience that surrounds them. “Give me the list now of political prisoners to release,” a rattled Raúl Castro replied to a questioner from CNN at a rare news conference that he was obliged to attend because it’s the custom for American presidents on foreign visits to take questions, along with their hosts: “If there are political prisoners, they’ll be free before nightfall.” What average Cubans did find amazing, however, was that Cuba’s president was forced to answer questions about the taboo topic of political prisoners. Man-on-the-street surveys by reporters found Cubans expressing shock at seeing Castro answering questions from reporters, including questions about human rights, or the lack of them, on the island. The dramatic moment will have a salutary effect among the Cuban populace. Cubans have been beaten down by decades of repression. They finally had a chance to see their regal leader brought down to Earth by a reporter’s question. This possibly is what President Obama had in mind when he said greater exposure to the world would ultimately be good for Cuba and its political evolution. Putting Raúl Castro in the hot seat may not have been part of the original plan, but it’s certainly part of the result. Welcome to the real world, Raúl. Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/article67382382.html#storylink=cpy Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/article67382382.html#storylink=cpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Exactly. You prove my point perfectly Anyway: http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/article67382382.html Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/article67382382.html#storylink=cpy Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/article67382382.html#storylink=cpy And when hussein leaves, they'll all be rounded up again. My GOD you people are gullible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 And when hussein leaves, they'll all be rounded up again. My GOD you people are gullible. You clowns have learned nothing about shock and awe, huh? Rome was not built in a day, the Berlin Wall stood for forty years and now Castro is forced into the light like a cockroach by Obama. Good job Mr. President! Joe, you are scum, btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 And when hussein leaves, they'll all be rounded up again. My GOD you people are gullible. Not gullible. Just stupid. You would at least think he'd understand that when a sentence starts with "If nothing else..." it is usually followed by some tiny morsel of results that inadvertently broke off the massive failure of the original intent. Gatorman is trying to prove the strategic and historic importance of Obama's visit to a country that has a long history of abusing the civil rights of its people. If nothing else, he completed a full sentence on his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 You clowns have learned nothing about shock and awe, huh? Rome was not built in a day, the Berlin Wall stood for forty years and now Castro is forced into the light like a cockroach by Obama. Good job Mr. President! Joe, you are scum, btw Why because I see what Obama is....a panderer to our enemies, a coward and a Muslim apologist? How about you go play in traffic, windowlicker. The adults are talking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Exactly. You prove my point perfectly Anyway: http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/article67382382.html Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/article67382382.html#storylink=cpy Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/article67382382.html#storylink=cpy So we lift sanctions on a country whose leaders deny they have political prisoners when the world knows they do? If nothing else this administration has proven time and time again it has no idea with regard to the art of negotiation. Reset Button anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 So we lift sanctions on a country whose leaders deny they have political prisoners when the world knows they do? If nothing else this administration has proven time and time again it has no idea with regard to the art of negotiation. Reset Button anyone? Wow, how Trump like of you! So you want to keep the Cuban people in isolation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Wow, how Trump like of you! So you want to keep the Cuban people in isolation? Yup. That is exactly what I said. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=negotiation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 Yup. That is exactly what I said. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=negotiation You don't want us lifting sanction, right? So leave them in isolation. Gees, you are a big help, not! Anything to bash Obama, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 You don't want us lifting sanction, right? So leave them in isolation. Gees, you are a big help, not! Anything to bash Obama, right? Sure lift the sanctions. But only if and when the Cuban government can stop with it's human rights violations. Not lift them so lefties like you can feel good about yourself while at the same time turning a blind eye to how Cuba treats their citizens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 Sure lift the sanctions. But only if and when the Cuban government can stop with it's human rights violations. Not lift them so lefties like you can feel good about yourself while at the same time turning a blind eye to how Cuba treats their citizens. So, just because we have a Democratic president we have to stop being pragmatic. So you want to stop trade with every country in the world that has human rights abuses? That sounds realistic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 So, just because we have a Democratic president we have to stop being pragmatic. So just because the convention is full of GOP members, it's okay to wish for a mass shooting to take place. See how you're a hypocrite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 B. O. fits right in there. He stole the property of the GM bond holders just like his hero Fidel did to the land and factory owners when he seized power. What are the chances we see his kids dressed in Che tee-shirts soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 So you want to stop trade with every country in the world that has human rights abuses? Now you're just mailing it. If you're going to be the resident idiot, at least try harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 So, just because we have a Democratic president we have to stop being pragmatic. So you want to stop trade with every country in the world that has human rights abuses? That sounds realistic! Negotiations are a pragmatic approach. Regarding your second point. Yes that's exactly what we're talking about here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 Negotiations are a pragmatic approach. Regarding your second point. Yes that's exactly what we're talking about here. You don't like the second point? But following your "logic" that's what we would do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 You don't like the second point? But following your "logic" that's what we would do Ending trade with countries that are involved in human rights violations is different for letting countries that participate in human rights violations from joining the club. Easier to negotiate with those wanting to join the club than kicking those out that are already in. That's some crazy logic I know. Have I pointed out recently how much you suck at this? And with regard to those we do trade with that violate the human rights of their citizens should also be negotiated with on some level with regard to trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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