DC Tom Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 There's also a nice touch during the wedding itself. When the septon is marrying them, he says, "Cursed be he who attempts to tear them asunder." At that moment, the camera is showing this: I wouldn't call that a "nice" touch. For all the subtlety this show usually possesses, that shot was like getting hit with a truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I wouldn't call that a "nice" touch. For all the subtlety this show usually possesses, that shot was like getting hit with a truck. I'm not sure I'd quite go that far, but then again, I'm no Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 another episode where all of us watching said damn the hour's up already. more of building the plot lines Bring on the Mountain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 I missed the episode. What happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) not too much Pod talks to Tryion in jail Little Finger picks up Sansa on the ship and offs the fool Littlefinger said the necklace was from him Tommen is told he will be king and get laid when he's married Jamie rapes his twin next to their dead son the king Sam takes Gilli (sp?) to mole's town to "keep her safe" from the black brothers - 1 woman , 100 men the Wildlings attack a village and send a boy survivor to Castle Black as a warning Danny marches to the gates of Meereen gives an anti slave speech the Dog and Arya are on the road to the Eyrie Edited April 21, 2014 by BillsFan-4-Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 So, we get to a part in the series where Jamie is "likable" then he "rapes" Cersei in the Sept and viewers are turned off. giggidy giggidy for the lurkers - spoiler alert .... https://tv.yahoo.com/news/game-thrones-breaker-chains-episode-181600643.html Hurry,” she was whispering now, “quickly, quickly, now, do it now, do me now. Jaime Jaime Jaime.” Her hands helped guide him. “Yes,” Cersei said as he thrust, “my brother, sweet brother, yes, like that, yes, I have you, you’re home now, you’re home now, you’re home.” She kissed his ear and stroked his short bristly hair. Jaime lost himself in her flesh." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Man Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 So, we get to a part in the series where Jamie is "likable" then he "rapes" Cersei in the Sept and viewers are turned off. giggidy giggidy for the lurkers - spoiler alert .... https://tv.yahoo.com...-181600643.html Hurry,” she was whispering now, “quickly, quickly, now, do it now, do me now. Jaime Jaime Jaime.” Her hands helped guide him. “Yes,” Cersei said as he thrust, “my brother, sweet brother, yes, like that, yes, I have you, you’re home now, you’re home now, you’re home.” She kissed his ear and stroked his short bristly hair. Jaime lost himself in her flesh." I'm not sure why the show thought they needed to veer so drastically in this.... All that time spent trying to redeem Jaime, which I believe has been what Martin has been working at through the books, is completely ruined by this. Also kind of ruins Cersai a bit by taking her down a peg from her position of power over everyone. I can't really see any good reason to stray from the source material in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 (edited) I'm not sure why the show thought they needed to veer so drastically in this.... All that time spent trying to redeem Jaime, which I believe has been what Martin has been working at through the books, is completely ruined by this. Also kind of ruins Cersai a bit by taking her down a peg from her position of power over everyone. I can't really see any good reason to stray from the source material in this. dunno. they have something in mind Maybe with the next death she loses her mind vs her imprisonment although I was anticipating that on the show. IIRC Jamie isn't that much of a big player in the near future man, I have to reread the books. too many variants. the biggest change I didn't like is the unborn "prince". unless Martin never had a future for King Rob's son. The part where Gendry (Baratheon) and Hot Pie leave Arya was different but that didn't bug me as much, Edited April 22, 2014 by BillsFan-4-Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Man Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 dunno. they have something in mind Maybe with the next death she loses her mind vs her imprisonment although I was anticipating that on the show. IIRC Jamie isn't that much of a big player in the near future man, I have to reread the books. too many variants. the biggest change I didn't like is the unborn "prince". unless Martin never had a future for King Rob's son. Was she definitely pregnant? I kind of recall it being hinted at but didn't know if it was actually confirmed at any point. Seems like based on these small changes the show could be a spoiler of sorts for the books assuming they both share the same ultimate ending goal. For instance now we might have a heads up that Rob's wife wasn't supposed to play much of a part, if any, to future story developments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 (edited) http://gameofthrones...ki/Talisa_Stark I'm trying to find a book reference but the web is all about the TV version Edited April 22, 2014 by BillsFan-4-Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Was she definitely pregnant? I kind of recall it being hinted at but didn't know if it was actually confirmed at any point. Seems like based on these small changes the show could be a spoiler of sorts for the books assuming they both share the same ultimate ending goal. For instance now we might have a heads up that Rob's wife wasn't supposed to play much of a part, if any, to future story developments. I agree...I don't know if it was ever definitively stated in the books that she was pregnant. But I also think GRRM didn't have much of a plan for her character and thus probably was okay with letting her get killed on the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Man Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I agree...I don't know if it was ever definitively stated in the books that she was pregnant. But I also think GRRM didn't have much of a plan for her character and thus probably was okay with letting her get killed on the show. That's my thought too and what I am getting at with the show maybe providing spoilers for future book story lines by cluing us in to what may not be of any importance. Could be just they don't have the time to get into it. Kind of like how in season 2 they skipped the entire thing with Stannis surrounding Stormsend and possibly laying siege to it so he could get a hold of one of Robert's bastards. That kid is in play a lot until Davos secretly ships him off. Maybe doesn't serve much more overall purpose than to show Davos has a heart and is one of the good guys but I always thought that kid might come back into play in the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/george-rr-martin-red-wedding-hard-to-write-fans-swore-off-books-2014244 As etched in the minds of heartbroken readers and viewers forever, the wedding in question saw the surprise slaughter of two beloved protagonists, Catelyn Stark and her son Robb Stark, King of the North, during an already-tense wedding As Martin, points out, the HBO version, from 2013's season 3, "turned it up by 11" by adding one more victim to the body count: Talisa, Robb's pregnant wife. "The TV Red Wedding is even worse than the book," Martin said, "We get a pregnant woman stabbed repeatedly in the belly." http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Jeyne_Westerling I may be thinking that the "enemies" are worried that she is pregnant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted April 28, 2014 Author Share Posted April 28, 2014 Well. So much for reading the books!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 WTF!?!?!?! Another left turn. A new scene not even in the books yet? WOW. As I recall Bran was not captured at Crasters in the books or was he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Man Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 I don't recall Bran coming across Craster at all but I am certain he wasn't captured by him. I didn't watch the episode but I read that the show is straying way off script in a number of ways so I'm not going to assume anything new is a book spoiler for certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 (edited) They took a huge detour with the defecting black crows at Crasters capturing Bran, and the Whitewalker "king" and the babies is totally new ... the "nicer" Jamie and Oath keeper were close to the books as I recall. Edited April 29, 2014 by BillsFan-4-Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acantha Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 I don't recall Bran coming across Craster at all but I am certain he wasn't captured by him. I didn't watch the episode but I read that the show is straying way off script in a number of ways so I'm not going to assume anything new is a book spoiler for certain. Pretty interesting, especially since the show up until recently has followed the books so closely. I guess this is the answer though as to how the show is going to continue once they reach the end of the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 (edited) Pretty interesting, especially since the show up until recently has followed the books so closely. I guess this is the answer though as to how the show is going to continue once they reach the end of the books. in some areas they follow the books closely, but I've seen a lot of areas where they ventured from the original storyline. reread my posts in this thread, I have listed all of the areas I feel they veered. Edited April 29, 2014 by BillsFan-4-Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Finally watched the episode last night. Yeah, they're veering way off in the events at and beyond the Wall. I don't remember any direwolves getting caught by anyone north of the wall, and Bran and his group never came across anyone besides Coldhands and the Three-Eyed Crow once they got past the wall (except for some Others, of course). And nothing was described about what happened to the Craster boys other than stories... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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