4BillsintheBurgh Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Thanks for running that one 'Stro. I really like the top 5 guys. General question for everyone (knowing that needs may be filled in FA)...is 105 too late to begin trying to address the O-line? I think if A) Hairston is back at full strength B) Hairston or Pears can play LG then 105 is a fine place to start because we have at least upgraded the line a little. If those are not true I think it should be earlier, maybe at 73 in Astro's sim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Of course it depends on what happens in FA...but if they do not address LG or RT in free agency prior to the draft, then I'd definitely go for a LG before the end of round 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Some great stuff here. Thanks, as always, Astro! Even if we don't have any glaring needs -as some proclaim, we STILL only won 6 games and we enjoyed the first really good Draft last year in many years. I suppose if the team is presented an offer they can't refuse, then jump. Otherwise, I'd prefer to give this new staff another solid 'at bat' with our allotted picks. Great young depth at already solid positions is some rarified air around here I'd like to breathe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Some great stuff here. Thanks, as always, Astro! Even if we don't have any glaring needs -as some proclaim, we STILL only won 6 games and we enjoyed the first really good Draft last year in many years. I suppose if the team is presented an offer they can't refuse, then jump. Otherwise, I'd prefer to give this new staff another solid 'at bat' with our allotted picks. Great young depth at already solid positions is some rarified air around here I'd like to breathe. Part of the reason for the great draft was because they traded back and got an extra 2nd AKA Kiko. It is probably the right play again this year if the draft board plays out as many are expecting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Makes perfect sense, but if you draft an OT with the skills you describe - chances are you're keeping him at tackle because of where you took him. It's the Nix opinion on guards that I'm not a fan of. I think you understand that there's more to the interior line than a place to hide poor tackles. If there are true guards in the draft that lack the finesse of the ND player, but are maulers with the potential you describe.. I'm very cool with that. Just please, no more guys who lack the techniques and ability to play the position. Imagine how effective our center could be with some talent next to him.. Yes, I'm not big on the "hide an inadequate tackle at guard" theory either. I am, however, a huge proponent of taking a college tackle, who if not for certain physical limitations (i.e. height, arm length, or some combination thereof) might otherwise play tackle in the NFL, and moving him to guard. I think guys like Levitre and Jahri Evans are great examples of that. My ideal conversion candidate this year is Joel Bitonio from Nevada. College tackle that comes in a shade under 6'4" and right around 302 lbs with 33" arms. He's probably a bit short/slight to play tackle, but has that nice kickslide you like in a pulling guard and plays with great leverage. He's also deceptively strong and has a nasty streak. That's the kind of conversion guy I think you'd like quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackInDaDay Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Yes, I'm not big on the "hide an inadequate tackle at guard" theory either. I am, however, a huge proponent of taking a college tackle, who if not for certain physical limitations (i.e. height, arm length, or some combination thereof) might otherwise play tackle in the NFL, and moving him to guard. I think guys like Levitre and Jahri Evans are great examples of that. My ideal conversion candidate this year is Joel Bitonio from Nevada. College tackle that comes in a shade under 6'4" and right around 302 lbs with 33" arms. He's probably a bit short/slight to play tackle, but has that nice kickslide you like in a pulling guard and plays with great leverage. He's also deceptively strong and has a nasty streak. That's the kind of conversion guy I think you'd like quite a bit. Ok.. I'm getting all that - and thanks for the info - but I like guards that play low and hard.. a lot of these ex-OTs never lose the desire to play high, including Levitre. now this actually may be more effective in an O that expects to pass 2 out of every 3 downs, but I'd like to see us with the personnel gives us more options in our run game. I look forward to picking your brain about the guys we bring to camp this summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpleman Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 My ideal conversion candidate this year is Joel Bitonio from Nevada. Thanks for the heads up, I will check his performance this weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Ok.. I'm getting all that - and thanks for the info - but I like guards that play low and hard.. a lot of these ex-OTs never lose the desire to play high, including Levitre. now this actually may be more effective in an O that expects to pass 2 out of every 3 downs, but I'd like to see us with the personnel gives us more options in our run game. I look forward to picking your brain about the guys we bring to camp this summer Xavier Su'a-Filo from UCLA is by far my favorite of the "brand" of player of which you speak. If you check out Draftbreakdown.com there's some video of him. He's probably going to go somewhere in the 25-35 range, so unless Buffalo trades he's probably not an option. You might also like Gabe Jackson from Miss St--he's more of a mauler though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 I would go to the mid-20s for sure, especially if it meant getting another second rounder. That said, if I were GM, I would just have Kiko tell me what to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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