Big Turk Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 He is not good enough to put a team on his shoulders ala Peyton Manning or Tom Brady without a good running game. He makes some nice throws, but plays poorly for long stretches of games, telegraphing throws and throwing INT's when under duress. Yes, he might be one of the most clutch playoff performers ever. Yes, he won the super bowl and was super bowl MVP. In the playoffs, for whatever reason it seems like a switch flips for him, but during the regular season, the man just is not anywhere close to an elite QB, or even on the second level of QBs(Rivers, Romo, etc). He is an average to slightly below average QB during the regular season, much like we saw today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Flacco got hot down the stretch last year and brought Baltimore a Lombardi trophy. They had no choice but to pay him at that point, even though it was clear he was not at the elite level. They just had no choice. That's what happens with QBs, they get streaky and you can't afford to let them go if you think there is a chance the streak might continue. As a result, you see a fair amount of inflated QB contracts around the league (see: Fitzpatrick, Ryan). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 He is not good enough to put a team on his shoulders ala Peyton Manning or Tom Brady without a good running game. He makes some nice throws, but plays poorly for long stretches of games, telegraphing throws and throwing INT's when under duress. Yes, he might be one of the most clutch playoff performers ever. Yes, he won the super bowl and was super bowl MVP. In the playoffs, for whatever reason it seems like a switch flips for him, but during the regular season, the man just is not anywhere close to an elite QB, or even on the second level of QBs(Rivers, Romo, etc). He is an average to slightly below average QB during the regular season, much like we saw today. Isn't a clutch playoff ability huge for an elite QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Right.... Behold the expert. Only chink in the argument is a string of perpetual playoff births and a Lombardi. Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Why are you saying this like it's controversial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 Why are you saying this like it's controversial. Because I got into a spirited debate with several posters here and on the shoutbox when Flacco signed his huge deal that he was not an elite QB except in the playoffs and he would need a lot of help to actually get to the playoffs, much more than other elite QBs do... Right.... Behold the expert. Only chink in the argument is a string of perpetual playoff births and a Lombardi. Carry on. No expert, I've just watched him play enough during the regular season to be completely unimpressed. His perpetual playoff berths are due in large part to a good running game and that D...they will have a tough time making the playoffs this year if they can't figure out how to get Ray Rice going because Flacco isn't going to be able to do it without him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Because I got into a spirited debate with several posters here and on the shoutbox when Flacco signed his huge deal that he was not an elite QB except in the playoffs and he would need a lot of help to actually get to the playoffs, much more than other elite QBs do... No expert, I've just watched him play enough during the regular season to be completely unimpressed. His perpetual playoff berths are due in large part to a good running game and that D...they will have a tough time making the playoffs this year if they can't figure out how to get Ray Rice going because Flacco isn't going to be able to do it without him... Remember when Ravens fans wanted Flacco benched last year? And they got the OC fired? And then they won the Lombardi. Hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobesBLO13 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 He has got to be missing Boldin. Boldin was huge in the playoffs last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PO'14 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 He is good and got a few unlucky bounces today that got intercepted. But go ahead...Keep cheering for SJ13 the cancer of the team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 He has got to be missing Boldin. Boldin was huge in the playoffs last year. And mediocre the other 16 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) Flacco got hot down the stretch last year and brought Baltimore a Lombardi trophy. They had no choice but to pay him at that point, even though it was clear he was not at the elite level. They just had no choice. That's what happens with QBs, they get streaky and you can't afford to let them go if you think there is a chance the streak might continue. As a result, you see a fair amount of inflated QB contracts around the league (see: Fitzpatrick, Ryan). The worse ones are like Kevin Kolb, who I believe has made close to 50M, without even having a winning record....I don't have any problem with Flacco getting the big contract. Also, yesterday, Flacco's WRs let him down by popping the ball up for the Bills defenders to get to them and Aaron williams making an unbelievable shoe-string tackle that saved four points - the difference between a win and a loss. He has got to be missing Boldin. Boldin was huge in the playoffs last year. +1. And that defense was porous yesterday. Edited September 30, 2013 by ganesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDBUFFCUSEFAN Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 He is good and got a few unlucky bounces today that got intercepted. But go ahead...Keep cheering for SJ13 the cancer of the team! Haha I like how you make every thread a Stevie thread you worthless troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlamnSam Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 He is not good enough to put a team on his shoulders ala Peyton Manning or Tom Brady without a good running game. He makes some nice throws, but plays poorly for long stretches of games, telegraphing throws and throwing INT's when under duress. Yes, he might be one of the most clutch playoff performers ever. Yes, he won the super bowl and was super bowl MVP. In the playoffs, for whatever reason it seems like a switch flips for him, but during the regular season, the man just is not anywhere close to an elite QB, or even on the second level of QBs(Rivers, Romo, etc). He is an average to slightly below average QB during the regular season, much like we saw today. He has won a super bowl, and by the way EJ looked today and the past few games, he cant carry a team anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 RE: Flacco = you and a million others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I wouldn't want my team to have to pay Flacco like the best QB in the league when he needs an outstanding D just to get into the playoffs. If I'm hamstringing the rest of my team that QB better be able to put the team on his back and win games like a Manning, Brady or Rogers. Flacco's a good QB but for that cash he has to be great and he's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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