YoloinOhio Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2013/9/26/4772898/bills-vs-ravens-2013-ej-manuel-vs-eight-man-pressure-fronts Bottom line - Ravens D coordinator not as schematically exotic as Rex, but won't need to be because of talent level on Baltimore front 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 This is going to be a familiar refrain from what I said last week: Hackett needs to help EJ out early on by establishing a short, quick-hit passing game. Focus on slants to Stevie and Woods and flat routes to CJ, Freddie, ScoChan, and TJ. Widen those pass rushing LBs and deepen the interior, then hit 'em with the run game. Just like we DIDN'T do last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 26, 2013 Author Share Posted September 26, 2013 I was listening to Mike & Mike this morning and Greeny mentioned (huge Jets fan, watched whole game) that the Bills offense seemed completely overwhelmed by te Jets defense. He wondered whether the Jets D was really that good or if it was the Bills O that couldn't adapt/execute. He mentioned how the Bills D gave the O a short field multiple times and they could only manage FGs, which he thought was the difference in the game. Golic said he felt the Jets D really was that good but that he also attributed it to inconsistency from the Bills from an experience standpoint, that you will see that fron a young team. Perhaps the experience last week will help Marrone with this week's game plan. I cant imagine they will do the same things the tried last week that did not work. However, the execution of the O line will be what tells the tale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Expecting another tough game... the offense needs to possess the damn ball and burn some clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 26, 2013 Author Share Posted September 26, 2013 and a defensive score. Not out of the question, Flacco is usually good for a pick-6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Braedenstearns Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 This is going to be a familiar refrain from what I said last week: Hackett needs to help EJ out early on by establishing a short, quick-hit passing game. Focus on slants to Stevie and Woods and flat routes to CJ, Freddie, ScoChan, and TJ. Widen those pass rushing LBs and deepen the interior, then hit 'em with the run game. Just like we DIDN'T do last week. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcre Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I'm not sure why so many people think the Ravens defense is all that. They were great several years ago and they've held onto that label. I'm not saying we will win or make their defense look bad, but if their defense shuts us down, it's more on our offense than the Raven's defense. They have some good players, but they shouldn't be feared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 26, 2013 Author Share Posted September 26, 2013 I'm not sure why so many people think the Ravens defense is all that. They were great several years ago and they've held onto that label. I'm not saying we will win or make their defense look bad, but if their defense shuts us down, it's more on our offense than the Raven's defense. They have some good players, but they shouldn't be feared. Not sure if Dumerville-Suggs-Ngata are past their prime at all, but those are 3 big names coming right at EJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 (edited) we need the Bills rcvrs to be able to break free so we don't see 4 more coverage sacks. Edited September 26, 2013 by BillsFan-4-Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I'm not sure why so many people think the Ravens defense is all that. They were great several years ago and they've held onto that label. I'm not saying we will win or make their defense look bad, but if their defense shuts us down, it's more on our offense than the Raven's defense. They have some good players, but they shouldn't be feared. They had a bad week 1, but have been great the past 2 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcre Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 They had a bad week 1, but have been great the past 2 weeks. I'm not really talking just this year. It's been a trend for a few years. They had that historically good defense many years ago and it seems people outside of Baltimore still think of them in that light. Again, I'm not saying they are bad, but they are far from scary. Their secondary is average. They have some nice pieces in the front seven, but they are not fearsome. Like I said, if they light it up against us Sunday, it's more on the Bills than the Ravens. Our OL looks pretty bad lately. We have a rookie QB who looked lost last week. Here in Baltimore, there's been lots of complaints about the defense the last few years. Again, this defense isn't that defense of a decade ago. It's not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 we need the Bills rcvrs to be able to break free so we don't see 4 more coverage sacks. Bills have one guy we all know can beat Press, but he's got a gimpy hammy, who knows how marginalizing it will be. In any case, Someone else is going to need to step up.... I doubt it will be graham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 (edited) Not sure if Dumerville-Suggs-Ngata are past their prime at all, but those are 3 big names coming right at EJ. Will be another good learning experience for Marrone/Hackett/EJ that will benefit them down the road. Always better to play against teams/coaches who are better/more seasoned than you b/c you learn more competing against them. You also lose the game, but for a full restart rebuilding team currently fielding an Arena League secondary in a pass-first league that is besides the point. Edited September 26, 2013 by 8and8Forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I'm not sure why so many people think the Ravens defense is all that. They were great several years ago and they've held onto that label. I'm not saying we will win or make their defense look bad, but if their defense shuts us down, it's more on our offense than the Raven's defense. They have some good players, but they shouldn't be feared. Plus we almost beat a much better Ravens D with a non-worldbeater QB a couple years ago, well into an 0-8 start... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Screens, misdirections and boots would go a long way towards helping the O gain yards and points Sunday...you know the stuff we should have done against the Jets Also in 3 games against some pretty impressive rushers, Cordy Glenn has allowed no sacks and only a single pressure which happened last week, according to PFF... Dude is turning into a stud LT... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meark Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Can we please mix in some screen plays?? We were one of the best screen teams last year and this year nothing.. Get Spiller in space please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-E-T-S-L-O-L Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Plus we almost beat a much better Ravens D with a non-worldbeater QB a couple years ago, well into an 0-8 start... That was the worst game the Ravens defense had all season. Not even Brees, Brady, Ryan or Schaub put up numbers like Fitzpatrick. Not really indicative of how good or bad, their defense was that year. The Bills put up close to 200 yards more then the Ravens allowed on average. No team is fairly measured by their best or worst game. I'm not really talking just this year. It's been a trend for a few years. They had that historically good defense many years ago and it seems people outside of Baltimore still think of them in that light. 2011, the defense was 3rd in points, and 3rd in yards. Suggs was league DPOY and Ngata was also a top candidate. That was the year before last. Not exactly ancient history. Last years defense was average, which is why they basicly cleaned house. They still need some time to gel this year, with all the new pieces. But against Cleveland and Houston, there was no glearing weaknesses, although the front 7 is clearly ahead of the secondary. I certainly think the Ravens defense is more talented then the Jets. But that was an away game and this is a home game, and the Ravens are kinda schitzophrenic, so who knows what will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Last time we played the Ravens, Kyle Williams was in the backfield all day. I think our D could pose some problems for them. What I'd like to see more than anything though is some execution on the part of the offense. Sustain some drives and get into the endzone. We do that and this game is suddenly winnable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhode Island Red Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 (edited) Can we please mix in some screen plays?? We were one of the best screen teams last year and this year nothing.. Get Spiller in space please. Seriously, if there was one play that Captain Chan clearly excelled at conceptualizing, it was the screen. No matter the announcer last year, they all couldn't rave enough about the design and execution of the screens, from QB to OL to RB... and even the WRs blocking. Spiller yes, good in space, and did well with the screens. FredEx I would argue was even better, with his magical slide around his OLinemen executing blocks, and his sixth sense of where the tacklers are... I have not catalogued our offensive plays this year, so I might have missed something, but I can tell you absolutely for sure that I personally have not seen one screen play attempted yet. Maybe Fred and CJ can draw one up from memory for Hackett? Edited September 27, 2013 by Rhode Island Red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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