Keukasmallies Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 US business leaders are showing their business acumen as they take advantage of the opportunity to slash health care costs by moving full time employees to part time and urging them to "take advantage of" ObamaCare. http://news.investors.com/091213-670865-obamacare-exchanges-will-insure-trader-joes-part-timers.htm?ven=googlepicks&src=aurlafw&google_editors_picks=true Good thing POTUS is razor sharp in terms of his foreign policy because he apparently "ain't got no" domestic policy savvy. Oh wait, he's a dunce in the foreign policy field also. Nevertheless, he's smooth on Leno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 So small businesses are really shedding costs here and should be better for it. How is this bad for small businesses again? I didn't realize that Obamacare was really such a small business friendly plan. Not sure what "investors.com" is angry about. Obama is helping the backbone our our economy and setting them free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keukasmallies Posted September 14, 2013 Author Share Posted September 14, 2013 The other side of the coin, the one you refuse to see, is that I'll be paying for an ever increasing number of insurees--many more than was first estimated. This just in: I'm not interested in supporting any more people!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 The other side of the coin, the one you refuse to see, is that I'll be paying for an ever increasing number of insurees--many more than was first estimated. This just in: I'm not interested in supporting any more people!!! Hey I understand you guys don't want people to be able to see a doctor, get health care or even to be well, but this is great for small businesses. Obama is the small business president! And the economic benefits to the country will far out weigh the temporary shift to a new system which will lower costs like it did here in NY----Win Win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Hey I understand you guys don't want people to be able to see a doctor, get health care or even to be well, but this is great for small businesses. Obama is the small business president! And the economic benefits to the country will far out weigh the temporary shift to a new system which will lower costs like it did here in NY----Win Win But they won't be able to see a doctor because they won't have insurance because they will be working part time. So the number of people without insurance could likely climb. And not only that they will be making less so there will be less money flowing to the economy. This is what happens when you cram something like this through without floating any trial balloons. Well they passed it and we're finding out what's in it alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 But they won't be able to see a doctor because they won't have insurance because they will be working part time. So the number of people without insurance could likely climb. And not only that they will be making less so there will be less money flowing to the economy. This is what happens when you cram something like this through without floating any trial balloons. Well they passed it and we're finding out what's in it alright. Ya, and its raining cats and dogs too, right? Go jump in a lake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Ya, and its raining cats and dogs too, right? Go jump in a lake So putting vast amounts of people on part time is a good thing? Our company is in an industry that has very high turnover. We offer health insurance (which we pay for) after six months. That is our choice and it is a business expense that we have created. Now we are forced to pay for it after only three months. So now because of that we will probably hire less people and still end up with less profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 So putting vast amounts of people on part time is a good thing? Our company is in an industry that has very high turnover. We offer health insurance (which we pay for) after six months. That is our choice and it is a business expense that we have created. Now we are forced to pay for it after only three months. So now because of that we will probably hire less people and still end up with less profit. Vast amounts? How many? Tell me how many and then tell me how many more people will be hired full time because the law allows so many small businesses to hire more workers since they no longer have to provide health insurance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Vast amounts? How many? Tell me how many and then tell me how many more people will be hired full time because the law allows so many small businesses to hire more workers since they no longer have to provide health insurance How many? I don't know, more than one? So you're saying that companies will all of a sudden hire more people because they no long have to pay health insurance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keukasmallies Posted September 14, 2013 Author Share Posted September 14, 2013 (edited) g'man, let me simplify this issue from my perspective: I don't want my tax $'s paying for some made up need for insurance just to mollify those who expect Washington to deliver "the bacon" since "they" either voted for, or delivered the vote for, BHO. Crude, insensitive, short-sighted...probably all of those, but something tells me I'm not the only one tired of all take and no give. Edited September 14, 2013 by Keukasmallies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 How many? I don't know, more than one? So you're saying that companies will all of a sudden hire more people because they no long have to pay health insurance? Are you saying businesses have more money isn't a good thing? And you actually try to pass yourself off as someone that knows something? g'man, let me simplify this issue from my perspective: I don't want my tax $'s paying for some made up need for insurance just to mollify those who expect Washington to deliver "the bacon" since "they" either voted for, or delivered the vote for, BHO. Crude, insensitive, short-sighted...probably all of those, but something tells me I'm not the only one tired of all take and no give. Go live in some libertarian country then where there is no health care, no schools no anything. Can't believe Conservatives have not tried to found a dumbfukastan somewhere with a minimalist government of no sewers or roads. Come on guys, lets get to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 (edited) B.O. is just trying to keep the little man and woman down. He wipes his azz with their concerns. Everything he does is to keep them in poverty. The more the ranks of the poor swell, the deeper is his laugh. He despises the common person. His war on women is legendary. He gives lip service to the poor and the working middle class while gassing up Air Force One to jet in the highest style to distant locations to press the palms of the fabulously wealthy and squeeze them for cash donations. He ***** on the working class every chance he gets. He's one high class mulatto. Edited September 14, 2013 by Nanker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 So small businesses are really shedding costs here and should be better for it. How is this bad for small businesses again? I didn't realize that Obamacare was really such a small business friendly plan. Not sure what "investors.com" is angry about. Obama is helping the backbone our our economy and setting them free. You're obviously trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keukasmallies Posted September 14, 2013 Author Share Posted September 14, 2013 (edited) Go live in some libertarian country then where there is no health care, no schools no anything. Can't believe Conservatives have not tried to found a dumbfukastan somewhere with a minimalist government of no sewers or roads. Come on guys, lets get to it! Excellent comeback! You must have forgotten the "I can pizz farther than you can" response, eh? One need not be a libertarian to get tired of financing a rainbow continuum of services and supports for those who appear waiting for someone else to carry the load. Edited September 14, 2013 by Keukasmallies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Are you saying businesses have more money isn't a good thing? And you actually try to pass yourself off as someone that knows something? Go live in some libertarian country then where there is no health care, no schools no anything. Can't believe Conservatives have not tried to found a dumbfukastan somewhere with a minimalist government of no sewers or roads. Come on guys, lets get to it! I agree with Tom you're just trolling now because if this is really how your tiny brain thinks I'm really surprised you're able to turn on your computer to come here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I agree with Tom you're just trolling now because if this is really how your tiny brain thinks I'm really surprised you're able to turn on your computer to come here. He doesn't have to know how to turn a computer on. He has a robot that does it for him. And then it serves him a beer before flying an unmanned combat mission Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigfatbillsfan Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 But they won't be able to see a doctor because they won't have insurance because they will be working part time. So the number of people without insurance could likely climb. And not only that they will be making less so there will be less money flowing to the economy. This is what happens when you cram something like this through without floating any trial balloons. Well they passed it and we're finding out what's in it alright. If this leads to a single payer system all the better. Because that's what this abortion of a bill should have been. A single payer plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 If this leads to a single payer system all the better. Because that's what this abortion of a bill should have been. A single payer plan. THIS is what I've been talking about. What one thinks our health care system SHOULD be is completely irrelevent to the fact that the ACA is a complete load of ****. (And I threw you a bone here, so you can have another "gotcha" moment with me and feel special again.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 If this leads to a single payer system all the better. Because that's what this abortion of a bill should have been. A single payer plan. Yep single payer is great. http://www.ottawacitizen.com/health/private+imaging+scans+urged+Alberta/8852692/story.html http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2013/09/14/george-jonas-the-one-tier-medical-mantra-your-body-belongs-to-the-swarm/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 The other side of the coin, the one you refuse to see, is that I'll be paying for an ever increasing number of insurees--many more than was first estimated. This just in: I'm not interested in supporting any more people!!! You're a proud American! Thank You! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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