26CornerBlitz Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 @Andre_Reed83 Quitting has never been in my vocab...#justsayin #Dadtaughtme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 If anyone voting for the HOF doesn't know who Andre Reed is, they really shouldn't be voting. You think if Reed got himself on Dancing With the Stars he would get into the football HOF? No but the ongoing networking and personal relationships likely doesn't hurt the guys that are on set and fresh in minds. Instead of that tweet, cris carter would be all over espn defending himself, and I don't think any of his current colleagues would say it in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 So now we wait for the cut down to 15. If I were voting the 15 finalists would be: Andre Reed Marvin Harrison Tim Brown Paul Tagliabue Aeneas Williams Charles Haley Derrick Brooks Steve Atwater John Lynch Eddie DeBartolo Jr. Walter Jones Will Shields Tony Dungy Don Coryell Joe Jacoby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 If anyone voting for the HOF doesn't know who Andre Reed is, they really shouldn't be voting. You think if Reed got himself on Dancing With the Stars he would get into the football HOF? its the Hall of Fame. Not the Hall of Stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 @Andre_Reed83 Quitting has never been in my vocab...#justsayin #Dadtaughtme Andre defends his work ethic Bills Wall of Famer and once again semifinalist for the Pro Football Hall of Fame, Andre Reed, had to take to Twitter to defend himself when national NFL reporter Michael Silver accused Reed of quitting in the 1995 AFC playoff game against Pittsburgh. Silver made the accusation on Wednesday night’s Hall of Fame show on NFL Network when the list of primary nominees was reduced to 25 semifinalists. Reed is one of them again. He cited an Orlando Sentinel story as the means for his position, despite the fact that in the story, then head coach Marv Levy effectively explains how any thoughts about Reed letting them down quickly evaporated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Several Bills/former Bills on the list... http://www.profootba...rn-era-nominees I think Reed will get in. There has been a fair amount of lobbying for him and I think he will sneak in. Ted Washington almost certainly doesn't get it, but he was a more impactful player than Cortez Kennedy IMO. In 1997 he was about as dominant as a lineman can possibly be. Didn't get his due until he signed with Chicago after Donahoe cut him and the Pats don't win that SB without him. He was an immovable force in the middle for a decade straight. I am a 'Canes fan and I have no idea how Kennedy made it to the HOF. He basically mailed in the last half of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 I am on the border with Andre Reed getting in, but to question his heart is ridiculous. He was one of the bravest big time receivers going over the middle that I have ever seen, and that is the biggest reason why he should be considered for the HoF. His stats are a fraction less than some other guys, but the catches he made were often right across the middle, in the most dangerous area on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 I think Reed will get in. There has been a fair amount of lobbying for him and I think he will sneak in. Ted Washington almost certainly doesn't get it, but he was a more impactful player than Cortez Kennedy IMO. In 1997 he was about as dominant as a lineman can possibly be. Didn't get his due until he signed with Chicago after Donahoe cut him and the Pats don't win that SB without him. He was an immovable force in the middle for a decade straight. I am a 'Canes fan and I have no idea how Kennedy made it to the HOF. He basically mailed in the last half of his career. Yeah I never understood how Kennedy made it. You could also say the same thing about Warren Sapp. He was a dominant force for Tampa Bay, but when he got to Oakland, he was not the same player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Trung Canidate was finally nominated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilsner Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Trung Canidate was finally nominated? You beat me to it SJBF. I was going to say why does he tease Trung so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Trung Canidate was finally nominated? Great minds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 I would vote for Andre, Haley, W. Jones, and D. Brooks, maybe Terrell as well. Twist my arm, & I would consider Harrison, DeBartolo, and (holding my nose) Jimmah. Dungy is a PC 1st-ballot lock (see: Warren Moon). Now that Cris Carter is in, Jerome Bettis takes over as my most cringe-worthy candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 I would vote for Andre, Haley, W. Jones, and D. Brooks, maybe Terrell as well. Twist my arm, & I would consider Harrison, DeBartolo, and (holding my nose) Jimmah. Dungy is a PC 1st-ballot lock (see: Warren Moon). Now that Cris Carter is in, Jerome Bettis takes over as my most cringe-worthy candidate. Me too. Bettis will get in the HOF, even though he has no business being in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Me too. Bettis will get in the HOF, even though he has no business being in it. Why? 13 year career 8 1000 yard seasons 94 TDs 6 pro-bowls 2 all-pro 6th all time rushing yards 1993 Rookie of the year 1996 Comeback player of the year 2001 WP Man of the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsLikeBuffalo Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 It would be cringe-worthy if Bettis didn't get into the HOF...most likely not this year tho I fear Reed's time to finally get the nod into Canton may have passed..if it didn't happen between 2007-2010 I don't see it happening now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 It would be cringe-worthy if Bettis didn't get into the HOF...most likely not this year tho I fear Reed's time to finally get the nod into Canton may have passed..if it didn't happen between 2007-2010 I don't see it happening now.. I can't understand how Curtis Martin got in before Andre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 (edited) I can't understand how Curtis Martin got in before Andre. Stats. 10 x 1000 yard seasons in a row.......4th most rushing yardage all time. Too much emphasis on stats and not enough on the player's ability(impact). Edited November 24, 2013 by Dibs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 (edited) Stats. 10 x 1000 yard seasons in a row.......4th most rushing yardage all time. Too much emphasis on stats and not enough on the player's ability(impact). In the 16 game season era, the 1000 yard season = 62.5 yards/game........ BFD Edited November 24, 2013 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 In the 16 game season era, the 1000 yard season = 62.5 yards/game........ BFD I agree......but his stats were obviously the reason he got in. The whole stats thing is why I am doubtful that Reed will ever get in. As time goes on, the memory of just how good he was will progressively fade and the modern era WR stats will dwarf his. I hope I'm wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I agree......but his stats were obviously the reason he got in. The whole stats thing is why I am doubtful that Reed will ever get in. As time goes on, the memory of just how good he was will progressively fade and the modern era WR stats will dwarf his. I hope I'm wrong though. Can't argue any of your points. However, it's not fair to compare WR stats from Andre's era with those that came after with the benefit of rule changes that promoted the out of whack passing game statistics. In any event. not any easy task for the HOF voters with many worthy candidates and so few getting in each year by rule. @ProFootballHOF Try your hand at being a HOF selector and make the cut from 25 semifinalists to 15 finalists: http://www.nfl.com/hofvote #PFHOF14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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