26CornerBlitz Posted August 24, 2013 Author Share Posted August 24, 2013 In a related matter NFL concussion lawsuits back in court next month: http://www.hubarkush.com/2013/08/23/nfl-concussion-lawsuits-back-in-court-next-month/a24hcaa/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sports/concussion-watch/coming-soon-on-frontline-league-of-denial/ Airing October 8th will be a PBS Frontline episode called "League of Denial." I know all of us on the board have questioned new rules and calls meant to protect players. It seems appropriate to me for fans to open a dialogue about the issue and to look at whether our views change once we see the PBS Frontline report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 I will be interesting to see what they were able to dig up. But whenever I see "Drawing on the forthcoming book" you have to be wary of them trying to hype the book and the facts be dammed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 I will be interesting to see what they were able to dig up. But whenever I see "Drawing on the forthcoming book" you have to be wary of them trying to hype the book and the facts be dammed. Understand your point but not like they are breaking the story. If anything it is a bit surprising that other outlets have not picked up the story and dug a bit harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corp000085 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Understand your point but not like they are breaking the story. If anything it is a bit surprising that other outlets have not picked up the story and dug a bit harder. Because the 3 networks and espn have their hand in the pot with tv contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowery4 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Man, that picture of Junior with his face down in the grass (at the bottom with an article or video linked) Just makes me sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Man, that picture of Junior with his face down in the grass (at the bottom with an article or video linked) Just makes me sad. Also with him you could question the impact of PED's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 http://www.pbs.org/w...ague-of-denial/ Airing October 8th will be a PBS Frontline episode called "League of Denial." I know all of us on the board have questioned new rules and calls meant to protect players. It seems appropriate to me for fans to open a dialogue about the issue and to look at whether our views change once we see the PBS Frontline report. please remind me/us of this come time . Thanks for the posting . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Number 76 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 (edited) I think any league serious about reducing injury would start by expanding game-day rosters, thus allowing for more rotations in and out of the game and less wear and tear. Not necessarily concussions, but other injuries. Edited August 25, 2013 by Offsides Number 76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 (edited) I think any league serious about reducing injury would start by expanding game-day rosters, thus allowing for more rotations in and out of the game and less wear and tear. Not necessarily concussions, but other injuries. Half of the players don't see the field now except for special treams. I don't see how a bigger roster would be an incentive for coaches not to put their best players on the field. Football by it's nature is a violent sport. When it first started players were a lot smaller and did not have the training methods,. nutruition experts, and yes the drugs to make them into the beasts that play the game today. Hell, high schools now have all of that and are turning out very big strong and fast players. Unfortunately the brain hitting the skull happens more and more due to those other advances and there isn't anything, in my opinion, that can be done with equipment to prevent that. Edited August 25, 2013 by CodeMonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 (edited) Because the 3 networks and espn have their hand in the pot with tv contracts. pbs is the best network on tv for precisely this reason, imo. i suppose they're beholden to the federal gov't since they have historically paid some of the bills but not so much anymore. i'll be watching this one as i watch most "frontline" episodes. but it's not like the fans or the players don't realize that they're 21st century gladiators. Edited August 25, 2013 by birdog1960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 The NYT ran a big piece on this recently in which they discussed how ESPN at the 11th hour pulled out of co-producing this, even though it's based on the reporting of two of their reporters. As per anonymous ESPN employees in the documentary/news group, this was because of pressure from the NFL on ESPN to not participate in something critical of the League on this issue. Way to put player safety first, guys..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 25, 2013 Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 The NYT ran a big piece on this recently in which they discussed how ESPN at the 11th hour pulled out of co-producing this, even though it's based on the reporting of two of their reporters. As per anonymous ESPN employees in the documentary/news group, this was because of pressure from the NFL on ESPN to not participate in something critical of the League on this issue. Way to put player safety first, guys..... As discussed here--------> http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/160671-espn-backs-out-of-nfl-concussion-study-collaboration-with-pbs/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 25, 2013 Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 @kairyssdal “@richarddeitsch: The ESPN ombudsman weighs in on the Frontline-ESPN breakup. http://espn.go.com/blog/ombudsman/post/_/id/96/was-espn-sloppy-naive-or-compromised … ” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 So much for journalistic integrity. Would love to hear JW's opinion on this matter. Journalistic integrity. Haha, that's a good one. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Yes, this is going to be the NFL's version of the tobacco industry scandal way back. It sounds as though they have suppressed information for decades and only started worrying about the safety issue in recent years, when the old timers started speaking out. Can't remember all the details so much now (I too played football! ), but HBO's "Inside Sports" did a pretty damning piece about this, about 5 years ago, when the noise on this issue started to get considerably louder. I feel selfish, because I love football, and I confess, the toughness of it appeals to me...and I find myself bemoaning the "softness" of today's game from time to time, when I let my guard down. But I don't think there is much denying that horrible repercussions that come with the sport for so many. I would venture to guess that the ill effects of those head traumas last much longer with more guys (not to mention all the other types of injuries) than the "millions" that they make over their short careers. Excellent post, as are many on this thread. With such huge economic, cultural and social interests in this country tied to football--including myself!!--- I doubt much will change anytime soon with the game. I can't imagine any changes that could seriously reduce these injuries and keep the same game, but there is no way football is going away anytime soon, head injuries or no head injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 26, 2013 Author Share Posted August 26, 2013 Did The NFL Put Pressure On ESPN To Divorce Frontline?: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/news/20130825/media-circus-espn-nfl-frontline/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 I'm inclined to agree. That in combination with the speed of the game increasing over the course of time. Take the facemask off of the helmet, and you solve 95% of the problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 2, 2013 Author Share Posted October 2, 2013 (edited) League of Denial: The NFL’s Concussion Crisis: http://www.pbs.org/w...ague-of-denial/ This PBS Frontline Special is airing on October 8th. Check your local listings: http://www.pbs.org/w...local-schedule/ Book: NFL crusaded against science: http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/9745797/new-book-league-denial-says-nfl-used-resources-power-two-decades-deny-football-link-brain-damage Edited October 2, 2013 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 9, 2013 Author Share Posted October 9, 2013 League of Denial: The NFL’s Concussion Crisis: http://www.pbs.org/w...ague-of-denial/ This PBS Frontline Special is airing on October 8th. Check your local listings: http://www.pbs.org/w...local-schedule/ Book: NFL crusaded against science: http://espn.go.com/e...nk-brain-damage Reminder....Check your local listings tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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