MarkKelso'sHelmet Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 (edited) It certainly seems that way... if you can navigate beyond the silly pay wall, here's the link.... This could be an interesting topic to discuss. It's good that we're finally on the other end of one of these situations http://blogs.buffalo...ml?ref=bcr#more Sounds like a loser's mentality -- That tampa 2, dungy, dick jauron approach -- don't be aggressive, don't play to win, don't get hurt and try not to lose. I'm glad our coaches played aggressive. It's football -- play football. Maybe Frazier is still upset the Bills passed him by for Gailey... But your offense got smacked around and looked inept, Frazier. If you don't like it, play better... Such a difference from Irsay's response to last week, for example... who pointed the blame for the loss at his own coaches. Frazier does the opposite! Edited August 17, 2013 by MarkKelso'sHelmet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 There's been some back and forth on this topic. I'm not sure what's truly customary. John harbaugh was livid with Sean Payton a few years ago for not doing any type of joint game planning during the preseason and actually bringing the house on defense. He implied the coaches often call ahead of time and make some pregame arrangements. Would make sense as a way to test guys in certain situations or against certain looks. Seems some prefer the games to be scrimmages, some prefer them to be games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Passblocking is passbloblocking whether the other team's defense blitzes or not. If your scheme is to generate pressure with blitzes and you have all new coaches/personnel how else do you evaluate them??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Passblocking is passbloblocking whether the other team's defense blitzes or not. If your scheme is to generate pressure with blitzes and you have all new coaches/personnel how else do you evaluate them??? I think that speaks directly to my post above - it seems some coaches like to game plan together in the preseason. Come up with situations they'd like to see and not like to see and give a little warning of what to expect with vanilla vs complex It also seems others stay away from this approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 There's been some back and forth on this topic. I'm not sure what's truly customary. John harbaugh was livid with Sean Payton a few years ago for not doing any type of joint game planning during the preseason and actually bringing the house on defense. He implied the coaches often call ahead of time and make some pregame arrangements. Would make sense as a way to test guys in certain situations or against certain looks. Seems some prefer the games to be scrimmages, some prefer them to be games. im with you Saint. Sounds more than anything like the Bills/Marrine aren't calling ahead to play these things. Good for then. Glad they aren't. Marrone has the demeanor that its us against the league and we need to take the respect since nobody is going to give it to us. A true warrior. I love Marrone more and more each day/game/practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurmal34 Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Dude, he said "Everybody has they way of approaching the preseason". Buh bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Of also like to add this: IF.... Big IF... We didnt really gameplay for the Vikings and were just playing aggressive and blitzing alot. I can't wait to see what we do to Brady in week 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkKelso'sHelmet Posted August 17, 2013 Author Share Posted August 17, 2013 Dude, he said "Everybody has they way of approaching the preseason". Buh bye. It's a typo. And to suggest that Frasier is some moron from the street whose opinion doesn't deserve your attention is ignorant. He's well respected around the league... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 (edited) Those are some really weak comments by Frazier basically saying he didn't gameplan so neither should the team they are playing I actually was surprised how bills kept blitzing the colts last week but even if Vikings didn't gameplan they should hv known it was coming which makes his comments that much more pathetic Edited August 17, 2013 by Max997 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microscopes Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Love it. Happy to be the aggressors for once. Preseason or not. We've been the lambs for too long. It's our time to be the lion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Maybe Frazier is still upset the Bills passed him by for Gailey. I don't think that's how it happened as i think he backed out from interview when he thought he was only being interviewed for the Rooney rule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Monkeyhead Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 So apparently he heard nothing about the game against Indy Sunday. He knew what they'd bring. And you better expect aggression at your host's first home ps game. Come on Lesley. Just admit. Your o-line did not play well enough to protect your starting QB. A huge part of their preparation should have been devoted to keeping QB1 safe. Also, a team with a historically crappy D that's bringing a new, ATTACKING, BLITZING philosophy....(that SOMEONE in his organization might have heard through the media)....is going to need to test drive that new car in preseason before they play their biggest division rival in wk 1. Hey Leslie....."c'mon man!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWinzChampionshipz Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 These comments coming from a guy who scored a touchdown with over 4 minutes remaining to make the score 20-16 Bills and instead of going for an extra point to make the game a 3 point difference, decides to go for 2. I understand you don't want to go to overtime in preseason but come on. He clearly was trying to win. The Bills were trying to win also and we did. Wound licking dudes man. I'm liking this winning feeling preseason or not. What better way to prepare our rookies how to win than in preaseason? Bills win. End of story... (drops mic on the floor and leaves) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 It certainly seems that way... if you can navigate beyond the silly pay wall, here's the link.... This could be an interesting topic to discuss. It's good that we're finally on the other end of one of these situations http://blogs.buffalo...ml?ref=bcr#more Sounds like a loser's mentality -- That tampa 2, dungy, dick jauron approach -- don't be aggressive, don't play to win, don't get hurt and try not to lose. I'm glad our coaches played aggressive. It's football -- play football. Maybe Frazier is still upset the Bills passed him by for Gailey... But your offense got smacked around and looked inept, Frazier. If you don't like it, play better... Such a difference from Irsay's response to last week, for example... who pointed the blame for the loss at his own coaches. Frazier does the opposite! Game planning :lol: that's called the Bills Defense, a lot of teams are gona get Buffaloed this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Of also like to add this: IF.... Big IF... We didnt really gameplay for the Vikings and were just playing aggressive and blitzing alot. I can't wait to see what we do to Brady in week 1. I'm excited about this D but week 1 has me worried. Brady eats aggressive, blitzing defenses for breakfast and belches up TDs at the end of his meal. Disguising where the rush is coming from is good but I'm not sure sending 5-7 guys is against him 70% of the time is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Really, Frazier?? So the Bills are bullies? I'm good with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Good for Marrone. He needs to send a message to the fans. This is not the passive Bills defense of the past few years. This is a wild blitzing defense that will be exciting to watch. He needs to build up interest. He needs to make people want to come to the games. He's doing that pretty well. I also like the way Marrone gets mad on the sidelines. Must be a lineman's mentallity. He almost reminds me of Carl Mauck from a few years ago. And that's a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willyville Guy Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 One of the first things Marrone said when he got here was that the Bills do not share information -- they gather information. I don't think the new coach is in this league to make new friends. So far I'm fine with all of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Those are some really weak comments by Frazier basically saying he didn't gameplan so neither should the team they are playing I actually was surprised how bills kept blitzing the colts last week but even if Vikings didn't gameplan they should hv known it was coming which makes his comments that much more pathetic Screw the other side. We have new players putting in a new scheme with new coaches and it needs to practiced live before the games really count. That is what the preseason is for. "Hiding" everything and then hoping it works week 1 is for teams with established coaches and schemes (like the Vikings). Good for you coach. Take all the time you need and through everything you are putting in at the opposition in the meaningless public scrimmages. Plus the fans need to see the Bills come out of game with more points than the other guys as many times as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angryfan62 Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 I'm excited about this D but week 1 has me worried. Brady eats aggressive, blitzing defenses for breakfast and belches up TDs at the end of his meal. Disguising where the rush is coming from is good but I'm not sure sending 5-7 guys is against him 70% of the time is. That strategy was used against Brady with pretty good success by the Giants. He does "eat aggressive, blitzing D's for lunch"...As long as they don't actually get to him. Brady does not want to take a hit......Ever. Once you start knocking him down or getting in his face the "S" falls right off his chest, and he suddenly becomes pretty average. He gets rattled and starts rushing his throws and tossing incompletes and INT's. You know your doing it right when he starts sulking and screaming at his O Line. I'd be a bit more concerned about this when we face guys like Big Ben, he takes the pressure as a challenge and still tries to make plays even though he knows he's going to get hit, kinda like Farve used to back in the day. When we face the Pats I'd be most concerned about our run D, he'll try to pick up easy 1st downs on the ground against our blitzes if our linebackers are not sharp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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