ChanOverChin Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 I think most of us agree that the Bills could still use a little help with filling certain positions. They obviously have interest in ILB/OLB K. Dansby, who was the highest paid LB just a few years ago. With ILB Sheppard being traded to the Colts recently, I really think that the Bills want to fill his spot with a vet ILB like Dansby and what a nice addition that would be. But what kind of salary would Dansby be willing to settle for?? That's got to be the issue at this point. Here is a list of the premiere veteran free agents that are still available and looking to sign with an NFL team. Since the Bills appear to have a big need at CB as well, would they consider a wiley ol' veteran like C. Woodson?? He's probably better than most of the CBs that we have currently on the roster. Myself, I'd like to see us sign ILB Dansby, CB Woodson, and OG B. Moore. With those signings the Bills would be well equipped to challenge for the division title this year. ESPN's Jason La Confora gives his input on their posibble landing spots. With that in mind, here are nine free agents who are plenty worthy of a shot at a roster spot right now, and where they would make sense. DE John Abraham: He made his tour of visits, and he's been pretty firm with his asking price, but this still leaps out as a Bill Belichick move to me. He is always collecting veteran edge players who can add situational help, and the Pats are always in the hunt. Abraham used to play in this division and could be spelled some. Belichick will find a way to get him on the field at the key time. G Brandon Moore: He has been a longtime starter and consistent performer, and even though the Bears reached for interior lineman Kyle Long in the first round, it doesn't mean they don't need cover. Their line has long been a mess, and Long is a project who will need some mentoring. With Jay Cutler in his walk year, more investment in protecting him is necessary. RT Tyson Clabo: A stalwart for the Falcons, he got caught in a cap crunch. The Cowboys really like him and remain in contact with him and need to make this move. Get rid of Doug Free and his $7 million salary and give Clabo his $3.5 million-$4 million and call it an upgrade. I know Dallas is in a cap crunch, but after a questionable draft, upgrading some offensive line personnel now would be wise. And the Dolphins are now in on Clabo, too, hosting him for a visit starting Tuesday night. LT Bryant McKinnie: McKinnie never has managed to ingratiate himself with the Ravens -- and has been overweight, and erratic at times -- but he has played particularly well in the postseason. In fact, the Ravens don't win the Super Bowl, or maybe even make the playoffs, without him being reinserted at left tackle late in the season. The Ravens continue to talk to him, and frankly, they should give him a few million with some weight clauses and get this done. Baltimore is dabbling with moving guard Kelechi Osemele to left tackle, but that's not his natural fit. Miami and San Diego are also interested, and either could use him. RT Eric Winston: Has performed at a high level for awhile, but there are medical concerns and no one has been willing to pay him in that $3 million to $4 million range, either. But the Dolphins continue to monitor him. After all of their splashy moves and overpaying people in free agency, they might as well go get a tackle, since Jake Long departed. The thought here is Jonathan Martin moves to left tackle -- the Dolphins think he can pull it off -- and Winston stabilizes things on the right side. Of course, if Miami can get its main target -- Kansas City right tackle Branden Albert via trade -- then these signings would be moot. LB Karlos Dansby: He has been a tackling machine throughout his career, he brings strong leadership qualities with him and he undoubtedly will be motivated after the Dolphins let him go. He recently visited the Bills. While I understand Buffalo drafted linebacker Kiko Alonso, they could use reinforcements, and you can't tell me that their defensive roster is so robust and overflowing with talent that Dansby couldn't help. DL Richard Seymour: He still has something to offer, can help anchor the inside and rush off the edge. And he knows what it's like to be in a winning locker room ... as well as an inept one. He won't come cheaply, which is why he hasn't signed yet, but teams continue to monitor him. While I think he could offer a boost to a Pittsburgh front seven in transition, the Steelers don't have the cap space to pull it off. But what about the Colts? They still could use some depth there, are trying to add more bite on defense and haven't been shy at all about spending this offseason. OLB Dwight Freeney: I'm not sure he's more than a situational pass rusher at this stage, but in small doses still might be able to approach double-digit sack totals, and that's always in demand. Another player whose price tag has been seen as too steep. But I still don't know that he doesn't make sense in Denver, a team that is obviously in Super Bowl or bust mode. DB Charles Woodson: He may not have much to offer, but he's a total pro, has seen both sides of the NFL evolution process (going from looking like a disinterested potential bust to one of the most respected veterans in the game) and long ago realized that there won't be big money for him. He could make sense for the Ravens. Baltimore just lost Ray Lewis and Ed Reed. Having drafted safety Matt Elam, who is talented but could have attitude issues, and with young starting corner Jimmy Smith a character concern in the past as well, a steady, reliable old head like Woodson in a locker room lacking leaders might not be the worst investment the Ravens could make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 I'd be a very happy fan if the Bills were able to sign Dansby and Brandon Moore. That would solidify two position where we currently have big question marks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 There are actually a few good guards still out there aside from Moore: Antoine Caldwell - Houston LeRoy Harris - Tennessee Cooper Carlisle - Oakland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 I'd be a very happy fan if the Bills were able to sign Dansby and Brandon Moore. That would solidify two position where we currently have big question marks. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-scout Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Luis Vazquez? Chargers haven't resigned him Have they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Luis Vazquez? Chargers haven't resigned him Have they? He signed with Denver on day 2 or 3 of free agency back in March Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Wonder why someone hasnt signed Moore yet? CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainiac21 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Wonder why someone hasnt signed Moore yet? CBF well, he is one of the better Guards in the league, and reportedly wants to both be paid like one AND do it for a contender. teams probably figure he's old and should take less. if we can get him though, i'd take him... i don't know squat about those guards bandit mentioned. drats... no CB. i didn't think so either, but was hoping i missed someone. well, there's always Bradley Roby in the next draft. i'm ok with Alonso and Bradham playing inside, esp. since many times we will only have 1 ILB. sure, Dansby would be better for us this year, but I don't really care. We aren't going to the SuperBowl. will he still be better than our young guys next year? if we can get him on a very reasonable contract, fine... but i wouldn't go crazy over him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 actually (and I'm sure this will upset) I think the Bills will go the other way, trading some of our established players for draft picks in 2014 draft, Byrd, Stevie Johnson, and Kyle Williams are the most likely to be traded-so predictions Byrd to Green bay Stevie Johnson to Detroit Kyle Williams to Atlanta Aaron Williams and Duke Williams will be our starting safeties Woods, Rodgers, Goodwin, Gragg and Spiller will all be starters Manuel will be the starter after the 12th game after Kolb takes a beating and accumulates injuries and Jackson proves a JAG starting OLine- Glenn, Chris Scott, Wood, Urbik, Hairston 2014 draft Bills use accumulated draft picks to come out of the draft with jadeveon Clowney DE and Austin Seferian-Jenkins TE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 actually (and I'm sure this will upset) I think the Bills will go the other way, trading some of our established players for draft picks in 2014 draft, Byrd, Stevie Johnson, and Kyle Williams are the most likely to be traded-so predictions Byrd to Green bay Stevie Johnson to Detroit Kyle Williams to Atlanta Wow, this is weird. A friend of mine who has a strong connection to the FO of one of the NFL's top franchises said this to me a couple of weeks ago: "So you guys are trying to move, Williams, huh?" I thought he meant Aaron Williams but he said, no, Kyle Williams. I didn't post that rumor here as it sounded kind of nutty. But in the wake of the draft, as the type of defense Pettine seems to be shooting for rounds into shape, it no longer seems out of the question the Bills might try to move a player who's getting a bit old, seems to get hurt a little too often, and might be seen as maybe a little costly going forward. I honestly still don't think it's going to happen but it no longer seems out of the question. As to Stevie, I can't see them getting rid of him this year because that would leave them with TJ as the only receiver with NFL game experience, unless you think Brad Smith can fill Stevie's shoes. Now that would be nutty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 (edited) actually (and I'm sure this will upset) I think the Bills will go the other way, trading some of our established players for draft picks in 2014 draft, Byrd, Stevie Johnson, and Kyle Williams are the most likely to be traded-so predictions Byrd to Green bay Stevie Johnson to Detroit Kyle Williams to Atlanta Aaron Williams and Duke Williams will be our starting safeties Woods, Rodgers, Goodwin, Gragg and Spiller will all be starters Manuel will be the starter after the 12th game after Kolb takes a beating and accumulates injuries and Jackson proves a JAG starting OLine- Glenn, Chris Scott, Wood, Urbik, Hairston 2014 draft Bills use accumulated draft picks to come out of the draft with jadeveon Clowney DE and Austin Seferian-Jenkins TE to your point, i could see the bills trying to trade players that either don't fit the system, or haven't lived up to their potential. or just don't want to be a part of the bills' organization going forward. but i guess the point of my reply is, what the hell is a JAG? Edited May 1, 2013 by swnybillsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 to your point, i could see the bills trying to trade players that either don't fit the system, or haven't lived up to their potential. or just don't want to be a part of the bills' organization going forward. but i guess the point of my reply is, what the hell is a JAG? Nothing Special as in Just A Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny33 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 I think most of us agree that the Bills could still use a little help with filling certain positions. They obviously have interest in ILB/OLB K. Dansby, who was the highest paid LB just a few years ago. With ILB Sheppard being traded to the Colts recently, I really think that the Bills want to fill his spot with a vet ILB like Dansby and what a nice addition that would be. But what kind of salary would Dansby be willing to settle for?? That's got to be the issue at this point. Here is a list of the premiere veteran free agents that are still available and looking to sign with an NFL team. Since the Bills appear to have a big need at CB as well, would they consider a wiley ol' veteran like C. Woodson?? He's probably better than most of the CBs that we have currently on the roster. Myself, I'd like to see us sign ILB Dansby, CB Woodson, and OG B. Moore. With those signings the Bills would be well equipped to challenge for the division title this year. ESPN's Jason La Confora gives his input on their posibble landing spots. With that in mind, here are nine free agents who are plenty worthy of a shot at a roster spot right now, and where they would make sense. DE John Abraham: He made his tour of visits, and he's been pretty firm with his asking price, but this still leaps out as a Bill Belichick move to me. He is always collecting veteran edge players who can add situational help, and the Pats are always in the hunt. Abraham used to play in this division and could be spelled some. Belichick will find a way to get him on the field at the key time. G Brandon Moore: He has been a longtime starter and consistent performer, and even though the Bears reached for interior lineman Kyle Long in the first round, it doesn't mean they don't need cover. Their line has long been a mess, and Long is a project who will need some mentoring. With Jay Cutler in his walk year, more investment in protecting him is necessary. RT Tyson Clabo: A stalwart for the Falcons, he got caught in a cap crunch. The Cowboys really like him and remain in contact with him and need to make this move. Get rid of Doug Free and his $7 million salary and give Clabo his $3.5 million-$4 million and call it an upgrade. I know Dallas is in a cap crunch, but after a questionable draft, upgrading some offensive line personnel now would be wise. And the Dolphins are now in on Clabo, too, hosting him for a visit starting Tuesday night. LT Bryant McKinnie: McKinnie never has managed to ingratiate himself with the Ravens -- and has been overweight, and erratic at times -- but he has played particularly well in the postseason. In fact, the Ravens don't win the Super Bowl, or maybe even make the playoffs, without him being reinserted at left tackle late in the season. The Ravens continue to talk to him, and frankly, they should give him a few million with some weight clauses and get this done. Baltimore is dabbling with moving guard Kelechi Osemele to left tackle, but that's not his natural fit. Miami and San Diego are also interested, and either could use him. RT Eric Winston: Has performed at a high level for awhile, but there are medical concerns and no one has been willing to pay him in that $3 million to $4 million range, either. But the Dolphins continue to monitor him. After all of their splashy moves and overpaying people in free agency, they might as well go get a tackle, since Jake Long departed. The thought here is Jonathan Martin moves to left tackle -- the Dolphins think he can pull it off -- and Winston stabilizes things on the right side. Of course, if Miami can get its main target -- Kansas City right tackle Branden Albert via trade -- then these signings would be moot. LB Karlos Dansby: He has been a tackling machine throughout his career, he brings strong leadership qualities with him and he undoubtedly will be motivated after the Dolphins let him go. He recently visited the Bills. While I understand Buffalo drafted linebacker Kiko Alonso, they could use reinforcements, and you can't tell me that their defensive roster is so robust and overflowing with talent that Dansby couldn't help. DL Richard Seymour: He still has something to offer, can help anchor the inside and rush off the edge. And he knows what it's like to be in a winning locker room ... as well as an inept one. He won't come cheaply, which is why he hasn't signed yet, but teams continue to monitor him. While I think he could offer a boost to a Pittsburgh front seven in transition, the Steelers don't have the cap space to pull it off. But what about the Colts? They still could use some depth there, are trying to add more bite on defense and haven't been shy at all about spending this offseason. OLB Dwight Freeney: I'm not sure he's more than a situational pass rusher at this stage, but in small doses still might be able to approach double-digit sack totals, and that's always in demand. Another player whose price tag has been seen as too steep. But I still don't know that he doesn't make sense in Denver, a team that is obviously in Super Bowl or bust mode. DB Charles Woodson: He may not have much to offer, but he's a total pro, has seen both sides of the NFL evolution process (going from looking like a disinterested potential bust to one of the most respected veterans in the game) and long ago realized that there won't be big money for him. He could make sense for the Ravens. Baltimore just lost Ray Lewis and Ed Reed. Having drafted safety Matt Elam, who is talented but could have attitude issues, and with young starting corner Jimmy Smith a character concern in the past as well, a steady, reliable old head like Woodson in a locker room lacking leaders might not be the worst investment the Ravens could make. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/jason-la-canfora/22170446/from-abraham-to-woodson-where-nine-nfl-veteran-fas-make-most-sense Here's the link to the referenced article written by a CBSSports, not ESPN, writer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 actually (and I'm sure this will upset) I think the Bills will go the other way, trading some of our established players for draft picks in 2014 draft, Byrd, Stevie Johnson, and Kyle Williams are the most likely to be traded-so predictions Byrd to Green bay Stevie Johnson to Detroit Kyle Williams to Atlanta Aaron Williams and Duke Williams will be our starting safeties Woods, Rodgers, Goodwin, Gragg and Spiller will all be starters Manuel will be the starter after the 12th game after Kolb takes a beating and accumulates injuries and Jackson proves a JAG starting OLine- Glenn, Chris Scott, Wood, Urbik, Hairston 2014 draft Bills use accumulated draft picks to come out of the draft with jadeveon Clowney DE and Austin Seferian-Jenkins TE I would be in favor of trading KW mainly because he's getting older and he's already had some major injuries... But the other two...No thanks... Unless Bryd is just asking for the moon, and does not want to play here...Which I doubt... There is no way I would trade Stevie...Period... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Nothing Special as in Just A Guy thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 I'm fairly confident the Bills are done in free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 I think Dansby balked at the money, he might be back after discovering it's not there. Freeney is finding out the same thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 thank you. You're welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 I would be in favor of trading KW mainly because he's getting older and he's already had some major injuries... But the other two...No thanks... Unless Bryd is just asking for the moon, and does not want to play here...Which I doubt... There is no way I would trade Stevie...Period... Agreed. I'd be ok with trading Williams and his contract. The thought of trading Byrd makes me ill. He's a superstar. He's young. He creates turnovers. He wants to be a bill....but he wants to get PAID. Pay him, he deserves it. I hope we keep Stevie as well. I think he can really help these young kids develop. If woods and Rogers show signs of being our future 1 and 3 this season, with TJ and Goodwin as our 3 and 4, trade Stevie next year. But trading him before we know what we have in our rookies, would be a major gamble IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 actually (and I'm sure this will upset) I think the Bills will go the other way, trading some of our established players for draft picks in 2014 draft, Byrd, Stevie Johnson, and Kyle Williams are the most likely to be traded-so predictions Byrd to Green bay Stevie Johnson to Detroit Kyle Williams to Atlanta Aaron Williams and Duke Williams will be our starting safeties Woods, Rodgers, Goodwin, Gragg and Spiller will all be starters Manuel will be the starter after the 12th game after Kolb takes a beating and accumulates injuries and Jackson proves a JAG starting OLine- Glenn, Chris Scott, Wood, Urbik, Hairston 2014 draft Bills use accumulated draft picks to come out of the draft with jadeveon Clowney DE and Austin Seferian-Jenkins TE Ugh...I'm sorry, but as a team that's had such a dearth of talent for so long, why are we in such a hurry to trade good football players like Stevie, Kyle, and Byrd? Makes absolutely no sense...keep the good players, get more good players...rinse and repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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